I have a thread that says I have a Nomad Jukebox for trade, that I am interested in a solid-state MP3 player like a Nomad II MG...so a guy I just sold some stuff to ICQ's me and the following conversation takes place...sorry for the length, but I was a bit shocked at the end of it!
ANONYMOUS: hey man
NeoVrba: hey
NeoVrba: as you can tell, I don't use ICQ much!
ANONYMOUS: lol
ANONYMOUS: i added you to my BL like a month ago
ANONYMOUS: so
you interested in my MP3?
NeoVrba: is that you with the Lyra?
ANONYMOUS: i am VERY interested in our nomad
ANONYMOUS: ya thats me
ANONYMOUS: hey
wanna exchange Heat?
NeoVrba: sure...I suck at keeping up to date on that.....is yours ANONYMOUS?
ANONYMOUS: http://heatware.elitehardware.com/view.shtml?action=list&option=ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS: so
ANONYMOUS: can we trade mp3 players?
ANONYMOUS: lol
NeoVrba: what kind of accessories do you have for it?
ANONYMOUS: case
ANONYMOUS: fanny pack thing
ANONYMOUS: bel thing
ANONYMOUS: thing to put it on your arm for jogging
NeoVrba: can you add memory to it?
ANONYMOUS: thing for your leg for jogging
ANONYMOUS: you sure can!!!
ANONYMOUS: it takes CompactFlash
ANONYMOUS: so you can buy any size and pop it in
ANONYMOUS: and Voila!!!
NeoVrba: what was the date of our speaker deal?
ANONYMOUS: uhhhhh
ANONYMOUS: Nov 3rd
ANONYMOUS: i love these speakers!!!
NeoVrba: aren't they nice?
ANONYMOUS: theyre in PERFECT condition cept a minor scuff on one of the satellite's speaker grills
NeoVrba: what kind of soundcard do you have?
ANONYMOUS: x-gamer
NeoVrba: that may have been my packing
NeoVrba: sorry about that
ANONYMOUS: gettin an audigy plat
NeoVrba: I have an audigy here...they are nice
ANONYMOUS: ya
ANONYMOUS: so
ANONYMOUS: is your nomad the 6 gig?
ANONYMOUS: blue?
NeoVrba: it is the 6GB...it is silver with blue around the screen and buttons
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: whats it come with?
NeoVrba: AC adapter, small leather case, headphones, retail box, and two sets of batteries...to tell you the truth though, Creative's NiMH batteries suck, and the charger on the jukebox isn't the best....I was going to get one of those Rayovac one hour chargers and some Rayovac NiMH batteries to replace these...
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: doesnt matter to me
ANONYMOUS: does it have a CAR thing?
ANONYMOUS: and a HOME thing?
NeoVrba: it has been flashed to the latest firmware as well, so you can use it to transfer any type of files you want
NeoVrba: what is a home thing? I do not have a car adapter for it
ANONYMOUS: k
AC adapter
ANONYMOUS: ok
NeoVrba: yes, it has an AC plug
ANONYMOUS: so you wanna trade?
ANONYMOUS: this thing is sooo nice
ANONYMOUS: i jus wanna have ALL my mp3s with me
ANONYMOUS: not just 35 or 40
NeoVrba: can you send me a link to the lyra? How old is it? What is the largest Compact Flash card that I can put in it?
ANONYMOUS: you can put microdrives in it i think
ANONYMOUS: which go up to like 5 gigs
ANONYMOUS: but i think CF goes to 512mb
ANONYMOUS: heres the player: http://www.rca.com/product/viewdetail/0,2588,PI738,00.html?
its gone down about $100 tho
ANONYMOUS: i got it at the begening of the summer
ANONYMOUS: does that link work?
ANONYMOUS: http://www.rca.com/Search/RCASearch...IMEDIA_IB&instruct=RCA_VIDEO_IB&keywords=lyra
ANONYMOUS: RD2204
ANONYMOUS: you there?
NeoVrba: sorry
ANONYMOUS: ya
hey
ANONYMOUS: lol
ANONYMOUS: you gone again?
NeoVrba: link didn't work...sorry for the delays..I have company in the background!
ANONYMOUS: oh
lol
ANONYMOUS: how bout the second link?
ANONYMOUS: http://www.rca.com/Search/RCASearch...IMEDIA_IB&instruct=RCA_VIDEO_IB&keywords=lyra
ANONYMOUS: its RD2204
NeoVrba: trying again
NeoVrba: does yours have the car kit?
ANONYMOUS: www.rca.com
ANONYMOUS: search for rd2204
ANONYMOUS: ya
ANONYMOUS: it does
ANONYMOUS: but if yours does too...
ANONYMOUS: we can jus save shipping
NeoVrba: mine does not have a card adapter...how does that work anyway?
