PlayStation Now Launching With 'Hundreds of Titles'

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mmntech

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Music doesn't eat gigabytes of bandwidth every month. I stream on my phone from Google play music daily for hours at a time and don't see my mobile data usage spike because of it. I am afraid the ISP situation in the US will force gaming to become irrelevant and die completely if they force streaming as the only option as game streaming is probably very bandwidth intensive.

I think that's why Microsoft has taken a cautious approach. There were rumours that the Durango (Xbone) was going to be download only. Though the company admitted that internet infrastructure in some markets wasn't quite up to snuff to accommodation that. Download caps make it extremely difficult.
 

KentState

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I would imagine that most of "us" (people in this forum) are not the demographic for this. When I was a kid a rented all the time because I had all the time in the world to play. These days I never know if I will actually get to play or not.

I haven't been on the system in a few weeks so I'm not sure if they changed anything, but they did have a 30 day option, but no idea how much it was going to be. If you could "rent" a game for say...$10 for 30 days, that might be a pretty good option. Not an option "I" would want, but may fit others just fine.

As for the service itself here are my thoughts...

The betas have you sign an NDA agreement I thought. At least the email to me dictates that.
 

sze5003

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I received a ps now beta code today. Then I just read that they are starting the ps4 now beta. I would like to have the ps4 beta option though.
 

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The betas have you sign an NDA agreement I thought. At least the email to me dictates that.

Yea, pretty much all betas have NDA, however they are not really in the same league as other technology NDA's. They just don't want you blasting bad reviews all over. I told them what I told you. They just said they are rolling it out, not sure they've actually tweaked anything, but who knows. It's not all bad, it's just not any better than anything anyone did before them. The beta apparently is still going because I hopped on it again last night. The games have been changed around, but eh...still YMMV at best.
 
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Aikouka

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I received a ps now beta code today. Then I just read that they are starting the ps4 now beta. I would like to have the ps4 beta option though.

I got one too. So, am I stuck with using it on the PS3 or can I use it on the PS4 without a code? :(
 

sze5003

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I redeemed mine on ps3. Played some of the games so far, its decent that's all I'll say.
 
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bearxor

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Music doesn't eat gigabytes of bandwidth every month. I stream on my phone from Google play music daily for hours at a time and don't see my mobile data usage spike because of it. I am afraid the ISP situation in the US will force gaming to become irrelevant and die completely if they force streaming as the only option as game streaming is probably very bandwidth intensive.

You're not putting pieces together. You're taking this situation or that situation completely separately and saying that this can't happen or that can't happen without looking at the whole picture.

Let's say you have Comcast with a bandwidth cap. And you subscribe to PS Now to play games. $15/mo. Sony and Comcast will have an arrangement where Comcast gets a certain % of your monthly service fee and, in return, they provide you access to PS Now that doesn't deduct from your bandwidth cap.

Boom, problem solved.
 

cmdrdredd

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You're not putting pieces together. You're taking this situation or that situation completely separately and saying that this can't happen or that can't happen without looking at the whole picture.

Let's say you have Comcast with a bandwidth cap. And you subscribe to PS Now to play games. $15/mo. Sony and Comcast will have an arrangement where Comcast gets a certain % of your monthly service fee and, in return, they provide you access to PS Now that doesn't deduct from your bandwidth cap.

Boom, problem solved.

Heh...I don't know if Comcast will play ball that way
 

cmdrdredd

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Yea not without trying to charge the customer too.

Well, I mean that Netflix tried to get comcast, verizon etc to work with them and they refused until Netflix paid them directly. I can't find how much they paid, but they signed a deal in Feb to pay comcast for direct peering and now more recently verizon got the same deal. Netflix says it will pay more ISPs if they have to. What this could mean is that streaming services of any kind may see the same strong arm policies. Sony could be asked to pay a big amount of money since Netflix did. The whole deal set a bad precedent.
 

smackababy

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Netflix was directly competing with Comcast's cable subscriber base. PS Now won't be. That is the only reason I see Comcast working with Sony on this. And, Comcast's CEO said that despite them testing data caps in a few areas, they have no plans to ever implement them.
 

cmdrdredd

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Netflix was directly competing with Comcast's cable subscriber base. PS Now won't be. That is the only reason I see Comcast working with Sony on this. And, Comcast's CEO said that despite them testing data caps in a few areas, they have no plans to ever implement them.

