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LoStZ

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Hi, my system is rather outdated. However, I'm not a hardcore gamer. I plan on gaming just somewhat occasionally. My resolution is 1280x1024. I would like to be able to run games like COD4, RE5, and Starcraft 2 (when it comes out) for instance. I've been reading around and still contemplating between these cards:

ASUS EN9600GSO/DI/512MD3/V2 GeForce 9600 GSO 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

GIGABYTE GV-R467ZL-1GI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

XFX HD-477A-YDFC Radeon HD 4770 512MB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail


I'm planning on spending around $100 or less. These are just some I've narrowed down after reading many threads, I'm definitely open to any suggestions. Also, do you guys think prices would be coming down anytime before the end of this month and if I should wait 1-2 weeks? Thanks in advance.


system specs:

AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2500 MHz (12.5 x 200) 4800+
Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P
Corsair 4gb Dual Channel DDR2-800
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
NEC MultiSync 90GX2 [19" LCD]
Antec EA-650 power supply

 
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Lifer
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I'll bet that 9600 GSO works just fine. The 4770 would be better though at about twice the memory bandwidth.
 
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5750 is a very nice buy for only 129$. It's faster then both your cards you've listed above, it's a monster overclocking card as it has been observed over the web, it has dx 11 ( doesn't mean anything yet though ) and it uses very, very little power. Hard to beat this one.
 
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Originally posted by: error8
5750 is a very nice buy for only 129$. It's faster then both your cards you've listed above, it's a monster overclocking card as it has been observed over the web, it has dx 11 ( doesn't mean anything yet though ) and it uses very, very little power. Hard to beat this one.
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Does that one have Smart Doctor/Voltage tweak like the ASUS HD5770?
 
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But seeing as I'm gonna be running at a low resolution, would that card be somewhat overkill? And considering my CPU is fairly outdated, wouldn't my system be bottlenecked and not notice that much difference? As I was reading a similar thread, I think someone mentioned this which is why I'm asking.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2337355&enterthread=y
 
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those are two wildly different price ranges. lol. that 9600gso is 128bit with 1400mhz so thats even with the old 32sp 8600gt which would be a joke for memory bandwidth on a card with 96sp.

no reason to get a 4770 for 110 bucks when a faster 5750 512mb will be the same price.

I would just get a 4670 512mb for 60 bucks as that would be a massive jump over your 7600gs.
 
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It's rather obvious that your CPU will be a bottleneck. But I'm thinking that maybe you will overclock that CPU or maybe you're willing to change it some day. Thus, this particular card will serve you well, for a longer period of time.
 
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Originally posted by: Just learning
Originally posted by: error8
5750 is a very nice buy for only 129$. It's faster then both your cards you've listed above, it's a monster overclocking card as it has been observed over the web, it has dx 11 ( doesn't mean anything yet though ) and it uses very, very little power. Hard to beat this one.
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Does that one have Smart Doctor/Voltage tweak like the ASUS HD5770?
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I don't know, but even with the stock voltage, that card should still overclock like crazy. :)
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: error8
It's rather obvious that your CPU will be a bottleneck. But I'm thinking that maybe you will overclock that CPU or maybe you're willing to change it some day. Thus, this particular card will serve you well, for a longer period of time.
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well a 5750 1gb would be silly for that low res and I doubt he is going to oc that cpu anyway. a 5770 512mb is supposed to be $109 which is the same as the 4770 he is looking at. IMO a $60 4670 512mb make perfect sense bases on his system, res and price range.
 
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Originally posted by: toyota
those are two wildly different price ranges. lol. that 9600gso is 128bit with 1400mhz so thats even with the old 32sp 8600gt which would be a joke for memory bandwidth on a card with 96sp.

no reason to get a 4770 for 110 bucks when a faster 5750 512mb will be the same price.

I would just get a 4670 512mb for 60 bucks as that would be a massive jump over your 7600gs.
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Is there any difference between a 4670 and this 4650?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814102829
 
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Originally posted by: LoStZ
Originally posted by: toyota
those are two wildly different price ranges. lol. that 9600gso is 128bit with 1400mhz so thats even with the old 32sp 8600gt which would be a joke for memory bandwidth on a card with 96sp.

no reason to get a 4770 for 110 bucks when a faster 5750 512mb will be the same price.