ANONYMOUS: you plug the thing into your headphone jack and put the other end in a car tape player
ANONYMOUS: and play the "tape"
ANONYMOUS: pretty nifyt
ANONYMOUS: nifty
NeoVrba: ahh...I am getting a new car tomorrow, I don't think it has a tape deck though...but I would want that too anyway...
ANONYMOUS: ok
ANONYMOUS: sweet
ANONYMOUS: you want the retail box?
ANONYMOUS: its really big
NeoVrba: what kind of cost difference are we talking about here?
ANONYMOUS: mine was 299 new
ANONYMOUS: yours?
ANONYMOUS: got mine at best buy
ANONYMOUS: and i bought the accessory kit for 39.99
NeoVrba: 299 for a 64mb MP3 player? Did you get it when they first came out? Let me check the pricewatch's on these things...
ANONYMOUS: i got it april 27th
ANONYMOUS: it was top-of-the-line
NeoVrba: does it work with Windows 2000? That would be a major problem if it didn't ...
ANONYMOUS: ya im runnin win2k now
ANONYMOUS: win 2000 advanced server
ANONYMOUS: ive had it running in EVERY Os ive tried
NeoVrba: well, what are we looking at for a trade then?
ANONYMOUS: my stuff for your stuff?
ANONYMOUS: i dunno
ANONYMOUS: but i am sooo excited that this may go through
ANONYMOUS: and ya, i understand batt. life sucks on these
ANONYMOUS: but mine lasts more that 15hours
ANONYMOUS: 🙂
ANONYMOUS: thats the longest ive had it goin non-stop
ANONYMOUS: cuz it has auto-shutoff and i fell asleep
ANONYMOUS: how much was yours new?
ANONYMOUS: how old is it?
ANONYMOUS: what condition?
ANONYMOUS: 🙁
ANONYMOUS: come back, friend
ANONYMOUS: yay 🙂
NeoVrba: hello
ANONYMOUS: how much was yours new?
NeoVrba: it was 350 brand new...I got it in February...really haven't used it that much..
ANONYMOUS: me either
lol
NeoVrba: great shape
ANONYMOUS: ill even include some songs!!!
ANONYMOUS: so this sounds about fare doesnt it?
ANONYMOUS: or am i still a lil bit lower?
NeoVrba: I have 11GB, don't need any songs!
ANONYMOUS: k
lol
NeoVrba: not to be a dick or anything, but I think mine is worth a bit more
ANONYMOUS: what would you like for me to include?
ANONYMOUS: $$$?
ANONYMOUS: trade items?
ANONYMOUS: a playstation?
ANONYMOUS: lol
NeoVrba: how much is compactflash memory?
NeoVrba: no PS for me!
ANONYMOUS: depends how many MBs you want
ANONYMOUS: ...
ANONYMOUS: or i have a n64
ANONYMOUS: or
NeoVrba: Xbox? jk
NeoVrba: I see 128 mb compact flash for sale for 43 on the forums....of course it isn't currently available!
ANONYMOUS: hey man...
what would you like in addition to my mp3 player?
ANONYMOUS: lol... your gone again
NeoVrba: nope, still here!
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: so
what you want?
NeoVrba: make me an offer!
ANONYMOUS: kt7 raid?
ANONYMOUS: some paypal?
NeoVrba: I am leaning towards paypal at this point
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: how much?
NeoVrba: ?
ANONYMOUS: your the 1 that thinks its uneven 🙂
ANONYMOUS: how much uneven is it?
ANONYMOUS: jus say an amount and well go from there
NeoVrba: well, I'm thinking that a new jukebox is around 200+, and a new Lyra 64mb is around 150, so that leaves a $50 difference...
ANONYMOUS: you seen the RCA site... its 199
ANONYMOUS: and i have the accessory pack
ANONYMOUS: 🙁
ANONYMOUS: i payed 300 for the player and 40 for the accessory pack thing
NeoVrba: how about $25 then?
ANONYMOUS: 20?
ANONYMOUS: thats what i have in paypal
NeoVrba: I can live with that....
ANONYMOUS: alright... 🙂
whats your paypal addy?
NeoVrba: @#$#$@hotmail.com
NeoVrba: how quickly they forget....=>
ANONYMOUS: who?
huh?
NeoVrba: wait, does this have a USB connection or Serial?
ANONYMOUS: you got PAYPAL 🙂
ANONYMOUS: weee
NeoVrba: does it use a serial connection?
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ANONYMOUS: either serial OR parallel
NeoVrba: no USB???
ANONYMOUS: oops
ANONYMOUS: parallel OR USB
ANONYMOUS: my bad
ANONYMOUS: can you ship first?
ANONYMOUS: since i pay-paled first for the klipsch
NeoVrba: wait a sec.....I don't even have my parallel or serial ports enabled
ANONYMOUS: lol
k
NeoVrba: I am going to have to pass on the Lyra...