Comcast is close to a deal with EA to stream games. The only caveat is that they say you can use a tablet or phone to control the game which suggests it may be mobile versions of games rather than console.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/re...-to-signing-streaming-game-deal/1100-6419399/


Comcast plans data limits for all customers
http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/15/technology/comcast-data-limits/

David Cohen, executive vice president of America's largest cable company, predicted at a conference Wednesday that in five years' time, the company will have "a usage-based billing model rolled out across its footprint."
That means Comcast (CMCSA, Fortune 500) customers could only consume a certain amount of data before facing extra charges for going over their limits.


We will have to see where it all goes.
 
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Exophase

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Aside from the streaming stuff, I really want to comment on "renting games".

This is coming. You're not going to "own" your games in the future.

There is however a huge distinction between buying a license that lets
you play a game indefinitely vs one that only lets you play for a month.

I would imagine that most of "us" (people in this forum) are not the demographic for this. When I was a kid a rented all the time because I had all the time in the world to play. These days I never know if I will actually get to play or not.

Same here, when I was a kid I'd rent games because it was a lot cheaper that way - rent it once for the weekend, maybe twice in a row and I could plow through even a 40+ hour RPG. Now I don't really have time for games at all.. So I'm probably not a real demographic anyway, but I think these days there are a lot more adult gamers with sporadic free time playing games instead of kids on summer break with unlimited free time.
 

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Comcast is close to a deal with EA to stream games. The only caveat is that they say you can use a tablet or phone to control the game which suggests it may be mobile versions of games rather than console.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/re...-to-signing-streaming-game-deal/1100-6419399/


Comcast plans data limits for all customers
http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/15/technology/comcast-data-limits/




We will have to see where it all goes.

Awesome, data limits. There goes technology.
 

sze5003

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Funny you say that because Verizon just released xlte in their aws spectrum. Now I have coworkers complaining that they get 50mb down on their phone but only have 2gb of data to use.
 

cmdrdredd

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Funny you say that because Verizon just released xlte in their aws spectrum. Now I have coworkers complaining that they get 50mb down on their phone but only have 2gb of data to use.

Exactly the problem. With Comcast now I get 105 down and 20 up which in my experience is closer to 120 down and 25 up. I am not capped, were I capped at say 350GB as the current model suggests then it would limit how much I can really benefit from that speed. There have been months where I am close to 1TB because of Netflix, amazon prime movies, and downloading 10-30GB games. Downloading games, streaming HD movies etc all eat away at your allotment which is why a lot of people get into trouble and have big fees from wireless carriers, they have all this bandwidth and look at what they can do but they don't have enough data allowance to make good use of it.
 

sze5003

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We aren't capped with Comcast either. Currently I'm on a 50mb package but I think that will go away soon as I'm already paying nearly $100 for preferred non hd cable and internet. I really hate negotiating with them but my apartment doesn't get any other service.

With games getting bigger and bigger, some up to 50gb for a download and multiple users in a home, I could see how one could easily go over the cap.
 

ImpulsE69

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For those that were asking...apparently this service was NOT part of the beta for PS4. I just received a code for the beginning of the PS4 beta (PS3 games only apparently). I do not own a PS4 so I won't be able to look at this.
 

Kneedragger

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For those that were asking...apparently this service was NOT part of the beta for PS4. I just received a code for the beginning of the PS4 beta (PS3 games only apparently). I do not own a PS4 so I won't be able to look at this.

Just received my PS4 invite. Gonna give it a run next week.
 

purbeast0

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For those that were asking...apparently this service was NOT part of the beta for PS4. I just received a code for the beginning of the PS4 beta (PS3 games only apparently). I do not own a PS4 so I won't be able to look at this.

if you want to give it out, i'd gladly take it. i want to be a believer in this tech but simply won't be until i try it myself.
 

cmdrdredd

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Well, nobody in that high of a position just says something like that without there being some truth behind it. I'm supposed to just believe he was drunk or something when he said there would be metered internet access across the board in 5 years? This PR is only damage control and nothing more.

Especially when in paragraph two they talk about adding "unlimited plans". What that most likely means is they will charge more, probably a lot more to get unlimited internet. I can almost guarantee that if people start paying for that, they will do it everywhere. I do not trust anyone who works for Comcast. I pay them because I have no choice. That itself is a problem. Everything they have done to this point has sent a strong message that they want to cap your usage rather than expand their networks to handle capacity, not unlike cellular carriers in the US. Lately they have been treading carefully due to the expected acquisition of TimeWarner.
 
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