Please give some advice for my new custom PC build

[kesheth]

Hey, I am going to build my own PC so I just wanted to seek your advice, because you are the tech experts so please suggest me that should I go on for the purchase or any tailoring is required in the configs below!!
And I will use this build for BF3 and all such games and also for other regular uses, no video editing!

Intel core i5 3570k
Cooler Master 212 EVO cooler
MSI Z77A G45 Motherboard (or) ASrock Z77 extreme 4??
Sapphire HD 7850 OC edition
WD Black edition 500 GB HDD
Kingston V100 60 GB SSD
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB RAM
Cosrair TX650M Modular PSU
Cooler Master Elite 311plus Cabinet
And also please help me out with the mobo selection - Thanks!

 

[meeshu]

Basically, the components are OK.

But, if you're not overclocking, then the i5-3570 is suggested.

A better motherboard is the Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H.

 

[Steltek]

Your power supply is way over capacity for your listed system. You only need something in the 450-500 watt range. Also, You can get a 1TB Seagate Barracuda for less than what the 500GB WD Black costs. The WD is a good drive, but it isn't that much better a drive than the Seagate (especially in terms of post-flood build quality). Likewise on the memory - those fancy heat spreaders on the Corsair memory don't do much of anything and aren't worth paying extra for.

You may eventually wish you had spent a few dollars extra to get a higher capacity SSD. You'll be able to squeeze the OS (cutting it down by disabling things like hibernation) and a few large games on that one -- SSDs work best with some free space.

Either of the listed motherboards will work just fine. I recommend going with whichever is cheaper. If they are the same price, go with the one that has the most features.

 

[CoDLolcopter]

I'd pick the Asrock, but the GA-Z77-D3H is pretty decent.

I'd go for a WD Caviar Blue, cheaper and no need for speed because of the SSD.

Any chance you can bump up to a 120GB SSD?

 

[kesheth]

Thanks guys for your advice and some more questions, Is 2 Gigs of graphics
Really required for gaming ? I mean even 1 GB of DDR5, won't it solve the
Purpose of playing games at ultra settings in 1080p ?
And for the RAM now I will just go for transcend RAM to save on some bucks
For a better SSD!!

 

[rozkan]

There is no reason to spend too much on a motherboard. A $70 motherboard would just serve as well. Instead spend a little more on a 120GB or 256GB SSD, as it would increase performance much more. Get a 2GB video card as there is hardly any price difference between 1GB and 2GB 7850s, especially if you are going to play at 1080p you better have 2GB.

 

[Steltek]

If you truly don't ever see yourself overclocking your system, drop back to an H77 board and an i5-3570 (non-k) or an i5-3350P and drop the Cooler Master Hyper212 EVO (stock cooling is fine for non-OC systems). Then, use the extra money towards a better SSD and video card.

You might even want to consider one of the HD7870 cards based upon the "Tahiti LE" chipset. They are a cut-down version of the HD7950 (they actually should probably have been considered to have been a "HD7930", but AMD instead labeled them as HD7870s, despite the fact that they can only be used in crossfire configuration with another HD7900 series card). They are a few dollars more and use more power, but you can't beat the performance for the price (in some benches they even approach the performance of first gen HD-7950 cards) provided that you can find one in stock.

https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=PC-787_2V3
https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-7870XT2

Of course, at that price, you are also getting close to the $270 AR price at Newegg for a HD7950:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006

 

[kesheth]

Ok guyz so now I have completely redesigned the specs so are they OK now,
I5 3550
Asrock Z77 Pro3--( Just suites my requirements)
Sapphire HD 7870 OC edition
WD Blue 500 GB HDD coz I only need that much for now!
Cooler master Thunder 500 W PSU
Transcend JetRAM 8 GB DDR3
Corsair force series GS 180 GB SSD
And the Same Computer case!!

 

[kesheth]

And one more thing guyz is it kind of mandatory to load a OS on th SSD? Instead why can't is just use it store Games? Because then boot times don't really matter from a SSD as windows 8 hardly has any boot lag!!!

 

[rozkan]

So when you turn on your PC it boots up super fast, plus operating system does not stop running while you play a game. Which is why I recommended larger SSD, so you can put your operating system AND favorite games and programs on SSD.

 

[kesheth]

Ohhh.... Ok then my investment for OCZ 120 GB SSD would be fair enough? as I want to maintain a budget line also!!

 

[denis280]

Ohhh.... Ok then my investment for OCZ 120 GB SSD would be fair enough? as I want to maintain a budget line also!!

