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Planning to Overclock

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PimpToad

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This will be my first time building a pc as well as overclocking one. I have read all the guides for overclocking an AMD and just need some tech help.

mobo: cant decide, all the topics confuse me though might go with asus or dfi
processor: athlon 64 venice 3000+
memory: ocz performance series
power: rosewill rp500
OS: dunno, cheap one i guess...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
I believe the DFI will provide you with higher memory voltage if you want to do some serious overclocking. The 3000+ is a good choice for overclocking, but if you expect to get to 2.6-2.8 like a lot of people are getting with San Diego's you'll probably be disappointed. If 2.2-2.4 is fine with you, the 3000+ is a good choice. Can't really go wrong with OCZ memory, they work very closely with users on their support forums. Top knotch tech support in my opinion. I don't know much about Rosewill power supplies, haven't heard anything about them. You might consider one of OCZ's power supplies.
As far as the OS... if you're adventurous, I'd go with WinXP x64. Driver support is pretty good, but there are still some compatability issues and hardware vendors who haven't written 64-bit drivers. If you just want something cheap that works, XP Home would be your only choice unless you're willing to run a Linux distro.
 
So?

mobo😀fi
processor: 3000+venice, not going to overclock much
memory: ocz performance series
power: hmmm OCZ i guess
OS: heh im on a budget so XP Home🙁

I have a $1200 budget to construct a pc; with a monitor, dvd burner, the works.
Can anyone suggest a good computer for a guy with only $1200?
 
I'd say it depends on which video card and cpu you want. I'd recommend an X2 cpu but since they're so expensive right now they might push you over-budget.
 
Heres my recommendation

Antec Perfomance TX640B case with 400w power supply $105

EPOX EP-9NPA Ultra motherboard $105.99

A64 3700+ San Diego w/HSF $324.95

1GB Corsair Value select memory $87.85

Seagate Barracuda 250gb SATA hard drive $121

NEC 3540A DVD Burner $45.99

Fuji Plus FP-988D 19" 12ms LCD Monitor $249.99 after MIR

Windows XP Home SP2 $85.95


This totals $1126.72, add keyboard/mouse and shipping charges and you probably just over $1200. I priced out everything at newegg out of convience, you can shop around and save a few more dollars


Opps! forgot the video card, drop the SD3700+ back to a Venice 3000+ which knocks off $180 and add a 6600GT or X800
 
Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
Heres my recommendation

Antec Perfomance TX640B case with 400w power supply $105

EPOX EP-9NPA Ultra motherboard $105.99

A64 3700+ San Diego w/HSF $324.95

1GB Corsair Value select memory $87.85

Seagate Barracuda 250gb SATA hard drive $121

NEC 3540A DVD Burner $45.99

Fuji Plus FP-988D 19" 12ms LCD Monitor $249.99 after MIR

Windows XP Home SP2 $85.95


This totals $1126.72, add keyboard/mouse and shipping charges and you probably just over $1200. I priced out everything at newegg out of convience, you can shop around and save a few more dollars


Opps! forgot the video card, drop the SD3700+ back to a Venice 3000+ which knocks off $180 and add a 6600GT or X800
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You are my god!
*praises*
 
no video card = bad

These prices are from newegg, I didnt do links 'cause it's too much of a pain. ^^


NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM
$45.99

COOLER MASTER Centurion 530 RC-530-SSN1 Black Aluminum Bezel, ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
$68.99

SAMSUNG SpinPoint P Series SP2004C 200GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA II Hard Drive - OEM
$112.00

EPoX EP-9NPA+Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
$105.99

HIS Hightech P-ICE80XN-2I-ZAM Radeon X800XL 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
$288.00

Rosewill RP550 ATX 550W Power Supply - Retail
$56.99

Patriot 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System
$117.95

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3000BPBOX - Retail
$146.00

Subtotal: $941.91

Still need OS and monitor, so I'd suggest you shave like 100 bucks from the prices above to be able to afford them. I went with the HIS video 'cause it has nice cooling, the spinpoint harddrive 'cause it's very quiet (or at least, very quiet compared to the rest), the rosewill powersupply 'cause it's cheap and seems good. The centurion case 'cause I think it looks cool, heh.
 
hmmm shoouldnt i have some sort of removable media drive or something?
I dont want a floppy drive, so any alternatives?
*im a noob*😛
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
overclocking. The 3000+ is a good choice for overclocking, but if you expect to get to 2.6-2.8 like a lot of people are getting with San Diego's you'll probably be disappointed.
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Are you sure? I have not really looked to see what people were getting with the 3000 venice, but I remember people were getting 2.6-2.8 with winchester, even on the stock cooling.