ANONYMOUS: WHAT?
ANONYMOUS: why???
NeoVrba: no USB!
ANONYMOUS: its USB OR parallel
NeoVrba: I thought you said it is serial or parallel!
ANONYMOUS: then i said "my bad"
ANONYMOUS: USB oR parallel
ANONYMOUS: NOT serial
ANONYMOUS: there is NO serial
ANONYMOUS: USB or parallel
NeoVrba: model 2204 right?
ANONYMOUS: ya
ANONYMOUS: it just uses a compact flash reader
ANONYMOUS: simplicity
NeoVrba: wait a sec, the RCA site doesn't mention USB
ANONYMOUS: i have a parallel and a USB
ANONYMOUS: it came w/ a parallel
ANONYMOUS: but i bought a USB
ANONYMOUS: cuz parallel sucks
ANONYMOUS: i said that earlier
ANONYMOUS: and i asked which one you wanted
ANONYMOUS: you jus asked if it was parallel or usb
NeoVrba: so the software to load songs onto the player uses the USB?
ANONYMOUS: the software is Real Jukebox
ANONYMOUS: it uses whatever you want it to
NeoVrba: oops, I had typed that before you answered it....
ANONYMOUS: lol
ANONYMOUS: so you want USB?
ANONYMOUS: why isnt parallel stuff enabled?
ANONYMOUS: eeeeeeeek
ANONYMOUS: communicate d00d
NeoVrba: sorry, had to put a movie in for these people...you think putting in a DVD wouldn't be that hard!!
ANONYMOUS: lol
ANONYMOUS: so
ANONYMOUS: you want USB or parallel?
NeoVrba: it would have to be USB...
some dude just offered me an Ijam player, a 30GB hard drive, an 800mhz PIII, and two celeron 466's for the Jukebox and a DVD!
ANONYMOUS: d00d
ANONYMOUS: ok
ANONYMOUS: so are we cross shipping?
ANONYMOUS: john...
ANONYMOUS: you there, man?
NeoVrba: I can't do it...I just don't like the Lyra enough.....sorry
ANONYMOUS: WTF?
ANONYMOUS: ive already paypaled you
ANONYMOUS: and i have it all packaged up
ANONYMOUS: weve agreed on a trade
ANONYMOUS: mog
please
ANONYMOUS: OMG d00d
ANONYMOUS: you had me all happy
ANONYMOUS: ive wanted one of these since they came out
ANONYMOUS: but i couldnt afford one
ANONYMOUS: JOHN
ANONYMOUS: its in a freakin box taped up with your freakin address on it
ANONYMOUS: ive paypaled
ANONYMOUS: PLEASE
NeoVrba: its not like I would keep your paypal!
ANONYMOUS: well
ANONYMOUS: i am losing $$$
ANONYMOUS: and a dream
NeoVrba: a dream?
ANONYMOUS: i seriously had a smile from ear to ear
ANONYMOUS: i have always wanted one of these
ANONYMOUS: you gave me a chance
ANONYMOUS: in my euphoria i gto it all together and packaged it up
ANONYMOUS: even put your address on it
ANONYMOUS: then you cam and say NO NO NO
ANONYMOUS: c'mon
ANONYMOUS: please?
NeoVrba: I would be more willing to outright sell it than I would be for the Lyra...the more I read about it, the more I don't like it!
ANONYMOUS: thats the thing
ANONYMOUS: i am not at all a rich guy
ANONYMOUS: i got the lyra for a present when my dad got a raise
ANONYMOUS: what dont you like about it?
ANONYMOUS: its an awesome MP3 player
NeoVrba: 64mb and some rather poor reviews
ANONYMOUS: backlit, built in equilizer, preset DSPs
ANONYMOUS: poor reviews?
ANONYMOUS: what were thier cons?
ANONYMOUS: ive seen maybe 2 positive reviews on the nomad
ANONYMOUS: because of the battery lify
ANONYMOUS: life*
NeoVrba: I said up front that Creative's batteries aren't very good
ANONYMOUS: ya
ANONYMOUS: seriously tho
ANONYMOUS: what are the cons of the 'poor reviews'
NeoVrba: power-off too quickly after pause, no lock on the buttons, Real Jukebox software..fragile screen
ANONYMOUS: fragile screen?
HA
ANONYMOUS: takes less than 2 seconds to turn it on
ANONYMOUS: real jukebox is the simplist app ive seen for MP3s
ANONYMOUS: jus drag n drop and click transfer
NeoVrba: tell you what.....ship it to me, and if I like it, I'll ship the jukebox to you....Playcenter is drag and drop too
ANONYMOUS: what?
ANONYMOUS: what if you break it?
