Please help, upgraded harware, no starup now

bull2118

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So frustrating

I just replaced my CPU, GPU, MOBO and RAM with this


Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS8G3D1609DS1S00

PowerColor PCS+ AX7950 3GBD5-2DHPP Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Gigabyte LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gbps USB 3.0 Micro ATX DDR3 1600 Intel Motherboards GA-B85M-D3H

Intel Core i5-4430 Quad-Core Desktop Processor 3.0 GHz 6 MB Cache LGA 1150 - BX80646I54430

I think I plugged everything in but when I power on the Windows (windows 7) screen comes up, freezes for a second, then the windows startup repair program kicks on. It attempted to fix the problem, said it was successful, restarted, but now says it can't fix the problem. I'll write the error code below since I cant get an image to post?.

Problem Event Name: Startup repair offline
Problem signature 1: 6.1.7600.16385
Problem signature 2: 6.1.7600.16385
Problem signature 3: unknown
Problem signature 4: 21200912
Problem signature 5: AutoFailover
Problem signature 6: 4
Problem signature 7: BadPatch
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1

Thanks for any help. My technical skill is obviously low but anadtech forums has never failed me and I appreciate any time.
 

Ketchup

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Are you trying to do a fresh Windows install with the new hardware, or are you trying to load what you had on the drive with the new hardware?
 

bull2118

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I (dumbly) thought I could just plug the new stuff in and away I would go, just with higher performance. I have a bunch of stuff on the hard drive and I'd like to just boot up and continue where I left off with everything.

Did I understand the question?
 

Ketchup

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Depends what you are upgrading from. It is possible to upgrade your hardware on the same OS without needing a re-install, but it usually requires some prep-work, such as going into device manager and replacing your hardware entries into generic ones. If you still have the old hardware, and have the time, you may still be able to make this work.
 

bull2118

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Can I do a reinstall without wiping it out everything on the hard drive. I've got all my photos backed up so I guess it's not too horrible of I have to start over.

Thanks again for the response
 

denis280

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Bubaleone did come out with a command for ghost drivers. few month ago for this.
 

monkeydelmagico

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Can I do a reinstall without wiping it out everything on the hard drive. I've got all my photos backed up so I guess it's not too horrible of I have to start over.

Thanks again for the response

It's good you backed up because it's usually much easier to just do a clean install after replacing CPU, Mobo, GPU, etc.

Put your windows CD in, boot from CD in BIOS, format, and new install.
 

Nec_V20

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So frustrating

I just replaced my CPU, GPU, MOBO and RAM with this


Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS8G3D1609DS1S00

PowerColor PCS+ AX7950 3GBD5-2DHPP Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Gigabyte LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gbps USB 3.0 Micro ATX DDR3 1600 Intel Motherboards GA-B85M-D3H

Intel Core i5-4430 Quad-Core Desktop Processor 3.0 GHz 6 MB Cache LGA 1150 - BX80646I54430

I think I plugged everything in but when I power on the Windows (windows 7) screen comes up, freezes for a second, then the windows startup repair program kicks on. It attempted to fix the problem, said it was successful, restarted, but now says it can't fix the problem. I'll write the error code below since I cant get an image to post?.

Problem Event Name: Startup repair offline
Problem signature 1: 6.1.7600.16385
Problem signature 2: 6.1.7600.16385
Problem signature 3: unknown
Problem signature 4: 21200912
Problem signature 5: AutoFailover
Problem signature 6: 4
Problem signature 7: BadPatch
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1

Thanks for any help. My technical skill is obviously low but anadtech forums has never failed me and I appreciate any time.

The rule of thumb is, if you change the motherboard then you have to do a fresh installation.

There are so many motherboard components registered in the registry that windows just freaks out when a new motherboard is added to an existing installation.

Even if it does all seem to go well, it will come back to bite you.
 

Steltek

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The rule of thumb is, if you change the motherboard then you have to do a fresh installation.

There are so many motherboard components registered in the registry that windows just freaks out when a new motherboard is added to an existing installation.

Even if it does all seem to go well, it will come back to bite you.

Actually, Win7 is normally very tolerant of major hardware changes (more so than any MS OS before it). I've successfully moved back and forth from Intel and AMD across multiple motherboard chipset generations and CPU revisions with my old test box (before I retired it earlier this year) using the same Win7 install and never had a problem. The most important thing you can do to try to ensure success is to revert the drivers back to standard generic drivers before the upgrade. Storage controller drivers always tend to be the most problematic related to such a change with Windows. Worst case, you can always sysprep an image or use a product like Macrium Reflect or Acronis that has a bare metal restore option.

That being said, for any machines I maintain for regular use, I always do a clean install simply to get rid of the accumulated junk.
 

Virgorising

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The rule of thumb is, if you change the motherboard then you have to do a fresh installation.

There are so many motherboard components registered in the registry that windows just freaks out when a new motherboard is added to an existing installation.

Even if it does all seem to go well, it will come back to bite you.

I do luv "come back to bite you." :D Forget boy, you know yr stuff!

Maybe I got lucky, cause the one time I replaced a mobo for one of my systems, and the other two times I did it for friends, I did not get bitten. All systems in question were running XP. Not sure that was a factor.
 

Nec_V20

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Actually, Win7 is normally very tolerant of major hardware changes (more so than any MS OS before it). I've successfully moved back and forth from Intel and AMD across multiple motherboard chipset generations and CPU revisions with my old test box (before I retired it earlier this year) using the same Win7 install and never had a problem. The most important thing you can do to try to ensure success is to revert the drivers back to standard generic drivers before the upgrade. Storage controller drivers always tend to be the most problematic related to such a change with Windows. Worst case, you can always sysprep an image or use a product like Macrium Reflect or Acronis that has a bare metal restore option.

That being said, for any machines I maintain for regular use, I always do a clean install simply to get rid of the accumulated junk.

The thing is that you are more likely - in my experience - to get away with going from an AMD motherboard to an Intel based one. However if you were to move from say an ASUS Intel motherboard to a Gigabyte Intel motherboard within a generation then you will have problems.

No matter how much you uninstall from the previous motherboard there will be artefacts left in there which will cause all kinds of weird things. The favourite one which I have experienced having done this kind of thing in recent years for others is that the system will never shut down without a BSOD. No amount of registry cleaning has helped.

I have told the people this, but no, they want to keep their installation. So when I exchange the motherboard I tell them that I will be leaving them to their own devices (pardon the pun) and not to darken my doorstep with regard to any problems.

No matter what I have tried - and believe me I have tried everything - problems persist. Of course the worst ones are just BSOD on boot, where one sometimes cannot even reach the "Safe Mode" which I am perfectly happy about because I know then that I can convince the person to do the right thing and just hose the system and reinstall.

I have, to this day, never had a system which ran smoothly after changing the motherboard from one manufacturer to another within the same generation of homogeneous systems. If you look at the forum you will see a lot of posts about people having problems after changing their motherboard. It is just such a central item and the registry is just strewn with installation items very closely associated with the motherboard.

It is not "professional" to knock your pan out trying to get the system to work after doing a motherboard swap (AMD to AMD or Intel to Intel), it is an exercise in masochism.

There is a sure-fire way of doing the exchange or crossover, however that does involve a new installation anyway and I have only done this with regard to servers. This is called "hardware migration" and it is a major pain in the @ss. It is also something which I am most certainly NOT going to do for free.