Yes:thumbsup:

 

[kesheth]

And one more thing if in the specs of a graphics they say minimum 500 W Power required so can I go for exactly 500 or 550?? And if graphics uses all the Power from PSU then how does motherboard and CPU get the juice?

 

[rozkan]

Let me give you an advice, don't try to save money when it comes to buying PSU. Buy a good quality PSU, and if your minimum requirments is 500W, then buy 700W or 750W one. So that you can use it for the years to come when there is newer computer parts with higher wattage requirements. Also, a good one will usually come with a 5 or 7 years warranty and won't die on you, burning your motherboard along with itself. So, here is a couple options for you:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I personally bought both of them for a couple of my builds after long research and have zero complaints. Don't ever buy a cheap PSU.

 

[Steltek]

And one more thing if in the specs of a graphics they say minimum 500 W Power required so can I go for exactly 500 or 550?? And if graphics uses all the Power from PSU then how does motherboard and CPU get the juice?

Video cards quote such high minimum power limits because the majority of the power supplies on the market are cheap crap. As long as you get a good brand (i.e. Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, or XFX), you won't have any problems. Your most recent system build as quoted will probably pull less than 350 watts at full load. You could upgrade your video card to an HD7970 and the system will still run on a good brand 500 watt power supply easily.

FYI: Cooler Master isn't that great of a power supply brand - at best, they are just average.

 

[kesheth]

Alright thanks for the advice!!!
And talking about something different, today I looked at a CPU which was the A10 5800K!! I never even a second felt that, OH its just AMD!
But then I would like to know what is wrong in Buying a A10 5800K CPU or (6800K coming soon) and cross firing with its equivalent compatible graphics card and achieving ~30- 40 FPS at 1080P in a very low cost budget BUILD???!!!

 

[kesheth]

Alright thanks for the advice!!!
And talking about something different, today I looked at a CPU which was the A10 5800K!! I never even a second felt that, OH its just AMD!
But then I would like to know what is wrong in Buying a A10 5800K CPU or (6800K coming soon) and cross firing with its equivalent compatible graphics card and achieving ~30- 40 FPS at 1080P in a very low cost budget BUILD???!!! I mean to ask that does it make sense going to the APU or INTEL is Best in these Cases (Many Benchmarks do reveal Intel Superior though)

 

[kesheth]

Guyz I have almost selected the parts and now I have been insisted to build a budget rig but for Gaming purposes!!
I have now selected a i5 3470 ( has all the things that I need and not overclocking because I have to save on bucks), For the Motherboard I have chosen MSI H77 G41 (as it is very cheap and well for non overclockers ) so I wanted to know that , for squeezing in game FPS more, should I stick to HD 7870 OC from sapphire? Or it will create bottlenecking!!? Plz guyz Thanx

 

[Steltek]

What is the complete model of the motherboard you have selected? You need to make sure that it supports Ivy Bridge processors out of the box without requiring a BIOS upgrade. A BIOS upgrade would require you to have access to an older Socket 1155 processor to use in flashing the BIOS.

 

[CoDLolcopter]

I'm pretty sure the motherboard is this:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/ZH77A-G41.html#/?div=Basic

kesheth, there won't be a bottleneck as far as I'm concerned.

 

[kesheth]

Yes That's the mother board I am talking about! Should I go for it? Because I feel I will just be loosing on some OC and SLI features as of The Z77 Chipset mobo!
OR should I go for A 3570K rather on a Z77 Chipset!!? I am really kinda freaked out because of tonnes of options to choose for all the stuffs!!

 

[rozkan]

I recommend this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157297

 

[Steltek]

H77 motherboards are just fine, as long as they have the features you need.

According to the MSI website, the motherboard you selected requires at least BIOS v1.4 installed to support the majority of Ivy Bridge processors (including the i5-3470). As a result, you need to know what BIOS is installed in the board - if it is below v1.4, you'll need access to an older socket 1155 CPU to flash the BIOS so it will work with your chosen CPU.

You really need to check with the vendor to ensure they can ship you a board with the v1.4 or later BIOS installed. Otherwise, the board won't work when you try to install it.

 

[kesheth]

Thankyou so much guyz for the support and the Asrock Pro3 is also just the perfect fit ! I will do some more research and then finally go on for my build!!

 

[kesheth]

I just wanted to know that if we overclock our CPU say from 3.3 to 3.6 GHZ so do we have increase voltage? Or if not when should we start changing the core voltage? I am really a noob to overclocking so any comprehensive explanation on how to do basic overclocking would be highly obliged!