ANONYMOUS: 🙁
NeoVrba: then of course I would be liable for replacing it if I break it
ANONYMOUS: i cant go that long without an mp3 player
NeoVrba: I would know within a day if I wanted to keep it or not...
ANONYMOUS: can we jus cross ship?
NeoVrba: I don't want to cross ship if I'm not sure I want to do the deal
ANONYMOUS: uh
ANONYMOUS: ergh
ANONYMOUS: 🙁
ANONYMOUS: maaaaaaan
ANONYMOUS: ok
heres the deal
ANONYMOUS: we cross ship
ANONYMOUS: if you dont like.. ill ship back
ANONYMOUS: if i dont like... you ship back
ANONYMOUS: K?
NeoVrba: I'm not cross shipping on a deal I am not sure I want to do, sorry
ANONYMOUS: if you are not sure you want to do, then why did we already agree on a deal???
NeoVrba: I kept reading about it as we were talking, I said sorry!
ANONYMOUS: jesus
ANONYMOUS: please d00d
ANONYMOUS: what dont you like about it?
NeoVrba: the fact that I have some concerns about it from reading several reviews!
ANONYMOUS: what kind of concerns?
NeoVrba: didn't we just go through this?
ANONYMOUS: but
those are nothings
NeoVrba: I'm not shipping it without testing the Lyra, sorry...
ANONYMOUS: ok
ANONYMOUS: ill ship out tomorrow
ANONYMOUS: if you dont like it
ANONYMOUS: am i just out $$$?
NeoVrba: what do you mean about out the $$$$?
ANONYMOUS: for shipping and paypal charges
NeoVrba: you can recall paypal, I haven't even logged in yet...
ANONYMOUS: what about shipping?
ANONYMOUS: IMHO this is the BEST mp3 player ive ever seen
ANONYMOUS: and ive reviewed A LOT
ANONYMOUS: i work for soundcardcentral.com
ANONYMOUS: thats why i told my dad i wanted this 1
NeoVrba: well, if I ship back to you I'll be paying for shipping too....the Nomad II MG is the best as far as I can tell
what do you do for soundcardcentral ?
ANONYMOUS: review
NeoVrba: Gear of the year two years straight from Maximum PC
ANONYMOUS: ok...
ANONYMOUS: d00d
look at all the cons for the jukebox
ANONYMOUS: Batteries are awful. Manual is awful.
ANONYMOUS: bugs, bugs, and more bugs
ANONYMOUS: Short battery life, poor design
ANONYMOUS: battery life, volume, PRICE
ANONYMOUS: Short battery life. Not able to record to mp3 or re-encode mp3s.
ANONYMOUS: Expensive, Big, Heavy
ANONYMOUS: slow boot up, invonvienent and hard to control menus.
ANONYMOUS: Price, no fast forward or rewind, not as customizable as thought to be
ANONYMOUS: Crashes, Can't Record MP3s, Buggy
ANONYMOUS: Line in recording is horrible!
ANONYMOUS: Noisy recording, awkward interface, BAD battery life.
NeoVrba: lets not get carried away here, battery life and slow boot are the only cons...the menus are very easy to navigate..line in recording is fine with a powered mic...
ANONYMOUS: ok...
NeoVrba: this has never crashed on me either
ANONYMOUS: and as far as cons of mine
ANONYMOUS: completely biased and opinionated
ANONYMOUS: cept fragile screen
NeoVrba: look, I'm not going back and forth on this...the biggest difference is that yours holds about 8 or 9 songs, and mine holds 1000
ANONYMOUS: which its never broken on me
ANONYMOUS: i have 37 on it now
NeoVrba: with 64mb on it? how?
ANONYMOUS: mine is portable
ANONYMOUS: yours isnt
ANONYMOUS: mines little
ANONYMOUS: yours isnt
NeoVrba: mine is fully portable, just not good for a jog...this fits in my courory pockets too
NeoVrba: pants pocket that is...not jeans though
ANONYMOUS: fine
ANONYMOUS: how do i cancel paypal?
ANONYMOUS: its not even showing up that i sent it
NeoVrba: look at the history of your transactions, there should be some sort of recall payment button since I haven't even gone into paypal yet..I don't think you sent it to the right email anyway, I didn't get a hotmail message.
ANONYMOUS: i must not have sent it then
ANONYMOUS: good
ANONYMOUS: have you given me hotmail?
ANONYMOUS: i mean
heatware
NeoVrba: for the Klipsch, yes
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: i might leave some for this
ANONYMOUS: you wasted several hours of my precious time
ANONYMOUS: not sure that negative would look very nice
NeoVrba: why would you leave some for this, I backed out about two minutes after we had tentatively agreed on a deal.....I would be happy to post the entire log of our conversation on AT and ask for their opinions...
NeoVrba: you know, I just read this thing again, and I never said "we have a deal" anyway...I said I could live with the $20, and the next thing I said was "Wait, does this have a USB connection or serial?"....
