Plasma TV: only good for HD

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: MaverickBP
panasonic has a 42' model for around $3k. its only EDTV but i swear it looks better than any hdtv plasma.

p.s. enjoy ur burn in :thumbsup:

edit: toned it down some...

burn-in isnt an issue unless you are stupid.

lol burn in is an issue and yes it can be lessened with come common sense. but im sorry. im not spending $3k on a bright lively panel(which is what makes plasmas a plasma besides being thin) and drop it down to below 50% contrast. defeats the purpose. so please dont act like its not an issue and can be fixed easily. because the steps to lessen burn in do just that..lessen it. but it still happens.

then u gotta fix the low life span and repairability issue.

why do you need to lower the contrast? ive never had this issue and ive never had to do that.

i think you suck at operating your TV...thats why you think plasmas suck - because you dont know how to use it. i honestly have never had one burn-in problem, ever. my manual says 50,000 hour lifespan which is more than enough.

if you watched TV for 8 hours a day, 365 days a year, a 50,000 hour plasma would last for just over 17 years. 12 hours a day...a little over 11.4 years. after 11 years you will have a new, better looking TV anyway, but who even watchs TV for 12 hours a day? even 8 hours a day is way more than MOST people. so you are looking at 20+ years out of the TV...id say thats not a short lifespan.

lowering the contrast helps prevent burn in..or did u not know the cause of burn in? how long have u had this tv? ever try owning a plasma in states like colorado(i think it is) where the elevation causes problems with ur plasma?

i dont hate plasmas. they are nice. but got too many issues and shortcomings for the price they charge.

 

[LongCoolMother]

burn in is no longer much of an issue with the newer plasmas. even the guys at avforums dont observe any burn in issues, especially since now all the plasmas have anti-burn in measures. the lifespan of the plasmas are almost all 60,000 hour+ now as well. it has BEEN this way for a long time. opponents of plasma seem to always make the flase claim that plasmas have short lifespans. the truth, however, is that plasmas last as long as LCDs (at least, how they are spec'd)

people generally lower the contrast below factory settings because that is the best setting for them. i like to use avia guide to hometheater and the calibration usually has me set the contrast really low.

the only issue is elevation. some people observe that in high elevation regions, plasma screens emit a buzzing type of sound.

personally, i think plasmas are the best option right now. they are very cheap, have extremely good specs vs LCDs (contrast ratio and size) and have come a long way in making burn in a non issue.

 

[Crucial]

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: irwincur
Plasma and LCD TVs are trash for all signals. They have horrible black levels, color limitations, and for Plasma, burn in issues. With SEDs coming out soon, I would wait if I was to get a thin TV. The only reason the get one of the current thin TVs now is to look cool. SEDs will offer CRT class image quality as well as being thinner and more power efficient than both LCD and PDP.

not all the way true. but mostly.

the panasonic i mentioned above rivals every plasma ive seen in color reproduction and black level performance. the black level is on par with dlp's. id still get a dlp though.
and the big reason i didnt get one if due to burn in, short life span, and non-repairability

www.avsforum.com come see us :thumbsup:

once again, burn in isnt an issue. its never happened to me and ive played halo2 for hours on end...the health and shield bars never stayed burned in - ever. ive also fell asleep with it on a DVD menu and it never burned in then, either. the image was there, not moving, for over 10 hours.

short life span? the lifespans are anywhere from 30,000 to 60,000, and some are even higher. if you think plasmas are bad because of your listed reasons, you need to re-educate yourself because you are very misinformed.

please show me a plasma that has 60,000 hour lifespan. i know theyve been fixing that problem but that would be leaps and bounds for the industry.

ive seen burn in on many models in less time than u think. ive seen display models being used to surf on google for less then 30 mins and i got to watch the google insignia slowly fade off the screen. imagine if it had been on longer. crt's have burn in issues as well but not nearly as bad as a plasma.

and u never debated my repair issue. do u know a place that can refill the gas in the set when the lifespan finally goes? ever try replacing a screen on a plasma after u burnt it in? ever not be able to enjoy a widescreen movie because it came in a different widescreen format and u either had to stretch it to annoying proportions or count the seconds until the movie was over so u can stop putting strain on ur expensive tv?

name the panel u have and please inform urself before you try to debate me on my own turf.

You really are clueless. I own a th-42pwd6uy and I can tell you that I treat my plasma like crap and it has no burn in issues what so ever. I have fallen asleep countless times with a static image on the screen and I have NEVER noticed a retained image. I can watch a widescreen movie that has bars on top and bottom for as long as I like and not have any image retention or "burn in". 4:3 viewed normal with bars on the side? No problems. The TV is used as a HTPC with media center 2005 running on it and I can browse the internet or whatever and I never see image retention.

I have my contrast turned down but its down because the display is properly calibrated.

As for your "repair" BS, there is no replaceable gas in the panels. The panel is a sealed unit and has to be replaced as a whole. The same could be said for an lcd or dlp screen. Do you replace one of the tiny mirrors in your DLP set if something breaks? No the whole unit would have to be replaced. Can you repair a few dead pixels on an LCD TV? No you have to replace the whole panel.

Why don't you stop spewing your fud until you actually own a plasma or have some long term experience with them.

 

[mindmaniac]

Looks like this has turned into a heated debate. I've got to thank everyone, now I'm considering buying a plasma. I was still under the impression that they had bad burn in problems and short life-span. If what I hear is true I'll start doing my research and find myself a good screen.