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Question [Planning] New AMD based build for gaming and simulation.

Should I upgrade now ?

  • 1. Now is the best time!

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • 2. Wait till June for the Intel 10th Gen.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3. Wait till October/Nov. for the new AMD 4000 series.

    Votes: 3 50.0%

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x_marX

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Hi folks!
Hope ya'all safe and sound. These are strange times!

On to the task at hand!

I do have a i5 4440+GTX 1060 6GB PC but I fear the upcoming games might be too much of an ask for it. So, I'm planning to upgrade majour components except for my monitor (Dell 1920x1080) and the PSU (Seasonic G550 RM).
But yeah, I know that Intel, AMD and Nvidia are gonna have some majour launches coming up this year. So, need some advice on whether to go ahead with the upgrade (I can wait) or not.


1. Use: Gaming (1080P or 2K max) and engineering simulations (CUDA :( )

2. Budget: $800 USD

3. Country: India.

4. Common PC hardware dealers in india:



5. Brand preference: AMD & Nvidia.

6. Current parts which I would be using:

i. Dell 1920x1080
ii. PSU (Seasonic G550 RM).
iii. Peripherals like keyboard, mouse etc.
iv. Hard disk WD 7200 RPM 1 TB x2 nos.

7. Overclocking: YES!!!

8. Monitor res: Full HD.

9. When do you plan to build it: 3 weeks probably.

10. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software?
No

And yeah, I can hold on to the GTX 1060 for a while as it is still decent for the games I play (Witcher 3, Kingdome Come: Deliverance, Mass Effect: Andromeda, Just Cause 4 etc.).
 
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Markfw

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Well, I tried to get close.
CPU 3700x $300
2 x 8 gig ddr4 3600 $86
ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4S AM4 AMD X570 $140
Corsair MP600 500 gig pcie 4.0 $120

Thats about $650. I would really like to recommend a 2070 or 2070 super but that blows your budget. And those prices are newegg US, you would have to look at your own sites for what you could get them for.
 
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x_marX

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1. My primary use would be gaming. So, an R5 3600 should suffice, right?

2. Which RAM to buy?
I mean there are a lot of them! It gets really confusing like timings vs clock speed, which brand, stability, etc.

3. In my area, it's very difficult to get ASRock products. MSI, Asus, and Gigabyte are the ones that are readily available.

Thanks for the reply BTW.

BTW, this lock-down is having its effects in my company. I just got a huge pay cut!
Not sure if I should upgrade now.

Family comes first!!

Be safe everyone!

Well, I tried to get close.
CPU 3700x $300
2 x 8 gig ddr4 3600 $86
ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4S AM4 AMD X570 $140
Corsair MP600 500 gig pcie 4.0 $120

That's about $650. I would really like to recommend a 2070 or 2070 super but that blows your budget. And those prices are Newegg US, you would have to look at your own sites for what you could get them for.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Given your usage, and that you are mostly a single player gamer, here is my advice - When you have the money, and if there is a decent used market in your part of India, buy a 4770k or 4790k if they are not stupidly priced. Overclock it 4.5GHz+ and it will be fine for gaming, for years to come. The rest of that $800 budget, again, when work is back to normal, I would put into the vid card. 2070 super has almost double the CUDA cores of the 1060 6GB.

And right back at you for staying safe. :beercheers:
 
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x_marX

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Yes, I don't do multiplayer games!

Regarding the 4790K, my motherboard is a B85, no overclocking. So, I need to buy a new motherboard+CPU+CPU Cooler.

Buying 6-year-old used PC components is risky, isn't it?
But yeah, I may be able to save the price of the RAM (as I have the 16GB of DDR3 RAM).
Let's see if I can get a good deal for the 4790K+motherboard.

I might get a 2070/2060 SUPER or the upcoming 3060 later this year (not the 2070 SUPER, it's too costly for me) when everything settles down. But the priority now is saving up money for the CPU+MB+RAM.

Thanks for the reply BTW!


Given your usage, and that you are mostly a single player gamer, here is my advice - When you have the money, and if there is a decent used market in your part of India, buy a 4770k or 4790k if they are not stupidly priced. Overclock it 4.5GHz+ and it will be fine for gaming, for years to come. The rest of that $800 budget, again, when work is back to normal, I would put into the vid card. 2070 super has almost double the CUDA cores of the 1060 6GB.

And right back at you for staying safe. :beercheers:
 
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DAPUNISHER

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You are not wrong about used components coming with risk. And because you say you cannot overclock with your board, then build a Ryzen system. I priced out from Vedant computers that you linked, a Ryzen 2600, B450 motherboard, 16GB of DDR4 3200, 256GB NVME SSD for a boot drive, and 2060 Super, in your budget. I am certain you can save a bit more by shopping around when the time comes. It also seems like from a quick look around on that site, the price hike/mark up for anything beyond that level of hardware is crazy high there.
 

x_marX

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You are not wrong about used components coming with risk. And because you say you cannot overclock with your board, then build a Ryzen system. I priced out from Vedant computers that you linked, a Ryzen 2600, B450 motherboard, 16GB of DDR4 3200, 256GB NVME SSD for a boot drive, and 2060 Super, in your budget. I am certain you can save a bit more by shopping around when the time comes. It also seems like from a quick look around on that site, the price hike/mark up for anything beyond that level of hardware is crazy high there.
Thanks for the recommendation on a possible config.

Swapping out the processor with a 3600 and not getting a graphics card is also a good option, right?
And yeah, what about the B550 motherboard which is supposed to come out in June?

After watching the news, I'm now thinking of waiting until June to make the decision!
There are a lot of variables in that equation like Intel 10th gen, B550 motherboard, Covid 19 lock-down, job security, possible leaks on the AMD Ryzen 3000 series, etc.

What do you guys think?
 

DAPUNISHER

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From reading around, Intel is not really bringing enough to the table unless they significantly reduce pricing for the platform, which I would not hold my breath for. Ryzen 4000 if it brings the IPC increase being speculated about, will be compelling. But again, pricing is important given your budget. Most tech sites still recommend the 1600AF or 2600 and B450, because of the performance per dollar, for those on tighter budgets. If you can squeeze a 3600 in the budget, even better.

Waiting is a smart move though, given the human malware situation creating so much uncertainty. And even if pricing and/or performance is a poor value with the new products, hopefully it will bring down prices on the current stuff. Allowing you to get a bit more performance for the same money.

I voted wait, explanation above.
 
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x_marX

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Sorry for thread necromancy:p

Just wanted to update this thread.

So, the Intel 10th gen is here and its decent. But, as usual, its overpriced.
There are some really sweet deals on the Ryzen R5 3600 appearing now but I'm gonna wait a bit.
I think September gonna be a great time to get new stuff with AMD, Nvidia & Intel releasing/paper launching new stuff.

But yeah, I'll get the ball rolling by upgrading my case with a new "gaming" cabinet.

Its going to be a long wait!
 

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