Playing DAI, can't stand the noise on my ref 780ti, are there any 290x quieter?

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Spanners

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I can cherry pick too, but I'm not playing. :: shrugs ::

I'm not sure how a selection of recent games bench-marked across multiple resolutions/cards is cherry picking? Seems like the exact opposite. Do you have an issue with their methodology? Otherwise is looks like the 780ti is slower than the 290x in recent titles.
 

KaRLiToS

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I would not waste my time and money getting a R9 290x when there is GM200 and R9 390x around the corner.
 

Jhatfie

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I would not waste my time and money getting a R9 290x when there is GM200 and R9 390x around the corner.

Why is that? The next premium AMD and Nvidia products will undoubtedly cost about twice as much as what you can get a new 290x for lately. Sure they will be faster and more power efficient, but they will be in a totally different price bracket.
 

KaRLiToS

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Why is that? The next premium AMD and Nvidia products will undoubtedly cost about twice as much as what you can get a new 290x for lately. Sure they will be faster and more power efficient, but they will be in a totally different price bracket.

Just keep the GTX 780ti, that is why! Live with it. It is not like the Vapor chamber of the GTX 780/Titan is noisy.

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9dBa is not worth the hassle to sell the GTX 780ti and get a Tri-X...
 

Jhatfie

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Just keep the GTX 780ti, that is why! Live with it. It is not like the Vapor chamber of the GTX 780/Titan is noisy.

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9dBa is not worth the hassle to sell the GTX 780ti and get a Tri-X...

Sorry my bad, I thought the OP had already decided to keep the 780ti and hook up a G10 bracket. I misunderstood your comment and thought it was inferring that a 290x in general was not worth any investment.
 

KaRLiToS

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Sorry my bad, I thought the OP had already decided to keep the 780ti and hook up a G10 bracket. I misunderstood your comment and thought it was inferring that a 290x in general was not worth any investment.

No problem mate, I have 4 x R9 290x in Quadfire by the way. ;)
 

raghu78

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I'm not sure how a selection of recent games bench-marked across multiple resolutions/cards is cherry picking? Seems like the exact opposite. Do you have an issue with their methodology? Otherwise is looks like the 780ti is slower than the 290x in recent titles.

well said. thats 10 high profile AAA games released in 2014. If thats not a good indication of performance in recent games then I don't know what is. maybe his bias is so bad that he cannot distinguish between a wide range of games being tested at multiple resolutions and cherrypicking :whiste:

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I was under the impression that the stock cooler on those cards (Titan, 780ti) was extremely good, not that I've ever seen one in person, mind you.

Although, and correct if I'm wrong, but I believe that they made similar looking, albeit inferior models for their lower cards. (i.e. without vapor chambers)

That said, if your 780ti has the top of the line stock cooler with vapor chamber and all the bells and whistles, it should by all rights be an excellent unit.

Might I suggest that perhaps it is something wrong with the fan? Those things are, more often than not, the first thing to go on GFX cards.

TLDR: I'd be really interested in a recording of the card under load. Bearings on their way out could easily account for offending noise.

Off topic: How crazy is it that one could now conceivably argue in favor of purchasing Hawaii based cards based on acoustic performance; after the unmitigated disaster that was the stock launch cooler? Whoever OK'ed that obnoxious, under-performing, disaster of a blower for the company's flagship offering has no business... For shame!
 

RussianSensation

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well said. thats 10 high profile AAA games released in 2014. If thats not a good indication of performance in recent games then I don't know what is. maybe his bias is so bad that he cannot distinguish between a wide range of games being tested at multiple resolutions and cherrypicking :whiste:

A lot of users of a certain brand have a problem admitting that the large price premiums of older cards did not actually live up to the promise of future-proofing. He can't publicly admit that 780Ti is now trading blows with an after-market 290, considering the former cost $300-350 more for 6+ months. That would nullify the idea that spending big bucks for a certain brand's flagship was justified when just 1 year after launch it can't even convincingly beat an $350-400 competitor's card that now regularly sells for $250-280. Do you think a 780Ti owner wants to admit his $700 card is now as fast as a $250-300 AMD card in 2014 games? :awe:

I was under the impression that the stock cooler on those cards (Titan, 780ti) was extremely good, not that I've ever seen one in person, mind you

It works well on a 180W 980, but not as well as well on a 260-270W 780Ti.

Gigabyte Windforce vs. Titan Black reference cooler:

"In the automatic regulation mode, when the fans accelerated steadily from a silent 1000 RPM to a comfortable 2040 RPM, the peak GPU temperature was 78°C. It is about 20°C better than with the reference cooler and much quieter, too! That’s just an excellent performance for a cooler of the world’s fastest graphics card."
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/gr...te-geforce-gtx-titan-black-ghz-edition_4.html

The main reason I suggested selling the 780Ti and getting 2
290s is because of the 60-70% increase in performance on the OP's main game for what would be a small outlay after reselling the 780Ti. Then he could wait 12-15 months before getting a 390/390X/GM200 at much discounted prices. Those cards new will cost an arm and a leg. The G10 is a good idea though if he has a spare CLC.
 

