Plasma TV: only good for HD

[theGlove]

I was looking at plasma tvs at circuit city and Best buy, seems like if they are not using HD then the picture quality is horrible, I mean you if you look at the faces of people it would be blurry.

 

[Qwest]

Plasmas and LCD make regular tv look like garbage.
Long live the tube!

::Me runs away::

 

[MrDudeMan]

you are so wrong. i have a plasma and the quality is perfectly fine HD or ED. you either cant see or have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[Ikonomi]

I don't think showroom TVs are well calibrated.

 

[0roo0roo]

showroom tv's are never well calibrated. does bb send full hd signal to its hdtv or does it use a dvd player?

 

[rawko]

I have a pioneer 50" plasma at my house and the digital cable looks like trash compared to dvds and the digital cable hd content. I don't know if its caused by my cable reception or quality of the plasma though.. I wish i could make it better.

 

[Viperoni]

My Toshiba 51H84C looks bad on anything that's not at least some sort of progressive scan source.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: Ikonomi
I don't think showroom TVs are well calibrated.

Not to mention the signal that all 5000 of them are displaying is a bit diluted.

 

[Pacfanweb]

I have a Samsung 50" DLP that looks fine on digital cable.

It looks awesome with DVD's or HDTV, and if you're trying to compare either of those to regular digital cable, forget it. There is no TV anywhere that can approach DVD or HDTV quality with a regular digital signal.

I will agree that some HDTV's do a better job with digital than others.

 

[lokiju]

This is common for people getting into HD for their first time, its something I went through also.

It does make lower quality standard cable channels look worse, but only because its capable of displaying detail so clearly, thus displaying the flaws in the signal of the standard cable broadcast.

 

[theGlove]

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
you are so wrong. i have a plasma and the quality is perfectly fine HD or ED. you either cant see or have no idea what you are talking about.

let me know when you have something better to say and in regards to SD

 

[IGBT]

..the higher quality capable plasma/lcd's will display the limitations of conventional NTSC..I notice the same thing with my 30" Sceptre lcd..but if I stand back a few more feet it's not bad. But dvd's thru the s-video connector are stunning.

 

[MaverickBP]

panasonic has a 42' model for around $3k. its only EDTV but i swear it looks better than any hdtv plasma.

p.s. enjoy ur burn in :thumbsup:

 

[Goosemaster]

YOU need to get a video processor fool

 

[irwincur]

Plasma and LCD TVs are trash for all signals. They have horrible black levels, color limitations, and for Plasma, burn in issues. With SEDs coming out soon, I would wait if I was to get a thin TV. The only reason the get one of the current thin TVs now is to look cool. SEDs will offer CRT class image quality as well as being thinner and more power efficient than both LCD and PDP.

 

[dxkj]

So I am getting a 46-65" TV soon, are the old projection type crap, they seem to be the sweet spot for the price right now, I would be using them mostly to game/DVD/cable TV (non HD)

 

[TheAdvocate]

Originally posted by: MaverickBP
panasonic has a 42' model for around $3k. its only EDTV but i swear it looks better than any hdtv plasma.

p.s. enjoy ur burn in :thumbsup:

I sound like a broekn record, but Panasonic TH42PWD7UY Review (ED Plasma)

If you havent seen the picture on this thing in person, you cant understand how suprisingly good it is. I've never seen a DVD presentation look so good. Regular broadcast TV isnt bad either.

Edit - BTW, It's only about $1700, sometimes as little as $1,500.

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Plasma and LCD TVs are trash for all signals. They have horrible black levels, color limitations, and for Plasma, burn in issues. With SEDs coming out soon, I would wait if I was to get a thin TV. The only reason the get one of the current thin TVs now is to look cool. SEDs will offer CRT class image quality as well as being thinner and more power efficient than both LCD and PDP.

not all the way true. but mostly.

the panasonic i mentioned above rivals every plasma ive seen in color reproduction and black level performance. the black level is on par with dlp's. id still get a dlp though.
and the big reason i didnt get one if due to burn in, short life span, and non-repairability

www.avsforum.com come see us :thumbsup:

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: TheAdvocate

Originally posted by: MaverickBP
panasonic has a 42' model for around $3k. its only EDTV but i swear it looks better than any hdtv plasma.

p.s. enjoy ur burn in :thumbsup:

I sound like a broekn record, but Panasonic TH42PWD7UY Review (ED Plasma)

If you havent seen the picture on this thing in person, you cant understand how suprisingly good it is. I've never seen a DVD presentation look so good. Regular broadcast TV isnt bad either.

Edit - BTW, It's only about $1700, sometimes as little as $1,500.

the man knows his sh!t. thats it. they have a couple different models off the same panel. some are made for presentations (i.e. stripped down with few connectors) and like that one is made for public(i.e. plenty of connections on back)..and speakers i believe

except for the price. ive never seen it dip lower than the high $2k. if u got links please provide because ill get 2. seriously

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..the higher quality capable plasma/lcd's will display the limitations of conventional NTSC..I notice the same thing with my 30" Sceptre lcd..but if I stand back a few more feet it's not bad. But dvd's thru the s-video connector are stunning.