 
Tell me what you guys think:

mobo: Epox EP-9NPA Ultra

case: Aerocool AEROENGINE C-Class

dvd:NEC Black IDE DVD Burner

HDD:Seagate 250GB Serial ATA150

Keyboard/Mouse:Logitech Cordless Desktop Optical

Memory😱CZ Performance Series (2x512)

Monitor:Samsung 710N 17"

OS:Micro$oft XP Home

PSU:Rosewill RP550 550W

Processor:Athlon 64 3000+ venice

Video:EVGA 6600gt

Total: 1,205.65
Yey I made my budget😀
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I believe the DFI will provide you with higher memory voltage if you want to do some serious overclocking. The 3000+ is a good choice for overclocking, but if you expect to get to 2.6-2.8 like a lot of people are getting with San Diego's you'll probably be disappointed. If 2.2-2.4 is fine with you, the 3000+ is a good choice. Can't really go wrong with OCZ memory, they work very closely with users on their support forums. Top knotch tech support in my opinion. I don't know much about Rosewill power supplies, haven't heard anything about them. You might consider one of OCZ's power supplies.
As far as the OS... if you're adventurous, I'd go with WinXP x64. Driver support is pretty good, but there are still some compatability issues and hardware vendors who haven't written 64-bit drivers. If you just want something cheap that works, XP Home would be your only choice unless you're willing to run a Linux distro.
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Venice 3000+ has some juice in it. I'm running it at 2.7 with Stock HSF atm. Gonna stress test it soon for stability, if not I'll bump it down to 2.6~2.65, voltage is at 1.55v.
 
Originally posted by: cobalt
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I believe the DFI will provide you with higher memory voltage if you want to do some serious overclocking. The 3000+ is a good choice for overclocking, but if you expect to get to 2.6-2.8 like a lot of people are getting with San Diego's you'll probably be disappointed. If 2.2-2.4 is fine with you, the 3000+ is a good choice. Can't really go wrong with OCZ memory, they work very closely with users on their support forums. Top knotch tech support in my opinion. I don't know much about Rosewill power supplies, haven't heard anything about them. You might consider one of OCZ's power supplies.
As far as the OS... if you're adventurous, I'd go with WinXP x64. Driver support is pretty good, but there are still some compatability issues and hardware vendors who haven't written 64-bit drivers. If you just want something cheap that works, XP Home would be your only choice unless you're willing to run a Linux distro.
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Venice 3000+ has some juice in it. I'm running it at 2.7 with Stock HSF atm. Gonna stress test it soon for stability, if not I'll bump it down to 2.6~2.65, voltage is at 1.55v.
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Yeah most AMD64's are pretty nice on stock HSF...makes you wonder why people spend $50 on a Zalman/Thermalright 😛

 
Originally posted by: PimpToad
This will be my first time building a pc as well as overclocking one. I have read all the guides for overclocking an AMD and just need some tech help.

mobo: cant decide, all the topics confuse me though might go with asus or dfi
processor: athlon 64 venice 3000+
memory: ocz performance series
power: rosewill rp500
OS: dunno, cheap one i guess...

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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If you are a Gamer:

  • Mobo: DFI Lanparty NF4 UT-D
    CPU: 3000+ Venice
    VidCard: Powercolor X800XL/PRO or eVGA 6600GT (half price - less performance)
    Memory: OCZ DDR500 VX 2x512MB or Mushkin Redline 2x512MB DDR500
    PSU: Forton Blue Storm 500W

If you want top of the line:
(if you have the money you can go also with a SLI Setup)

  • Mobo: DFI Lanparty NF4 UT-D
    CPU: X2 4800+
    VidCard: eVGA 7800GTX
    Memory: Corsair Ballistix DDR500 2x1GB
    PSU: PC Power & Cooling 510 DELUXE SLI


 
I just put together a system like y'all are talking about. Here's what I went with:

- EPoX EP-9NPA+ SLi Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard
- Athlon64 3000+ Venice core
- XFX 6800GT PCi-E
- 2 gb (1gb stick x 2) of Mushkin value ram
- Thermalright XP-90 CPU cooler, Chieftec case, and X-Connect 500W PS

Total cost was a little less than $900 after a few rebates. Originally I was thinking about going with an nForce4 Ultra motherboard, but I figured for $40 it was worth it to go with an SLI mb. Hopefully in 6-12 months I can plop in another 6800GT and get a decent performance increase.

I was thinking about just trying out the stock AMD heatsink/fan, but I figured it would be more trouble than it was worth if I decided later on to use an aftermarket HSF so I just went with the Thermalright XP-90 and Panaflo fan for about $40 shipped.
 
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