Planned Parenthood performs more abortions and fewer breast exams

[Riprorin]

Planned Parenthood Doing More Abortions
by Keith Peters, Washington, D.C., correspondent

Group's annual report finds 34 percent of its income came from killing the preborn.

Planned Parenthood is performing more abortions than ever, but it's operating in fewer clinics, according to the abortion provider's annual report for 2004.

But the group is hardly losing money?your tax dollars are ensuring a nice profit.

The Cybercast News Service reported that the organization relied on abortion for 34 percent of its clinic income?up slightly from 2002 and 2003. Staff writer and editor Randy Hall also said 11 Planned Parenthood clinics were shuttered during the fiscal year.

"Some clinics are not generating enough money and enough revenue to keep the organization going," Hall explained. "So they've had to merge clinics or simply shut them down."

Part of the reason is a drop in private donations.

"As a result," Hall said, "they've needed to rely more heavily on government funding."

With Uncle Sam helping out, Hall reported that this is the 18th straight year the group has made a profit. Helen Posvar, a spokeswoman for the Houston Coalition for Life, said that imposes a moral obligation on pro-life taxpayers across the country that they shouldn't have to bear.

"They really need to stop the flow of tax dollars to Planned Parenthood," she said, "because that and the increased abortion numbers and the patient fees that go along with them, that's the only thing that's keeping Planned Parenthood afloat."

The report also shows that while Planned Parenthood increased its number of surgical and chemical abortions, breast exams at its facilities dropped by more than 13 percent.
Additionally, Planned Parenthood's distribution of the so-called "morning-after pill" increased by more than 22 percent in fiscal year 2004.

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I guess breast exams take a back seat to the cash cow.

 

[halik]

"killing the preborn" hahaha nice one, did faux news come up with that ? :roll:

The overall Abortion rates are on a steady decline and so are the number of abortion clinics. I would imagine that economies of scale would apply to abortion clinics much like to everythign else. Either way it's a change in demand rather than supply - as fundie groups try to shut down small clinics, big ones will grow. Welcome to capitalism..

Yay for the morning after pills though, those things should be over the counter anyway

 

[rickn]

the vagina dentist is back

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: halik
"killing the preborn" hahaha nice one, did faux news come up with that ? :roll:

The overall Abortion rates are on a steady decline and so are the number of abortion clinics. I would imagine that economies of scale would apply to abortion clinics much like to everythign else. Either way it's a change in demand rather than supply - as fundie groups try to shut down small clinics, big ones will grow. Welcome to capitalism..

Yay for the morning after pills though, those things should be over the counter anyway

Don't you think that distributing the morning afer pill just encourages promiscuous sexual behavior?

Given that 65 million Americans have incurable STDs, do you think that's a good thing?

 

[SuperTool]

Please ignore this thread. Don't encourage Riprorin. Thanks.

 

[Crimson]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Please ignore this thread. Don't encourage Riprorin. Thanks.

Perhaps you should ignore the thread if you don't like the topic or the poster? Did thread crapping become allowed now or do we have someone in need of a vacation?

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: halik
"killing the preborn" hahaha nice one, did faux news come up with that ? :roll:

The overall Abortion rates are on a steady decline and so are the number of abortion clinics. I would imagine that economies of scale would apply to abortion clinics much like to everythign else. Either way it's a change in demand rather than supply - as fundie groups try to shut down small clinics, big ones will grow. Welcome to capitalism..

Yay for the morning after pills though, those things should be over the counter anyway

Where did you get the idea abortions are on the decline in the USA? That may have been true prior to Bush's election, but there is good evidence abortion rates in the US have been increasing over the past 4 years or so.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Please ignore this thread. Don't encourage Riprorin. Thanks.

oops. just posted in this thread. but you're probably right, these posts from Riprorin are little more than trolling, and indeed are probably best ignored.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Please ignore this thread. Don't encourage Riprorin. Thanks.

Perhaps you should ignore the thread if you don't like the topic or the poster? Did thread crapping become allowed now or do we have someone in need of a vacation?

this thread was crapped before it got a reply :roll:

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: halik
"killing the preborn" hahaha nice one, did faux news come up with that ? :roll:

The overall Abortion rates are on a steady decline and so are the number of abortion clinics. I would imagine that economies of scale would apply to abortion clinics much like to everythign else. Either way it's a change in demand rather than supply - as fundie groups try to shut down small clinics, big ones will grow. Welcome to capitalism..