Pneumothorax

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A lot of users of a certain brand have a problem admitting that the large price premiums of older cards did not actually live up to the promise of future-proofing. He can't publicly admit that 780Ti is now trading blows with an after-market 290, considering the former cost $300-350 more for 6+ months. That would nullify the idea that spending big bucks for a certain brand's flagship was justified when just 1 year after launch it can't even convincingly beat an $350-400 competitor's card that now regularly sells for $250-280. Do you think a 780Ti owner wants to admit his $700 card is now as fast as a $250-300 AMD card in 2014 games? :awe:



It works well on a 180W 980, but not as well as well on a 260-270W 780Ti.

Gigabyte Windforce vs. Titan Black reference cooler:

"In the automatic regulation mode, when the fans accelerated steadily from a silent 1000 RPM to a comfortable 2040 RPM, the peak GPU temperature was 78°C. It is about 20°C better than with the reference cooler and much quieter, too! That’s just an excellent performance for a cooler of the world’s fastest graphics card."
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/gr...te-geforce-gtx-titan-black-ghz-edition_4.html

The main reason I suggested selling the 780Ti and getting 2
290s is because of the 60-70% increase in performance on the OP's main game for what would be a small outlay after reselling the 780Ti. Then he could wait 12-15 months before getting a 390/390X/GM200 at much discounted prices. Those cards new will cost an arm and a leg. The G10 is a good idea though if he has a spare CLC.

I am seriously irritated that the 290 is trading blows with a card that 3 months ago was going for $600. I have a great fear that the 3gb of ram on my 780ti is going to be a huge liability in upcoming titles. What got me to return the G1 980 was seeing what happened to the 'mid-range' 670/680 performance now and seeing how Nvidia just seemingly abandoned further Kepler gaming optimization.

I was set on getting a non-reference 290/290x when I bought my 780ti at the beginning of 2014 but stupid miners ruined the prices for everyone...

Just keep the GTX 780ti, that is why! Live with it. It is not like the Vapor chamber of the GTX 780/Titan is noisy.

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9dBa is not worth the hassle to sell the GTX 780ti and get a Tri-X...

It's not just the dba difference...

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According to this chart my 780ti reference is just a little bit louder than the G1 980. The G1 does make a bit of noise, but it's in the lower frequency less irritating register while my 780ti sounds like my retina macbook pro 15 when gaming. It's a white noise type of sound, not a rumbling rough sound of a bad bearing. I've had bearings go bad before of vid cards and I know this isn't it. I've also cleaned the card throughly with compressed air at 30-40 psi and it didn't help. The fan is super quiet and smooth up till about 70-80% then it gets annoying.

PS It runs at around 80C when gaming which is considered acceptable for a reference 780ti based on anandtech and other 780ti reference review temps...
 

imaheadcase

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Get a custom cooler, i did and its so much quieter now. You don't get that "whine up noise" like a engine started.
 

railven

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Have you considered buying a good PC case instead? I saw a huge difference in sound once I upgraded to my Silverstone Hawk 2 RV02B-W Case. Most of Silverstone's full size cases have excellent cooling at low noise levels.

I went from a Corsair Carbide 500R to a Graphite 780T.

Just about the same amount of fans, and holy crap is it quiet. Only noise I hear is moving air.

I re-TIM'ed my card after a failed Kraken G10 upgrade attempt and that alone dropped my temps 10C. I keep forgetting how horrendous stock TIM jobs can be.

Load for my 780 Lightning use to be easily 65-66C, now it coasts at 55-58C, and my case is amazingly quiet.
 

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I got 2x's OEM 290X's in CF under XSPC WB's with a Koolance 401x2 RP with 2X's 400 PMB pumps in series thru a Goolgate 280x60x140 Rad with 4 Noctua Fans in Push Pull and it's QUIET.

CPU & GPU temps never go above 67C under load and Idle at 36C (Including the VRM's) when the CF 290X's are OC'd at 1180x1500 Mhz's no matter what I play. CPU is an an i7 2700K running between 1600 to 4800 Mhz's on a Z68 ASUS Platform, cooled by a Corsair H110 AIO - Fractal Midi R2 Case - All fans are 140's - 7 x's 140 fans in total.

Them spec's are 24/7 but I can buzz the Cpu to 5.2 Ghz's with the CF 290 x's running at 1250 x 1500Mhz's and the Platform is still verily Quiet.

Did I say QUIET ;o)
 
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Pneumothorax

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I went from a Corsair Carbide 500R to a Graphite 780T.

Just about the same amount of fans, and holy crap is it quiet. Only noise I hear is moving air.

I re-TIM'ed my card after a failed Kraken G10 upgrade attempt and that alone dropped my temps 10C. I keep forgetting how horrendous stock TIM jobs can be.