They'd look a lot better if you used component cables with a 480p DVD player (if your panel has component input)

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: MaverickBP
panasonic has a 42' model for around $3k. its only EDTV but i swear it looks better than any hdtv plasma.

p.s. enjoy ur burn in :thumbsup:

edit: toned it down some...

burn-in isnt an issue unless you are stupid.

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: MaverickBP
panasonic has a 42' model for around $3k. its only EDTV but i swear it looks better than any hdtv plasma.

p.s. enjoy ur burn in :thumbsup:

edit: toned it down some...

burn-in isnt an issue unless you are stupid.

lol burn in is an issue and yes it can be lessened with come common sense. but im sorry. im not spending $3k on a bright lively panel(which is what makes plasmas a plasma besides being thin) and drop it down to below 50% contrast. defeats the purpose. so please dont act like its not an issue and can be fixed easily. because the steps to lessen burn in do just that..lessen it. but it still happens.

then u gotta fix the low life span and repairability issue.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: irwincur
Plasma and LCD TVs are trash for all signals. They have horrible black levels, color limitations, and for Plasma, burn in issues. With SEDs coming out soon, I would wait if I was to get a thin TV. The only reason the get one of the current thin TVs now is to look cool. SEDs will offer CRT class image quality as well as being thinner and more power efficient than both LCD and PDP.

not all the way true. but mostly.

the panasonic i mentioned above rivals every plasma ive seen in color reproduction and black level performance. the black level is on par with dlp's. id still get a dlp though.
and the big reason i didnt get one if due to burn in, short life span, and non-repairability

www.avsforum.com come see us :thumbsup:

once again, burn in isnt an issue. its never happened to me and ive played halo2 for hours on end...the health and shield bars never stayed burned in - ever. ive also fell asleep with it on a DVD menu and it never burned in then, either. the image was there, not moving, for over 10 hours.

short life span? the lifespans are anywhere from 30,000 to 60,000, and some are even higher. if you think plasmas are bad because of your listed reasons, you need to re-educate yourself because you are very misinformed.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: MaverickBP
panasonic has a 42' model for around $3k. its only EDTV but i swear it looks better than any hdtv plasma.

p.s. enjoy ur burn in :thumbsup:

edit: toned it down some...

burn-in isnt an issue unless you are stupid.

lol burn in is an issue and yes it can be lessened with come common sense. but im sorry. im not spending $3k on a bright lively panel(which is what makes plasmas a plasma besides being thin) and drop it down to below 50% contrast. defeats the purpose. so please dont act like its not an issue and can be fixed easily. because the steps to lessen burn in do just that..lessen it. but it still happens.

then u gotta fix the low life span and repairability issue.

why do you need to lower the contrast? ive never had this issue and ive never had to do that.

i think you suck at operating your TV...thats why you think plasmas suck - because you dont know how to use it. i honestly have never had one burn-in problem, ever. my manual says 50,000 hour lifespan which is more than enough.

if you watched TV for 8 hours a day, 365 days a year, a 50,000 hour plasma would last for just over 17 years. 12 hours a day...a little over 11.4 years. after 11 years you will have a new, better looking TV anyway, but who even watchs TV for 12 hours a day? even 8 hours a day is way more than MOST people. so you are looking at 20+ years out of the TV...id say thats not a short lifespan.

 

[MaverickBP]

Originally posted by: Bigsm00th

Originally posted by: MaverickBP

Originally posted by: irwincur
Plasma and LCD TVs are trash for all signals. They have horrible black levels, color limitations, and for Plasma, burn in issues. With SEDs coming out soon, I would wait if I was to get a thin TV. The only reason the get one of the current thin TVs now is to look cool. SEDs will offer CRT class image quality as well as being thinner and more power efficient than both LCD and PDP.

not all the way true. but mostly.

the panasonic i mentioned above rivals every plasma ive seen in color reproduction and black level performance. the black level is on par with dlp's. id still get a dlp though.
and the big reason i didnt get one if due to burn in, short life span, and non-repairability

www.avsforum.com come see us :thumbsup:

once again, burn in isnt an issue. its never happened to me and ive played halo2 for hours on end...the health and shield bars never stayed burned in - ever. ive also fell asleep with it on a DVD menu and it never burned in then, either. the image was there, not moving, for over 10 hours.

short life span? the lifespans are anywhere from 30,000 to 60,000, and some are even higher. if you think plasmas are bad because of your listed reasons, you need to re-educate yourself because you are very misinformed.

please show me a plasma that has 60,000 hour lifespan. i know theyve been fixing that problem but that would be leaps and bounds for the industry.

ive seen burn in on many models in less time than u think. ive seen display models being used to surf on google for less then 30 mins and i got to watch the google insignia slowly fade off the screen. imagine if it had been on longer. crt's have burn in issues as well but not nearly as bad as a plasma.

and u never debated my repair issue. do u know a place that can refill the gas in the set when the lifespan finally goes? ever try replacing a screen on a plasma after u burnt it in? ever not be able to enjoy a widescreen movie because it came in a different widescreen format and u either had to stretch it to annoying proportions or count the seconds until the movie was over so u can stop putting strain on ur expensive tv?

name the panel u have and please inform urself before you try to debate me on my own turf.