Playbook reviews are out!

[Pliablemoose]

*Yawn* All you're proving is you can quote negative viewpoints or at worst incorrect ones. I could post thousands of positive soundbites, but who wants to play your childish games?

I'd respect you more if you just posted, 'I hate RIM and will never buy or like anything they make.', but you don't have the stones.

I might buy a PlayBook or a QNX phone, I think the QNX OS has a lot of potential. A year of polish, makes a world of difference. I'd love a touchscreen 4-4.5" phone with QNX on it.

BTW, I still have a Curve... forgot to put that on my sig, Why would I use it when I have other phones that meet my needs so much better.

runaway asked why the 6/10 from Anand, I reread the review, it deserves a lower score in it's current form IMHO.

 

[ponyo]

I seem to remember some folks bashing Playbook battery life couple months ago. Final product seems to have good battery life.

"The battery life on the PlayBook is outstanding. In my testing, which ran a video on loop with the display set to 65 percent brightness, WiFi on, the battery lasted nearly 11 hours — an outstanding run for a device of this type. Of course, having a 5300mAh cell inside doesn’t hurt anything.

In general use, I found the PlayBook to be comparable in battery performance to its closest competitors (the iPad 2 and Xoom); it actually bests the iPad in video playback, and that number would only climb higher if you were to tweak the brightness further and kill WiFi."

http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/13/blackberry-playbook-review/

 

[DivideBYZero]

I seem to remember some folks bashing Playbook battery life couple months ago. Final product seems to have good battery life.

"The battery life on the PlayBook is outstanding. In my testing, which ran a video on loop with the display set to 65 percent brightness, WiFi on, the battery lasted nearly 11 hours — an outstanding run for a device of this type. Of course, having a 5300mAh cell inside doesn’t hurt anything.

In general use, I found the PlayBook to be comparable in battery performance to its closest competitors (the iPad 2 and Xoom); it actually bests the iPad in video playback, and that number would only climb higher if you were to tweak the brightness further and kill WiFi."

http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/13/blackberry-playbook-review/

This thread is for bashing the PlayBook, not praising it.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I trust Anand's battery life review a lot more than Josh's:

At 7.66 hours of battery life the PlayBook is noticeably worse than the competition, and that's without checking emails in the background as well.

Maybe I'm reading the graphs wrong?

Throw in a 3G/4G radio and background processes like email, app checking, GPS, I see some real issues for the cell enabled PlayBooks.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Ahh, service is restored...

 

[ponyo]

The problem with Anand test is that he's using 1080p playback on the Playbook and 720p or lower on all other devices since others can't do 1080p. Of course 1080p is going to stress and eat more battery. That's like testing a game at 1920x1080 on one system and 1280x720 on another and claiming 720p system runs the game smoother than the 1080p.

Battery life seems like non-issue for the PlayBook and that was one of my big concern about the device after I read so much FUD on the pre-production unit months back.

Edit: I see he has 720p battery life as well. 9 hours is terrific for 7 inch device and much better than 7" Galaxy Tab.

 

[Pliablemoose]

The problem with Anand test is that he's using 1080p playback on the Playbook and 720p or lower on all other devices since others can't do 1080p. Of course 1080p is going to stress and eat more battery. That's like testing a game at 1920x1080 on one system and 1280x720 on another and claiming 720p system runs the game smoother than the 1080p.

Battery life seems like non-issue for the PlayBook and that was one of my big concern about the device after I read so much FUD on the pre-production unit months back.

In the 2nd graph, he did both.

Remember his battery life scenarios are without email running etc, as the PlayBook doesn't have quite a few processes the other tablets do...

Also, throw in a radio and the game changes again...

Research In Motion has continued to defend the BlackBerry PlayBook against doubts over the tablet's battery life. In an interview with Reuters, RIM's senior vice president for business and platform marketing, Jeff McDowell, claimed the tablet will sustain battery life "equal or greater than the iPad with smaller battery size."
McDowell suggests analysts' skepticism regarding the battery life is baseless, however the company has yet to disclose any specific figures with hour estimates for various tasks. Another RIM executive several weeks ago suggested the company is aiming for a "full day" of use, which is estimated at eight hours.

The iPad is said to achieve 10 hours of web browsing on Wi-Fi, watching video or listening to music, with just an hour drop when browsing via 3G networks. RIM's reluctance to pin down an official figure has been viewed as an indication that the PlayBook's battery will not match the iPad's longevity, however.

Aside from the battery comments, McDowell also noted that the PlayBook will be compatible with 4,000 third-party apps by the March launch.

http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/01/24/company.still.wont.disclose.specifics/

 

[DivideBYZero]

In the 2nd graph, he did both.

Remember his battery life scenarios are without email running etc, as the PlayBook doesn't have quite a few processes the other tablets do...

Also, throw in a radio and the game changes again...

Are the Xoom and iPad2 running email and using a radio in those tests then? No, they are not, you're just full of it. :awe:

 

[Pliablemoose]

Are the Xoom and iPad2 running email and using a radio in those tests then? No, they are not, you're just full of it. :awe:

The 3G equipped iPad lasts 9 hours with the radio turned on.

Assuming similar battery depletion with the PlayBook, you're looking at 6 hours battery life.

Throw in 4G (remember the 4G PlayBook is coming out on Sprint) I'd guess 4-5 hours...

4G radios flipping kill battery life right now...