Load for my 780 Lightning use to be easily 65-66C, now it coasts at 55-58C, and my case is amazingly quiet.

What exactly failed on your g10 attempt? Now you have me nervous... I just ordered a g10 and have a H105. I did get some small aluminum heat sinks for the VRM/RAM
 

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If you are sensitive to volume fluctuations and weird rattles then I don't think the Sapphire Tri-X is for you. It's not loud per se, and significantly quieter than the AMD reference blower, but it does resonate at certain RPM's.

See this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rf4f9wsO84

I know it sounds like the fans are grinding against the heat sink, but they aren't. It's just that at a certain RPM range the heat sink fins resonate with the vibration from the fans. Once you get past this range, the card is relatively quiet at higher RPM's. However, every time the card ramps up you will go through this resonating/rattling stage. In some games that are less demanding, the card will bounce back and forth between that rattling sound and the normal higher RPM relatively quiet state. In higher demanding games the RPM's will generally stay above the resonating point.

Again, the Tri-X cooler isn't what most people would consider loud, but if you are sensitive to noise fluctuations, this card might just work your nerves. The video isn't mine btw, but my Tri-X R9 290 sounded just like that one.
 

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I absolutely hate loud PC components and have built my entire system around it being quiet.

For VGA cooling, I use an Artic Accellero Extreme III (there is a IV out, but with the backplate/mounting bracket, looks too large for my mATX case)

Noise at idle is almost the same as noise at load.

I originally got one with my Radeon 5870, and it spins up even less with my current GTX 970.
 

SirCanealot

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That's the most hurtful thing I've heard today...
And I just did a 23 hour shift in a prison.

I was about to say the same thing. Why is it that bad? They have power targets.

Try adjusting your power target. I have a Windforce Ghz Edition 780ti and DA:I pushes my GPU hard too. It usually uses around 80-85% power. If I set it to 80% or 78% I'd just be shaving the very top couple of boost bins off and the GPU temp would drop quite a bit. Performance isn't impacted that much.

I also don't know why you don't just set the GPU fan to the maximum you can tolerate (that's what I've always done). That way the GPU runs cooler when it's not under heavy loud and doesn't get too loud when it is. You might end up a few degrees hotter, but the GPU can take it. My temps when playing DA:I are around 65-73 or so with the GPU fan set around 75%.
 

Pneumothorax

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If you are sensitive to volume fluctuations and weird rattles then I don't think the Sapphire Tri-X is for you. It's not loud per se, and significantly quieter than the AMD reference blower, but it does resonate at certain RPM's.

See this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rf4f9wsO84

I know it sounds like the fans are grinding against the heat sink, but they aren't. It's just that at a certain RPM range the heat sink fins resonate with the vibration from the fans. Once you get past this range, the card is relatively quiet at higher RPM's. However, every time the card ramps up you will go through this resonating/rattling stage. In some games that are less demanding, the card will bounce back and forth between that rattling sound and the normal higher RPM relatively quiet state. In higher demanding games the RPM's will generally stay above the resonating point.

Again, the Tri-X cooler isn't what most people would consider loud, but if you are sensitive to noise fluctuations, this card might just work your nerves. The video isn't mine btw, but my Tri-X R9 290 sounded just like that one.

Wow, that's pretty annoying, and seeing that rma'ing the card didn't do jack to fix it lets me know that sapphire considers it 'normal'

I absolutely hate loud PC components and have built my entire system around it being quiet.

For VGA cooling, I use an Artic Accellero Extreme III (there is a IV out, but with the backplate/mounting bracket, looks too large for my mATX case)

Noise at idle is almost the same as noise at load.

I originally got one with my Radeon 5870, and it spins up even less with my current GTX 970.

Thought about getting the accelero IV, but my noctua nh-15 is too close to my vid card as it is


I was about to say the same thing. Why is it that bad? They have power targets.

Try adjusting your power target. I have a Windforce Ghz Edition 780ti and DA:I pushes my GPU hard too. It usually uses around 80-85% power. If I set it to 80% or 78% I'd just be shaving the very top couple of boost bins off and the GPU temp would drop quite a bit. Performance isn't impacted that much.

I also don't know why you don't just set the GPU fan to the maximum you can tolerate (that's what I've always done). That way the GPU runs cooler when it's not under heavy loud and doesn't get too loud when it is. You might end up a few degrees hotter, but the GPU can take it. My temps when playing DA:I are around 65-73 or so with the GPU fan set around 75%.

Tried that already and yes it runs quieter, but since I'm gaming at 1600p, my 780ti is already pushed to the ragged edge at default and don't want to slow it down any further.
 

Pneumothorax

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Successful!! Just finished putting together my reference 780 ti with g10/h105 combo. Now super quiet, even when running fans at their slowest. At 1000 rpm gpu temp hovers at 43 C instead of 83 C. Just worried about the VRMs. Liquid cooling should be stock on these $600 cards!