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ANONYMOUS: hey man
NeoVrba: hey
NeoVrba: as you can tell, I don't use ICQ much!
ANONYMOUS: lol
ANONYMOUS: i added you to my BL like a month ago
ANONYMOUS: so
you interested in my MP3?
NeoVrba: is that you with the Lyra?
ANONYMOUS: i am VERY interested in our nomad
ANONYMOUS: ya thats me
ANONYMOUS: hey
wanna exchange Heat?
NeoVrba: sure...I suck at keeping up to date on that.....is yours ANONYMOUS?
ANONYMOUS: http://heatware.elitehardware.com/view.shtml?action=list&option=ANONYMOUS
ANONYMOUS: so
ANONYMOUS: can we trade mp3 players?
ANONYMOUS: lol
NeoVrba: what kind of accessories do you have for it?
ANONYMOUS: case
ANONYMOUS: fanny pack thing
ANONYMOUS: bel thing
ANONYMOUS: thing to put it on your arm for jogging
NeoVrba: can you add memory to it?
ANONYMOUS: thing for your leg for jogging
ANONYMOUS: you sure can!!!
ANONYMOUS: it takes CompactFlash
ANONYMOUS: so you can buy any size and pop it in
ANONYMOUS: and Voila!!!
NeoVrba: what was the date of our speaker deal?
ANONYMOUS: uhhhhh
ANONYMOUS: Nov 3rd
ANONYMOUS: i love these speakers!!!
NeoVrba: aren't they nice?
ANONYMOUS: theyre in PERFECT condition cept a minor scuff on one of the satellite's speaker grills
NeoVrba: what kind of soundcard do you have?
ANONYMOUS: x-gamer
NeoVrba: that may have been my packing
NeoVrba: sorry about that
ANONYMOUS: gettin an audigy plat
NeoVrba: I have an audigy here...they are nice
ANONYMOUS: ya
ANONYMOUS: so
ANONYMOUS: is your nomad the 6 gig?
ANONYMOUS: blue?
NeoVrba: it is the 6GB...it is silver with blue around the screen and buttons
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: whats it come with?
NeoVrba: AC adapter, small leather case, headphones, retail box, and two sets of batteries...to tell you the truth though, Creative's NiMH batteries suck, and the charger on the jukebox isn't the best....I was going to get one of those Rayovac one hour chargers and some Rayovac NiMH batteries to replace these...
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: doesnt matter to me
ANONYMOUS: does it have a CAR thing?
ANONYMOUS: and a HOME thing?
NeoVrba: it has been flashed to the latest firmware as well, so you can use it to transfer any type of files you want
NeoVrba: what is a home thing? I do not have a car adapter for it
ANONYMOUS: k
AC adapter
ANONYMOUS: ok
NeoVrba: yes, it has an AC plug
ANONYMOUS: so you wanna trade?
ANONYMOUS: this thing is sooo nice
ANONYMOUS: i jus wanna have ALL my mp3s with me
ANONYMOUS: not just 35 or 40
NeoVrba: can you send me a link to the lyra? How old is it? What is the largest Compact Flash card that I can put in it?
ANONYMOUS: you can put microdrives in it i think
ANONYMOUS: which go up to like 5 gigs
ANONYMOUS: but i think CF goes to 512mb
ANONYMOUS: heres the player: http://www.rca.com/product/viewdetail/0,2588,PI738,00.html?
its gone down about $100 tho
ANONYMOUS: i got it at the begening of the summer
ANONYMOUS: does that link work?
ANONYMOUS: http://www.rca.com/Search/RCASearch...IMEDIA_IB&instruct=RCA_VIDEO_IB&keywords=lyra
ANONYMOUS: RD2204
ANONYMOUS: you there?
NeoVrba: sorry
ANONYMOUS: ya
hey
ANONYMOUS: lol
ANONYMOUS: you gone again?
NeoVrba: link didn't work...sorry for the delays..I have company in the background!
ANONYMOUS: oh
lol
ANONYMOUS: how bout the second link?
ANONYMOUS: http://www.rca.com/Search/RCASearch...IMEDIA_IB&instruct=RCA_VIDEO_IB&keywords=lyra
ANONYMOUS: its RD2204
NeoVrba: trying again
NeoVrba: does yours have the car kit?
ANONYMOUS: www.rca.com
ANONYMOUS: search for rd2204
ANONYMOUS: ya
ANONYMOUS: it does
ANONYMOUS: but if yours does too...
ANONYMOUS: we can jus save shipping
NeoVrba: mine does not have a card adapter...how does that work anyway?