I would just get a 4670 512mb for 60 bucks as that would be a massive jump over your 7600gs.
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Is there any difference between a 4670 and this 4650?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814102829
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4650 has ddr2 on 128 bit, which takes it out of the gaming world. That card is only for HTPCs and office systems, doesn't play games.
 
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Originally posted by: toyota
Originally posted by: error8
It's rather obvious that your CPU will be a bottleneck. But I'm thinking that maybe you will overclock that CPU or maybe you're willing to change it some day. Thus, this particular card will serve you well, for a longer period of time.
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well a 5750 1gb would be silly for that low res and I doubt he is going to oc that cpu anyway. a 5770 512mb is supposed to be $109 which is the same as the 4770 he is looking at. IMO a $60 4670 512mb make perfect sense bases on his system, res and price range.
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True. I was trying to maybe, give him a little more future proof solution. :) If he is willing to pay 109 $ for a 4770, why not spend 20$ more for something better!? A faster card, even bottlenecked by the CPU, will not harm the system in any way.
That 4800+ has the ability for reaching maybe 2.8-3 ghz. Depends if the mobo is up for it. So a 3ghz dual core+that 5750, at 1280X1024 could mean playing any game out there with 8XAA. Nothing to sneeze about. :)
 
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Originally posted by: LoStZ
Oh ok whew, thanks. I'm browsing the egg right now, which would you recommend from this list?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...scription=4670&x=0&y=0
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any of them should be fine. ASUS,MSI or Gigabyte might be easier to deal with if you ever need an RMA though.


if you get a card that is HDMI make sure your onboard audio is set to "on" in the bios if you want to keep using it. if it is set to "auto" then the HDMI will take over.
 
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Price search these cards: 9800GT (aka 8800GT), GTS250 (aka 9800GTX), HD4830, HD4770, HD4850, HD5750, . Whichever of these cards you can find cheapest, then go ahead and grab it. You should probably look around at other sites besides newegg.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: error8
Originally posted by: Just learning
Originally posted by: error8
5750 is a very nice buy for only 129$. It's faster then both your cards you've listed above, it's a monster overclocking card as it has been observed over the web, it has dx 11 ( doesn't mean anything yet though ) and it uses very, very little power. Hard to beat this one.
Click to expand...

Does that one have Smart Doctor/Voltage tweak like the ASUS HD5770?
Click to expand...

I don't know, but even with the stock voltage, that card should still overclock like crazy. :)
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I calculated that a 5750 needs a core frequency of 945Mhz to equal a stock 5770's processing power.

If the card comes with Voltage Tweak/Smart Doctor hitting that should be easy. (maybe on stock volts like you say). Apparently CCC doesn't allow more than 850 Mhz core for 5750 though.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: LoStZ
Is the 4670 the same as 9600GSO?
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Trouble with comparing 9600 GSO is that there are so many variations of 9600 GSO (some have 48 shaders.....while others have 96 shaders. Some 9600 GSOs have 128 bit buses....others have 192 bit buses. The VRAM is all over the place too. I have seen 384Mb, 512mb, 768mb and 1.5 gb listed for 9600 gso)

Originally posted by: LoStZ
Which would you guys recommend?
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Something with enough memory bandwidth.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: LoStZ
-=added 2 more cards to the list=-

Leaning towards the last one right now, what do you guys think?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814161287
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like I said earlier get a 4670 512mb. dont pay more money for slower memory. at your res and with card like a 4670 512mb is enough. the memory on 1gb is slightly slower than the 512mb models so if anything it would only hurt not help.

EDIT: that one has free shipping so the price would be about the same as 512mb models so either way doesnt hurt.
 
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Lifer
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LoStZ, dont even fool with paying that much more for the 4850 or 9800gt. you are coming from a 7600gs, playing at a low res and your cpu is mediocre so a 4670 or 9600gt is the highest I would fool with. the 4670 doesnt even need external power and the one cusideabelincoln linked too is a pretty good deal with free shipping. that 9600gt was also good that he linked to but will need external power and will cost you a little bit more up front since its rebate is bigger but only 5 bucks more in the end. I personally would go ahead with the 4670 he linked too.
 
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