Please convince me NOT to get this case.

[Zepper]

I don's see the C-M ATCS-840 in there or the Silverstone FT01 which is off the TJ07 design.

.bh.

 

[CurseTheSky]

I added both. I still can't get into the ATCS, though the FT01 is a very nice case.

 

[Tullphan]

CurseTheSky, YGPM

 

[RegiReg]

I am looking for a case myself, here are additional options I am considering

Lian Li PC-P60B
?Lian Li PC-P80B
Lian Li PC-X500
Lian Li PC-X2000

What do you think?

 

[Old Hippie]

Lian Li PC-X500 would be my choice.

Price would be @ 265.00 if you bought from MWave on Ebay and used the MS cash back at 25%.

But.....you really otta start another thread.

CB is now 30%! :thumbsup:

Makes the price @ 250.00.

Shit!! Now I might have to buy one!! :laugh:

 

[RegiReg]

I did not mean to hijack the thread, sorry if it looks that way.
Just wanted to throw in some additional ideas.

Thanks for the recommendation Old Hippie.

 

[Tullphan]

That PC-X500 isn't a bad looking case. I'm not sure about the side-mounted optical drives, though.
It looks to be slightly taller than the Stacker 832 i'm selling & about 4" taller than my old V1000BW, so mounting it under my desk would be a no-go.
$250 isn't a bad price for it if one had the room for it.

 

[Zepper]

sideways optical bays = LL doing something stupid because they can again: snail, reverse airflow, etc. etc.) not due to any technical merit .

.bh.

 

[Tullphan]

Everyone's gotta be different in their own special way, Zep!

 

[nealh]

I have a friend that's nuts about Lian Li, and they just don't appeal to me. I've personally worked with a Rocketfish and TJ-07; the Silverstone was nice and working with an aluminum chassis was definately a welcome change, but the build quality wasn't what I'd consider "$100-200" better than a P182, Nine Hundred, etc.

Again, if the TJ-07 was a bit cheaper and came with 120mm fans all around, I'd probably grab it. If the TJ-09, TJ-10, etc. looked as nice as the TJ-07, I'd consider those.

I own a TJ07 and with the exception of the 2 92 mm fans which should be a singel 120mm it is an excllent case...but it was a close choice between Lian-Li cases..
I got a simple fan controller that makes things nice and quiet for all my fans..2 x 92, 2 top 120mm fans and 5 fans on my thermochill PA120.3 rad....

I watercool and made some mods to suit my needs...but for size and easy use I am not sure much else compares to these bigger cases(I place Lian-Li, Mountain Mods etc)
Check the 4/13/08 post
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

I do wish they had made some cable managment holes like in Raven series ..that was a bitch to cut

I owned a P180..nice caes but it needs significant mods for better cooling..but excellent price point for alot of quality(except for the plastic tabs on the sides..break kinda easy..at least when i bought mine few years ago)

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Originally posted by: videogames101

Originally posted by: BonzaiDuck
I'll throw my two-cents in here, since I've revisited these forums today and am throwing in a lot of two-cents.

I understand the obsession with style and appearance.

If you want my opinion, the Cosmos has lousy airflow. Other CM models, like the various incarnations of the Stacker, have great airflow potential -- so good, in fact, that people are tempted needlessly to take advantage of it, when the proper choices of fan placement, blocking off extra vents and other actions will reduce the number of fans and provide excellent cooling. The HAF is also great.

I'll pick a case for airflow first, interior roominess and installation features second, and exterior appearance third. That's just my view of it.

Which is why the 900/1200 models are awesome.

I've yet to try an Antec case (I think that's what you mean, because I've seen those models).

This summer '08 brought my first new case I've purchased since 2003, except for a CM Centurion to build a recycled unit for my sister-in-law's mother. (She's happy -- there are quadzillions of people her age who wouldn't know a mouse from a curling iron.)

Since '03, I've modded some four or five '90s-era ATX cases -- culminating with a 1994 (pre-ATX) Compaq ProLiant Server case. I had an opportunity this summer to pick up the CM Stacker 830 Evo for about $150 -- still in its shrink-wrapped carton, no shipping or tax. Couldn't pass it up.

I don't think I've finished with the obsession for recycling these old cases, but my sources are drying up. I have two shells left to work on. Worst problem with the old Gateway 2000 "full-tower" cases: shallow depth compared to units like the Stacker. But I get inspiration from the newer cases, cut some sheet-metal, and do a lot of dremeling and screw-tapping.

Tentatively, I'll keep an eye on the HAF case, while looking at the potential of those Antecs afore-mentioned to mod into HAFs. Like the recycled SECC-steel '90s-vintage junk, if you can pick up a decent case for less than $100 and make it an airflow-miracle, metallic acrylic-enamel and "clear" doesn't cost all that much.

REtired people have the time to spend working in garage workshops, and there are self-actualization and DIY sense-of-accomplishment. Looking around these forums, I'm not alone . . . . [but I still wonder if I'm going nuts . . . ]

Summer, 2007: [ProLiant] Chrome Lightning [needs a better paint job, but I can see a few years of continued use and modification. I think it's a "work in progress."]

 

[Zepper]

The reason the Tj07 has 92mm fans is the mobo drawer - to have a 120mm fan with a drawer, the whole case has to be wider (making the case even more outrageously expensive than it is. I think there are some scythe 92mm fans out there that can move some air with reasonably low noise. Some 32mm or deeper 92mm fans exist which might also work well assuming there is clearance.

.bh.

 

[motoxpress]

I have to say, that I just completed a build for a friend with a 1200 and I am really impressed with the function and design of the case. Everything feels quality with nice space design, removable trays, good cable management (not amazing but usable) and wonderful airflow. Having also owned MacPros, I have to say this case comes the closest to the clean design of the MacPro (on the inside) I have seen yet. I acknowledge that the external design is a little over the top but in terms of a functional case this is a tough one to beat for the price. It also has an esata connection on the front which I personally really like.

I will think seriously about this case when I build my next 3D workstation.

-mx

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Originally posted by: motoxpress
I have to say, that I just completed a build for a friend with a 1200 and I am really impressed with the function and design of the case. Everything feels quality with nice space design, removable trays, good cable management (not amazing but usable) and wonderful airflow. Having also owned MacPros, I have to say this case comes the closest to the clean design of the MacPro (on the inside) I have seen yet. I acknowledge that the external design is a little over the top but in terms of a functional case this is a tough one to beat for the price. It also has an esata connection on the front which I personally really like.

I will think seriously about this case when I build my next 3D workstation.

-mx

I took a close look at the 900 and 1200. Not only are they "ready-to-go," but I see all sorts of potential -- H20 or air-cooling, take your pick. Did I not see a $59 price-tag this weekend for a 900 Antec at NewEgg? That's what I mean. I don't even think there's a lot of "modding" needed. Sure . . . . you could put it on double-wheeled casters with brakes, and dremel one or two holes in the bottom for 140mm fans. Even for the $109 price, it becomes attractive if you want to cut holes in it.

People have been talking about these Antec cases on this forum for quite some time, and I didn't pay enough attention.

Also, I've said it before and the myth may be a thing of the past, but aluminum ( more expensive) isn't going to give you better cooling if you have superior airflow. Without good airflow, you won't have good cooling even if the case is made of aluminum. So the only drawback to SECC steel is additional weight, and that's not significant, either.