ANONYMOUS: you plug the thing into your headphone jack and put the other end in a car tape player
ANONYMOUS: and play the "tape"
ANONYMOUS: pretty nifyt
ANONYMOUS: nifty
NeoVrba: ahh...I am getting a new car tomorrow, I don't think it has a tape deck though...but I would want that too anyway...
ANONYMOUS: ok
ANONYMOUS: sweet
ANONYMOUS: you want the retail box?
ANONYMOUS: its really big
NeoVrba: what kind of cost difference are we talking about here?
ANONYMOUS: mine was 299 new
ANONYMOUS: yours?
ANONYMOUS: got mine at best buy
ANONYMOUS: and i bought the accessory kit for 39.99
NeoVrba: 299 for a 64mb MP3 player? Did you get it when they first came out? Let me check the pricewatch's on these things...
ANONYMOUS: i got it april 27th
ANONYMOUS: it was top-of-the-line
NeoVrba: does it work with Windows 2000? That would be a major problem if it didn't ...
ANONYMOUS: ya im runnin win2k now
ANONYMOUS: win 2000 advanced server
ANONYMOUS: ive had it running in EVERY Os ive tried
NeoVrba: well, what are we looking at for a trade then?
ANONYMOUS: my stuff for your stuff?
ANONYMOUS: i dunno
ANONYMOUS: but i am sooo excited that this may go through
ANONYMOUS: and ya, i understand batt. life sucks on these
ANONYMOUS: but mine lasts more that 15hours
ANONYMOUS: 🙂
ANONYMOUS: thats the longest ive had it goin non-stop
ANONYMOUS: cuz it has auto-shutoff and i fell asleep
ANONYMOUS: how much was yours new?
ANONYMOUS: how old is it?
ANONYMOUS: what condition?
ANONYMOUS: 🙁
ANONYMOUS: come back, friend
ANONYMOUS: yay 🙂
NeoVrba: hello
ANONYMOUS: how much was yours new?
NeoVrba: it was 350 brand new...I got it in February...really haven't used it that much..
ANONYMOUS: me either
lol
NeoVrba: great shape
ANONYMOUS: ill even include some songs!!!
ANONYMOUS: so this sounds about fare doesnt it?
ANONYMOUS: or am i still a lil bit lower?
NeoVrba: I have 11GB, don't need any songs!
ANONYMOUS: k
lol
NeoVrba: not to be a dick or anything, but I think mine is worth a bit more
ANONYMOUS: what would you like for me to include?
ANONYMOUS: $$$?
ANONYMOUS: trade items?
ANONYMOUS: a playstation?
ANONYMOUS: lol
NeoVrba: how much is compactflash memory?
NeoVrba: no PS for me!
ANONYMOUS: depends how many MBs you want
ANONYMOUS: ...
ANONYMOUS: or i have a n64
ANONYMOUS: or
NeoVrba: Xbox? jk
NeoVrba: I see 128 mb compact flash for sale for 43 on the forums....of course it isn't currently available!
ANONYMOUS: hey man...
what would you like in addition to my mp3 player?
ANONYMOUS: lol... your gone again
NeoVrba: nope, still here!
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: so
what you want?
NeoVrba: make me an offer!
ANONYMOUS: kt7 raid?
ANONYMOUS: some paypal?
NeoVrba: I am leaning towards paypal at this point
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: how much?
NeoVrba: ?
ANONYMOUS: your the 1 that thinks its uneven 🙂
ANONYMOUS: how much uneven is it?
ANONYMOUS: jus say an amount and well go from there
NeoVrba: well, I'm thinking that a new jukebox is around 200+, and a new Lyra 64mb is around 150, so that leaves a $50 difference...
ANONYMOUS: you seen the RCA site... its 199
ANONYMOUS: and i have the accessory pack
ANONYMOUS: 🙁
ANONYMOUS: i payed 300 for the player and 40 for the accessory pack thing
NeoVrba: how about $25 then?
ANONYMOUS: 20?
ANONYMOUS: thats what i have in paypal
NeoVrba: I can live with that....
ANONYMOUS: alright... 🙂
whats your paypal addy?
NeoVrba: @#$#$@hotmail.com
NeoVrba: how quickly they forget....=>
ANONYMOUS: who?
huh?
NeoVrba: wait, does this have a USB connection or Serial?
ANONYMOUS: you got PAYPAL 🙂
ANONYMOUS: weee
NeoVrba: does it use a serial connection?
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ANONYMOUS: either serial OR parallel
NeoVrba: no USB???
ANONYMOUS: oops
ANONYMOUS: parallel OR USB
ANONYMOUS: my bad
ANONYMOUS: can you ship first?
ANONYMOUS: since i pay-paled first for the klipsch
NeoVrba: wait a sec.....I don't even have my parallel or serial ports enabled
ANONYMOUS: lol
k
NeoVrba: I am going to have to pass on the Lyra...
ANONYMOUS: WHAT?
ANONYMOUS: why???