 

[runawayprisoner]

Are the Xoom and iPad2 running email and using a radio in those tests then? No, they are not, you're just full of it. :awe:

Well, actually, they were.

there's no active email checking in the background (which is present on both the iPads and Xoom in this chart).

Here... in case you somehow skimped the texts.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4266/blackberry-playbook-review/18

 

[DivideBYZero]

The 3G equipped iPad lasts 9 hours with the radio turned on.

Assuming similar battery depletion with the PlayBook, you're looking at 6 hours battery life.

Throw in 4G (remember the 4G PlayBook is coming out on Sprint) I'd guess 4-5 hours...

4G radios flipping kill battery life right now...

Sorry, I didn't see a link to the test results in that post. You making shit up doesn't count.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Well, actually, they were.



Here... in case you somehow skimped the texts.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4266/blackberry-playbook-review/18

Email only, I'll give you that even though there is no mention of frequency and amount, but no radio. Keep up the FUD. :thumbsup:

Anand is very thorough, but was he running the same OS as others when running these tests? How come some have reached almost 12 hours and Anand has only seen 7? All higher ratings are bullshit?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Sorry, I didn't see a link to the test results in that post. You making shit up doesn't count.

When have I ever made shit up?

Assuming a similar discharge pattern of the batteries of the iPad and the Playbook (and I'm being generous, the PlayBook is likely less efficient than the iPad by a bit...) you're looking at 6 hours of battery life, and less on 4G, a lot less...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4225/the-ipad-2-review/6

And from Engadget


Battery Life
RIM BlackBerry PlayBook 7:01
Apple iPad 2 10:26
Apple iPad 9:33
Motorola Xoom 8:20
Dell Streak 7 3:26
Archos 101 7:20
Samsung Galaxy Tab 6:09

 

[DivideBYZero]

You do know the definition of the word 'Assume', right?

Let me help you:

take to be the case or to be true; accept without verification or proof;

 

[Pliablemoose]

You do know the definition of the word 'Assume', right?

Let me help you:

Seems you're not too familiar with the PlayBook or it's competition, DBZ...

 

[DivideBYZero]

Seems you're not too familiar with the PlayBook or it's competition, DBZ...

Oh, do tell us all how much time you've had with the PlayBook...

 

[Pliablemoose]

Oh, do tell us all how much time you've had with the PlayBook...

At least I read the reviews and remember the stats.

Where are the reviews showing 12 hour battery life for the PlayBook?

I seemed to have missed them...

Email only, I'll give you that even though there is no mention of frequency and amount, but no radio. Keep up the FUD. :thumbsup:

Anand is very thorough, but was he running the same OS as others when running these tests? How come some have reached almost 12 hours and Anand has only seen 7? All higher ratings are bullshit?

 

[DivideBYZero]

At least I quote the reviews that suit my point of view and remember the stats.

Where are the reviews showing 12 hour battery life for the PlayBook?

I seemed to have missed them...

Fixed.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Fixed.

DBZ, no one is stopping you from posting links to reviews you like, not me, not the mods, no one...

Battery life also fell short in my tests. With the screen brightness at about 75% and Wi-Fi on, I played a movie I had transferred from a computer over and over until the juice ran out. The PlayBook lasted a bit over five hours, well short of the company’s claim of eight to 10 hours for mixed use. In mixed use, and on a second test of watching video with Wi-Fi off, I did better, over six hours, but well short of the 10 hours on the iPad 2.

http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20110413/rim-blackberry-playbook-review/

Mossberg is pretty objective in my experience.

I am, however, tired of the inaccurate things that have been posted about the PlayBook in this thread.

Typically, when things get to this point, you mumble about a conspiracy against the PlayBook/RIM.

I gotta tell you, there is one, the hedge fund managers are spinning this stuff like crazy, and are going to cause some serious trouble for RIM.

These guys have paid employees post on stock message boards to spin things, Boiler Room style...

 

[DivideBYZero]

In my testing, which ran a video on loop with the display set to 65 percent brightness, WiFi on, the battery lasted nearly 11 hours

You're going to cry about me saying "almost 12" but 11 is nearer 12 than 6 is, now if you're not interested go and post in a thread for something you like, you've stunk this thread up enough.

 

[Pliablemoose]

You're going to cry about me saying "almost 12" but 11 is nearer 12 than 6 is, now if you're not interested go and post in a thread for something you like, you've stunk this thread up enough.

Much as I like Josh, his methodology was not posted, and it's so far off from what everyone else got, I suspect it's inaccurate.

And for the guy that accused me of making stuff up, that's a pretty lame defense on padding the figures DBZ.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Haha, yeah, just discount anything that doesn't suit your agenda. No one is hoodwinked, we know what you are. A bridge must be missing a resident.

 

[WelshBloke]

Pliable, we get that you dont like it.

Could you please try to troll less. (or less obviously)

 

[Pliablemoose]

Pliable, we get that you dont like it.

Could you please try to troll less. (or less obviously)

Posting quotes, links to Anands review, charts and graphs is trolling?

We have very different definitions of trolling.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Haha, yeah, just discount anything that doesn't suit your agenda. No one is hoodwinked, we know what you are. A bridge must be missing a resident.

And you were caught making stuff up to suit your agenda...

12 hours battery life...

WB, I really don't hate the PB, hell, I'll likely buy one in the next year after the thing gets sorted out.

I've already got a couple of tablets, and the idea of tethering for free is a compelling use case for me...

Set that puppy up with an HDMI compatible monitor and a BT keyboard and you're golden. Particularly with a 4G enabled PlayBook.