Yay for the morning after pills though, those things should be over the counter anyway

Where did you get the idea abortions are on the decline in the USA? That may have been true prior to Bush's election, but there is good evidence abortion rates in the US have been increasing over the past 4 years or so.

I wouldn't wanted to raise kids in the world they are trying to create.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Don't you think that distributing the morning afer pill just encourages promiscuous sexual behavior?

oh should these people consult you for permission first before having sex?

 

[umbrella39]

Nice to see you flipping us off Rip and continuing to make new threads instead of sticking them in one. But we already knew you thought you and your posts were more important than anyone elses. Hell, God told you so, right? Grow up. :roll:

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: halik
"killing the preborn" hahaha nice one, did faux news come up with that ? :roll:

The overall Abortion rates are on a steady decline and so are the number of abortion clinics. I would imagine that economies of scale would apply to abortion clinics much like to everythign else. Either way it's a change in demand rather than supply - as fundie groups try to shut down small clinics, big ones will grow. Welcome to capitalism..

Yay for the morning after pills though, those things should be over the counter anyway

Don't you think that distributing the morning afer pill just encourages promiscuous sexual behavior?

Given that 65 million Americans have incurable STDs, do you think that's a good thing?

No it does not.

I am sexually active and the women i have intercourse with are on the pill and i use condoms. I've had a condom break...it happens sometimes...
We decided that she should take the pill the day after. she got it within a few hours of having sex.
our decision to have sex was not based on the morning after pill...this is not an encouraging thing but a last ditch precaution...only to be used once in a blue moon.
or all the times my friends and i have had sex since uni (100's of times) 2 have requored the morning after pill.

No matter waht you think...people DONT LIKE GETTING PREGNANT!!...no matter waht you say on this forum or anyhting you do will not stop a woman from not having a kid they dont want. They will abort it one way or another...i thank god that doctors help these women...

I think more should be done on the contraceptives side...this will be the ONLY reason abortions will decline.
you have such a thwarted mind of how people think...
i just can't believe it!

if you were smart you'd figure out why abortions occured and quit advocating their ban...

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: Stunt
if you were smart you'd figure out why abortions occured and quit advocating their ban...

If you thought about it a little, maybe you'd realize why some people advocate their ban. Thinking is what smart people like you do, isn't it? Or do you just spend all your time trying to denigrate those who disagree with you?

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Stunt
if you were smart you'd figure out why abortions occured and quit advocating their ban...

If you thought about it a little, maybe you'd realize why some people advocate their ban. Thinking is what smart people like you do, isn't it? Or do you just spend all your time trying to denigrate those who disagree with you?

I'd like to think of myself as smart, but I still can't understand why some people advocate a ban on contraceptives.. Of course it's not clear that the OP is talking about them given you snipped the context, but I'll assume that was an accident.

Sure there are plenty of reasons to be upset by and oppose abortion, but I can't think of any non-fundamentalist or literalist reasons for opposing contraceptives. If, by chance, you *were* suggesting that advocating a ban on contraceptives was reasonable, I would be interested in your reasoning.

 

[dgevert]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Stunt
if you were smart you'd figure out why abortions occured and quit advocating their ban...

If you thought about it a little, maybe you'd realize why some people advocate their ban. Thinking is what smart people like you do, isn't it? Or do you just spend all your time trying to denigrate those who disagree with you?

Check yourself, hypocrite, before accusing others of your own sins.

 

[BlueKit]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

If you thought about it a little, maybe you'd realize why some people advocate their ban. Thinking is what smart people like you do, isn't it? Or do you just spend all your time trying to denigrate those who disagree with you?

Could it be because they want to be judge & jury in the name of God. Everyone needs to mind their own business and let the decision be up to those concerned.

 

[KidViciou$]

rip, can you please stop quoting biased sources? i just hovered over the link, saw family.org, and knew it was tarnished

 

[wylecoyote]

Rip.

You failed to answer the argument I presented against the last article you copy and pasted on here. If you'd like to answer it now, it can be found at the end of the thread you started entitled "What Planned Parenthood did for my youth".