NeoVrba: no USB!
ANONYMOUS: its USB OR parallel
NeoVrba: I thought you said it is serial or parallel!
ANONYMOUS: then i said "my bad"
ANONYMOUS: USB oR parallel
ANONYMOUS: NOT serial
ANONYMOUS: there is NO serial
ANONYMOUS: USB or parallel
NeoVrba: model 2204 right?
ANONYMOUS: ya
ANONYMOUS: it just uses a compact flash reader
ANONYMOUS: simplicity
NeoVrba: wait a sec, the RCA site doesn't mention USB
ANONYMOUS: i have a parallel and a USB
ANONYMOUS: it came w/ a parallel
ANONYMOUS: but i bought a USB
ANONYMOUS: cuz parallel sucks
ANONYMOUS: i said that earlier
ANONYMOUS: and i asked which one you wanted
ANONYMOUS: you jus asked if it was parallel or usb
NeoVrba: so the software to load songs onto the player uses the USB?
ANONYMOUS: the software is Real Jukebox
ANONYMOUS: it uses whatever you want it to
NeoVrba: oops, I had typed that before you answered it....
ANONYMOUS: lol
ANONYMOUS: so you want USB?
ANONYMOUS: why isnt parallel stuff enabled?
ANONYMOUS: eeeeeeeek
ANONYMOUS: communicate d00d
NeoVrba: sorry, had to put a movie in for these people...you think putting in a DVD wouldn't be that hard!!
ANONYMOUS: lol
ANONYMOUS: so
ANONYMOUS: you want USB or parallel?
NeoVrba: it would have to be USB...
some dude just offered me an Ijam player, a 30GB hard drive, an 800mhz PIII, and two celeron 466's for the Jukebox and a DVD!
ANONYMOUS: d00d
ANONYMOUS: ok
ANONYMOUS: so are we cross shipping?
ANONYMOUS: john...
ANONYMOUS: you there, man?
NeoVrba: I can't do it...I just don't like the Lyra enough.....sorry
ANONYMOUS: WTF?
ANONYMOUS: ive already paypaled you
ANONYMOUS: and i have it all packaged up
ANONYMOUS: weve agreed on a trade
ANONYMOUS: mog
please
ANONYMOUS: OMG d00d
ANONYMOUS: you had me all happy
ANONYMOUS: ive wanted one of these since they came out
ANONYMOUS: but i couldnt afford one
ANONYMOUS: JOHN
ANONYMOUS: its in a freakin box taped up with your freakin address on it
ANONYMOUS: ive paypaled
ANONYMOUS: PLEASE
NeoVrba: its not like I would keep your paypal!
ANONYMOUS: well
ANONYMOUS: i am losing $$$
ANONYMOUS: and a dream
NeoVrba: a dream?
ANONYMOUS: i seriously had a smile from ear to ear
ANONYMOUS: i have always wanted one of these
ANONYMOUS: you gave me a chance
ANONYMOUS: in my euphoria i gto it all together and packaged it up
ANONYMOUS: even put your address on it
ANONYMOUS: then you cam and say NO NO NO
ANONYMOUS: c'mon
ANONYMOUS: please?
NeoVrba: I would be more willing to outright sell it than I would be for the Lyra...the more I read about it, the more I don't like it!
ANONYMOUS: thats the thing
ANONYMOUS: i am not at all a rich guy
ANONYMOUS: i got the lyra for a present when my dad got a raise
ANONYMOUS: what dont you like about it?
ANONYMOUS: its an awesome MP3 player
NeoVrba: 64mb and some rather poor reviews
ANONYMOUS: backlit, built in equilizer, preset DSPs
ANONYMOUS: poor reviews?
ANONYMOUS: what were thier cons?
ANONYMOUS: ive seen maybe 2 positive reviews on the nomad
ANONYMOUS: because of the battery lify
ANONYMOUS: life*
NeoVrba: I said up front that Creative's batteries aren't very good
ANONYMOUS: ya
ANONYMOUS: seriously tho
ANONYMOUS: what are the cons of the 'poor reviews'
NeoVrba: power-off too quickly after pause, no lock on the buttons, Real Jukebox software..fragile screen
ANONYMOUS: fragile screen?
HA
ANONYMOUS: takes less than 2 seconds to turn it on
ANONYMOUS: real jukebox is the simplist app ive seen for MP3s
ANONYMOUS: jus drag n drop and click transfer
NeoVrba: tell you what.....ship it to me, and if I like it, I'll ship the jukebox to you....Playcenter is drag and drop too
ANONYMOUS: what?
ANONYMOUS: what if you break it?
ANONYMOUS: 🙁
NeoVrba: then of course I would be liable for replacing it if I break it
ANONYMOUS: i cant go that long without an mp3 player
NeoVrba: I would know within a day if I wanted to keep it or not...
