Please retire Nancy Grace

JJ650

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Wasn't she sued by the Duke Lacrosse players after she pretty much said, on live TV, they were rapist before the trial had even concluded??
But yes, she's a fucking loud mouthed moron and seldomly has all the information before she makes her opinions known on national television.
 

Josh

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Wasn't she sued by the Duke Lacrosse players after she pretty much said, on live TV, they were rapist before the trial had even concluded??
But yes, she's a fucking loud mouthed moron and seldomly has all the information before she makes her opinions known on national television.

She may have been...I know that she didn't show up to host her show the day after they were cleared im assuming because she was too embarassed that f'ing dolt.
 

waggy

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I used to watch nancy grace. Then the smart case came on and she went nuts. Then the lacrosse scandal (for witch she still hasn't apologized or admitted they are innocent).

she is a bitch. Why cnn wants a person who has poor knowledge of the law or does not care to be fair in court (she has a bad reputation on shannagians in court..).
 

shortylickens

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I used to watch nancy grace. Then the smart case came on and she went nuts. Then the lacrosse scandal (for witch she still hasn't apologized or admitted they are innocent).

she is a bitch. Why cnn wants a person who has poor knowledge of the law or does not care to be fair in court (she has a bad reputation on shannagians in court..).
Its because the media is not about informing, its about entertaining.
And a loudmouthed offensive personality is the most entertaining thing the modern American brain can handle these days.

The Boomers were right, see what happens when the MTV generation grows up? Now they're in charge!
 

mmntech

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I'm going to make my argument of why Nancy Grace should be taken off the air. A little background about me first. I have a degree in journalism, have worked in a 24-hour newsroom, and have worked in television. What Grace represents is the worst kind of yellow journalism. That is, raw sensationalism and scandal-mongering on relatively minor stories, often embellishing the facts with little or no research.

All journalism is biased, you can't get around that. The problem with her show is it's explicitly so. By keeping a her on, CNN and HLN are treading into dangerous waters. First of all, it diminishes the reputation of the network. It's ironic considering that CNN wants to differentiate itself from the tabloid-style FOX News. You can go on about Bill O'Reilly, but he's just a political commentator. He's just providing op-ed pieces for the network. Nancy Grace is being presented as an expert on law. Yet, she has shown time and time again a complete disregard for the legal process. At one point, she was being investigated for prosecutorial misconduct by attempting to draw comparisons to the accused and unrelated crimes. A legal no-no, and definitely a journalism no-no.

Grace has also gone on air and falsely accused people four times of very serious crimes. The most notorious being the 21-year-old Melinda Duckett case, where she grilled the girl on national TV over the disappearance of her two year old son. She was attacked for a lack of openness about the disappearance. Grace went on to implicitly accuse her of the murder. Duckett had not been named a suspect at the time. She committed suicide the next day. Grace refused to apologize, saying the suicide was as good as a confession. The family sued Grace and CNN, receiving $200,000 in a settlement last year. The funds will be donated to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

The second time, she accused the Duke Lacrosse Team of raping a black stripper, once again accusing them of lying on national television. All men were acquitted after it was proven that the plaintiff had made the story up. Grace never apologized.

Third, she accused Richard Ricci of kidnapping Elizabeth Smart, with very little evidence to support her claim. She then accused Ricci's girlfriend of covering up the crime. Ricci died in police custody. It was later proven that Ricci had no connection to the kidnapping whatsoever. During an interview with an uncomfortable Smart, Grace attempted to pry about the kidnapping, until Smart put her foot down.

Four, she accused Casey Anthony of murdering her child. Even going as far to implicitly suggest vigilante action be taken should Anthony be found not guilty. It stirred up such a storm that Anthony has gone into hiding. Worse still, a vigilante attempted to murder another women, mistaking her for the alleged child killer.