You once again post an article from a far right-wing Christian site citing an incredibly biased and unscholarly site. This is laughable. This is absolutely not worth anyone's time.

And to reiterate once again, you ran away from the argument I presented you with when you posted your last inane, biased bullsh!t. Did you not have anything to respond with after I debased and debunked everything you said? After every statistic you posted (from some radical religious site), I counter-posted with statistics from reputable, non-religious/partisan, scholarly sources such as the American Public Health Association and the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

You have nothing to back up your claims. You post and run, and you're entrenched stance on all the doctrinal BS that you've been fed is sad.

Please, if you listen to nothing else, listen to this... what you do here on the forums is in fact hurting your cause. You are making people angry. Listen Rip. You are defeating yourself.

Indeed, if you want me to utterly and totally destroy the article you just posted by addressing each of the points it's hollow and asinine rhetoric addresses, just say the word.

I will rip it apart the way I did your last one.


See signature below.

 

[biostud]

I don't see any problems. Except that it isn't 100% governmental funded
Except this funny thing:

"With Uncle Sam helping out, Hall reported that this is the 18th straight year the group has made a profit. Helen Posvar, a spokeswoman for the Houston Coalition for Life, said that imposes a moral obligation on pro-life taxpayers across the country that they shouldn't have to bear."

with all tax spending there will always be someone who think they're spend wrong. Anti death penalty, pacifists, environmentalists, etc. That's how democracy works, the majority decides what the money should be spend on.

And for all those attacking rips posts, I think it's pretty annoying to read about how he always posts crappy articles, we all know more or less what to expect, so I don't need others to constantly remind me. Attack the article and those who published it, personally I think it's nice to know how some people watch the world different than me, even though I find their views medieval.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: halik
"killing the preborn" hahaha nice one, did faux news come up with that ? :roll:

The overall Abortion rates are on a steady decline and so are the number of abortion clinics. I would imagine that economies of scale would apply to abortion clinics much like to everythign else. Either way it's a change in demand rather than supply - as fundie groups try to shut down small clinics, big ones will grow. Welcome to capitalism..

Yay for the morning after pills though, those things should be over the counter anyway

Don't you think that distributing the morning afer pill just encourages promiscuous sexual behavior?

Given that 65 million Americans have incurable STDs, do you think that's a good thing?

no on both.
and what stds? im not trying to say herpes isnt a big deal...but it sort of isnt. and while genital warts can be a big deal, many of the people that suffer from them are not suffering at all. BUT that sort of detracts from what im trying to say: i think your posts on this thread bring up some good points but from my perspective they are looking in the wrong direction as to how to go about finding solutions.
it occurs to me that the main problem with getting STDs isnt this encouraged promiscuity (but perhaps you and i have different veiws on what that would entail. im thinking id have to be sleeping with a large number of people. like a couple dozen. i have no idea what you would consider promiscuous) but rather the lack of education and the aura of shame surrounding these problems and sexual behavior in general in this country and the lack of proper education. obviously, not having sex prevents pregnancy and STDs (in most cases. although simply not having vaginal intercourse does not assume one is having zero sexual contact)
i also think that it is disturbing that the number of abortions have gone up but its not really PPs fault for that, is it? id like to see research done as to why the number has increased.

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: halik
"killing the preborn" hahaha nice one, did faux news come up with that ? :roll:

The overall Abortion rates are on a steady decline and so are the number of abortion clinics. I would imagine that economies of scale would apply to abortion clinics much like to everythign else. Either way it's a change in demand rather than supply - as fundie groups try to shut down small clinics, big ones will grow. Welcome to capitalism..

Yay for the morning after pills though, those things should be over the counter anyway

Don't you think that distributing the morning afer pill just encourages promiscuous sexual behavior?

Given that 65 million Americans have incurable STDs, do you think that's a good thing?

Bzzzzzzzzzzt. Wrong. Thanks for playing.

This is worth a related read while we're at it.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Crimson

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Please ignore this thread. Don't encourage Riprorin. Thanks.

Perhaps you should ignore the thread if you don't like the topic or the poster? Did thread crapping become allowed now or do we have someone in need of a vacation?

this thread was crapped before it got a reply :roll:

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