ANONYMOUS: can we jus cross ship?
NeoVrba: I don't want to cross ship if I'm not sure I want to do the deal
ANONYMOUS: uh
ANONYMOUS: ergh
ANONYMOUS: 🙁
ANONYMOUS: maaaaaaan
ANONYMOUS: ok
heres the deal
ANONYMOUS: we cross ship
ANONYMOUS: if you dont like.. ill ship back
ANONYMOUS: if i dont like... you ship back
ANONYMOUS: K?
NeoVrba: I'm not cross shipping on a deal I am not sure I want to do, sorry
ANONYMOUS: if you are not sure you want to do, then why did we already agree on a deal???
NeoVrba: I kept reading about it as we were talking, I said sorry!
ANONYMOUS: jesus
ANONYMOUS: please d00d
ANONYMOUS: what dont you like about it?
NeoVrba: the fact that I have some concerns about it from reading several reviews!
ANONYMOUS: what kind of concerns?
NeoVrba: didn't we just go through this?
ANONYMOUS: but
those are nothings
NeoVrba: I'm not shipping it without testing the Lyra, sorry...
ANONYMOUS: ok
ANONYMOUS: ill ship out tomorrow
ANONYMOUS: if you dont like it
ANONYMOUS: am i just out $$$?
NeoVrba: what do you mean about out the $$$$?
ANONYMOUS: for shipping and paypal charges
NeoVrba: you can recall paypal, I haven't even logged in yet...
ANONYMOUS: what about shipping?
ANONYMOUS: IMHO this is the BEST mp3 player ive ever seen
ANONYMOUS: and ive reviewed A LOT
ANONYMOUS: i work for soundcardcentral.com
ANONYMOUS: thats why i told my dad i wanted this 1
NeoVrba: well, if I ship back to you I'll be paying for shipping too....the Nomad II MG is the best as far as I can tell
what do you do for soundcardcentral ?
ANONYMOUS: review
NeoVrba: Gear of the year two years straight from Maximum PC
ANONYMOUS: ok...
ANONYMOUS: d00d
look at all the cons for the jukebox
ANONYMOUS: Batteries are awful. Manual is awful.
ANONYMOUS: bugs, bugs, and more bugs
ANONYMOUS: Short battery life, poor design
ANONYMOUS: battery life, volume, PRICE
ANONYMOUS: Short battery life. Not able to record to mp3 or re-encode mp3s.
ANONYMOUS: Expensive, Big, Heavy
ANONYMOUS: slow boot up, invonvienent and hard to control menus.
ANONYMOUS: Price, no fast forward or rewind, not as customizable as thought to be
ANONYMOUS: Crashes, Can't Record MP3s, Buggy
ANONYMOUS: Line in recording is horrible!
ANONYMOUS: Noisy recording, awkward interface, BAD battery life.
NeoVrba: lets not get carried away here, battery life and slow boot are the only cons...the menus are very easy to navigate..line in recording is fine with a powered mic...
ANONYMOUS: ok...
NeoVrba: this has never crashed on me either
ANONYMOUS: and as far as cons of mine
ANONYMOUS: completely biased and opinionated
ANONYMOUS: cept fragile screen
NeoVrba: look, I'm not going back and forth on this...the biggest difference is that yours holds about 8 or 9 songs, and mine holds 1000
ANONYMOUS: which its never broken on me
ANONYMOUS: i have 37 on it now
NeoVrba: with 64mb on it? how?
ANONYMOUS: mine is portable
ANONYMOUS: yours isnt
ANONYMOUS: mines little
ANONYMOUS: yours isnt
NeoVrba: mine is fully portable, just not good for a jog...this fits in my courory pockets too
NeoVrba: pants pocket that is...not jeans though
ANONYMOUS: fine
ANONYMOUS: how do i cancel paypal?
ANONYMOUS: its not even showing up that i sent it
NeoVrba: look at the history of your transactions, there should be some sort of recall payment button since I haven't even gone into paypal yet..I don't think you sent it to the right email anyway, I didn't get a hotmail message.
ANONYMOUS: i must not have sent it then
ANONYMOUS: good
ANONYMOUS: have you given me hotmail?
ANONYMOUS: i mean
heatware
NeoVrba: for the Klipsch, yes
ANONYMOUS: k
ANONYMOUS: i might leave some for this
ANONYMOUS: you wasted several hours of my precious time
ANONYMOUS: not sure that negative would look very nice
NeoVrba: why would you leave some for this, I backed out about two minutes after we had tentatively agreed on a deal.....I would be happy to post the entire log of our conversation on AT and ask for their opinions...
NeoVrba: you know, I just read this thing again, and I never said "we have a deal" anyway...I said I could live with the $20, and the next thing I said was "Wait, does this have a USB connection or serial?"....
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