Please help -- can ping internet but iExplore can't connect -- Installed Firefox!!!

[Muse]

Just installed WinXP on 3rd partition of boot drive. First 2 partitions, no problem connecting to internet, but opening iExplore using this new install, it can't connect. I can ping Google fine: ping google.com

Network connection diagnostics says the problem is probably with my firewall but it's just Windows XP's default firewall, which defaults to On, and that's never been a problem when I've installed Windows.

I have set up my network connection, my network is seen fine, I have mapped my network drives OK. I can ping my other computer and it can ping the problem install.

What might be wrong? I'd like to run Windows Update if nothing else. Conceivably I can compute without an internet connection, this is my HDTV box, but it seems crazy I can't run Internet Explorer. Thanks for help!

 

[Muse]

When I launch Internet Explorer, it says this in the URL:

http://www.microsoft.com/isapi/redir.dll?prd=ie&pver=6&ar=msnhome

But it doesn't hit the Internet

Whatever page I try to hit it says:

The page cannot be displayed

 

[daveybrat]

Well if it's Windows XP then the highest version of IE is version 8 and that barely works with any websites today. I'd recommend installing FireFox as it's the newest for XP browsers. (version 53 iirc).

 

[Muse]

How can I install Firefox if I can't get an internet connection?

 

[Bubbleawsome]

I guess put the installer on a USB drive

 

[VirtualLarry]

Bootstrapping a "fresh" XP SP3 installation, five years ago, was a PITA. I can't imagine, doing so today.

Seriously, don't even bother, that's my answer. Or beat your head against the wall of "unsupported OS, unsupported browser, etc." for hours upon end, even if you get Windows Update working.

Heck, it's nearly a PITA to get Windows 7 64-bit bootstrapped these days.

Edit: The real answer is, have you installed your system chipset drivers, and then your ethernet NIC drivers? Then, you need the IE8 installer packages, and then you can try to hit up Windows Update. Not before.

Edit: About the "Firewall" - did you install any "Security Suite" software? Sometimes, the mobo driver CD installer, will install some for you, some trial-ware suite or something. Norton, Eset, and McAffee were popular back in the day.

 

[Muse]

Bootstrapping a "fresh" XP SP3 installation, five years ago, was a PITA. I can't imagine, doing so today.

Seriously, don't even bother, that's my answer. Or beat your head against the wall of "unsupported OS, unsupported browser, etc." for hours upon end, even if you get Windows Update working.

Heck, it's nearly a PITA to get Windows 7 64-bit bootstrapped these days.

Edit: The real answer is, have you installed your system chipset drivers, and then your ethernet NIC drivers? Then, you need the IE8 installer packages, and then you can try to hit up Windows Update. Not before.

Well well well, didn't use a flash drive, but yeah, that was an option. I accessed the installation file from another XP machine I have running, copied it to my network and installed on the problem machine from there, and voila! After doing an email confirmation loop I am up... YEAH! I'm in Firefox now. So, somehow, the IE supplied with the XP SP3 installation DVD wasn't working... not on the Windows Update page, not at Google... Man, I'm suddenly getting super latency problem typing here... well, now and then.

Anyway, I'm up. But not so sure I should even access the internet from this installation..

Well, the reason I even went through this now 5 hour ordeal was to test and see if a fresh install of Windows would solve or at least help the audio dropout, video flash/bam/breakups of my HDTV app, and OMG, so far, it has... IT HAS!!! OK, maybe at least I get to see the World Cup Final without glitches!!! I'm going to try to restrain myself from installing anything else. I actually got the HDTV app working without an internet connection, it doesn't need one. It's just possible that installing an older version of the audio driver for my Hercules GTXP sound card is a factor in the reduced problems. Unlikely, but possible. I seem to remember experimenting with that before, but there were several versions to choose from, maybe the one I have installed now is the charm (yeah, right...).

I'm maybe going to try to get Win7 installed on the machine, I have files, notes, a SLIC 2.1 BIOS I can try... that's for another day. There's enough hair on the floor for now.

 

[Muse]

I'm wondering if I should bother running Windows Update!!! I don't think that will run in Firefox, right? I guess I can download an installer for ie8 and install that and then WinUpdat will run, huh?

 

[VirtualLarry]

I guess I can download an installer for ie8 and install that and then WinUpdat will run, huh?

Yeah, pretty much.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I JUST had this problem happen because I installed a Windows XP VM to update the Firmware in an Eaton 9130 Online UPS. The issue has to do with most of the extremely insecure protocols leveraging things such as MD5, SSL / TLS 1.0, etc. etc, are getting pulled from use across the Internet. This is causing strange behavior that Windows XP and its ancient stock browser (IE6 and IE7) are unable to interpret, so you get this weird stuff going on.

First get the final version of Windows Update Agent and install it (you'll need to get it via Thumb Drive or other shared drive): https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237

Then get the full installer for Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP and install it (again, via Thumb Drive to transfer): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=32072

After that reboot, you should start seeing the Task Manager Windows Update component start talking about Updates. So you'll start processing those. It will update updater pieces. Eventually that will stop and you can start going to Windows Update via Internet Explorer. More updates now as you transition to installing Microsoft Update instead of Windows Update. Finally, you should be able to scan your system, where 130 or so High Priority Updates will be waiting. Install them. This should include Internet Explorer 8. You should now have a system that works with the internet without the goofy display page issues.

 

[Muse]

Yeah, pretty much.

I tried that, no soap... yet. Got a message that it was wrong version or some such. Poked around looking for a version that might do the trick, gave up after a while. I'm wondering why I even want to do it, frankly. My HDTV app is behaving beautifully, that's what I want from the machine, why bother updating anything, including KB's from MS? I'm even wondering if I shouldn't just stop accessing the WWW with the machine! I have other machines I can use for that.

 

[Muse]

I JUST had this problem happen because I installed a Windows XP VM to update the Firmware in an Eaton 9130 Online UPS. The issue has to do with most of the extremely insecure protocols leveraging things such as MD5, SSL / TLS 1.0, etc. etc, are getting pulled from use across the Internet. This is causing strange behavior that Windows XP and its ancient stock browser (IE6 and IE7) are unable to interpret, so you get this weird stuff going on.

First get the final version of Windows Update Agent and install it (you'll need to get it via Thumb Drive or other shared drive): https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237

Then get the full installer for Internet Explorer 7 for Windows XP and install it (again, via Thumb Drive to transfer): https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=32072

After that reboot, you should start seeing the Task Manager Windows Update component start talking about Updates. So you'll start processing those. It will update updater pieces. Eventually that will stop and you can start going to Windows Update via Internet Explorer. More updates now as you transition to installing Microsoft Update instead of Windows Update. Finally, you should be able to scan your system, where 130 or so High Priority Updates will be waiting. Install them. This should include Internet Explorer 8. You should now have a system that works with the internet without the goofy display page issues.

Thanks for the info. If I decide I want to do Winupdat I'll follow these steps.

 

[Muse]

Well if it's Windows XP then the highest version of IE is version 8 and that barely works with any websites today. I'd recommend installing FireFox as it's the newest for XP browsers. (version 53 iirc).

I just looked. It's running Firefox ESR version 52.9.0. I didn't hunt it down, it's just what installed from what I downloaded to a WinXP laptop a few hours ago.

"Mozilla will offer an Extended Support Release (ESR) based on a regular release of Firefox for desktop for use by organizations including schools, universities, businesses and others who need extended support for mass deployments."