Grace is lucky she was only sued once. In media law, slander and libel are not situations you want to be in. They're career ruiners. Nancy Grace is still acting as she's in a court room. Of course in court, the accused has the defence on their side. This is not so in the court of public opinion. CNN is diminishing their reputation for keeping her own. I also believe that journalists do have a form of civic duty. Grace is not presenting proper facts in these cases. She's trying to convict without having any evidence in front of her. As a result, it's tainting the jury pool. The news has a duty to present the facts of these cases in a manner that's as objective as possible. Let the public make their own conclusions. Their duty is not to act as judge, jury, and executioner.
 

flvinny521

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Wasn't she infamous for only taking "sure-thing" cases as an attorney so she could keep her perfect win-loss record in tact? I believe she passed on any case where she would be challenged.
 

Josh

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I'm going to make my argument of why Nancy Grace should be taken off the air. A little background about me first. I have a degree in journalism, have worked in a 24-hour newsroom, and have worked in television. What Grace represents is the worst kind of yellow journalism. That is, raw sensationalism and scandal-mongering on relatively minor stories, often embellishing the facts with little or no research.

All journalism is biased, you can't get around that. The problem with her show is it's explicitly so. By keeping a her on, CNN and HLN are treading into dangerous waters. First of all, it diminishes the reputation of the network. It's ironic considering that CNN wants to differentiate itself from the tabloid-style FOX News. You can go on about Bill O'Reilly, but he's just a political commentator. He's just providing op-ed pieces for the network. Nancy Grace is being presented as an expert on law. Yet, she has shown time and time again a complete disregard for the legal process. At one point, she was being investigated for prosecutorial misconduct by attempting to draw comparisons to the accused and unrelated crimes. A legal no-no, and definitely a journalism no-no.

Grace has also gone on air and falsely accused people four times of very serious crimes. The most notorious being the 21-year-old Melinda Duckett case, where she grilled the girl on national TV over the disappearance of her two year old son. She was attacked for a lack of openness about the disappearance. Grace went on to implicitly accuse her of the murder. Duckett had not been named a suspect at the time. She committed suicide the next day. Grace refused to apologize, saying the suicide was as good as a confession. The family sued Grace and CNN, receiving $200,000 in a settlement last year. The funds will be donated to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

The second time, she accused the Duke Lacrosse Team of raping a black stripper, once again accusing them of lying on national television. All men were acquitted after it was proven that the plaintiff had made the story up. Grace never apologized.

Third, she accused Richard Ricci of kidnapping Elizabeth Smart, with very little evidence to support her claim. She then accused Ricci's girlfriend of covering up the crime. Ricci died in police custody. It was later proven that Ricci had no connection to the kidnapping whatsoever. During an interview with an uncomfortable Smart, Grace attempted to pry about the kidnapping, until Smart put her foot down.

Four, she accused Casey Anthony of murdering her child. Even going as far to implicitly suggest vigilante action be taken should Anthony be found not guilty. It stirred up such a storm that Anthony has gone into hiding. Worse still, a vigilante attempted to murder another women, mistaking her for the alleged child killer.

Grace is lucky she was only sued once. In media law, slander and libel are not situations you want to be in. They're career ruiners. Nancy Grace is still acting as she's in a court room. Of course in court, the accused has the defence on their side. This is not so in the court of public opinion. CNN is diminishing their reputation for keeping her own. I also believe that journalists do have a form of civic duty. Grace is not presenting proper facts in these cases. She's trying to convict without having any evidence in front of her. As a result, it's tainting the jury pool. The news has a duty to present the facts of these cases in a manner that's as objective as possible. Let the public make their own conclusions. Their duty is not to act as judge, jury, and executioner.

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Well said.
 

kage69

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Nancy Grace is a horrible person and a megalomaniac.

All the bs and sleaze of Steve Doocy, but with the added hate and lack of morals a la Ann Coulter.

I guess CNN doesn't want Faux hoggin all the crazy.
 

vi edit

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Very few faces make me want to punch the TV...but every time her mug gets slapped up there and she starts babbling on I have to fight back the urge.

She's a horrible "journalist" and an even worse person.
 

SirStev0

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More and more we want our justice system to be the 24hour news networks.

Thought the Attorney for the Florida Chick said it pretty well when he ripped into media after she was found not guilty.

Nancy Grace is the absolute worst. She needs to be retired like we retire horses.