Planetary and atomic movement: Old and busted = Gravity; New hotness = solar wind

[glenn1]

Somehow I doubt old Mr. Newton is going to be overturned by the "More than Gravity Theory" quite that easily. Worse yet, I own stock in the company run by one of the authors (Ecology and Environment, ticker symbol EEI). I'm trying to resist the urge to place an immediate "sell at market" order since I like the company and its financials although I now realize the CEO is likely a crackpot. On the other hand, there's an (extremely remote) chance he may be one of the greatest scientific minds in history.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/theory-challenges-existing-beliefs-gravity-140000163.html


New Theory Challenges Existing Beliefs About Gravity, Positioning Solar Winds as the Force That Moves Planets, Governs Atomic Movement and Creates Gravitational Force

LANCASTER, N.Y., Feb. 26, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- A new theory on the forces that control planetary orbit refutes the 400-year old assumptions currently held by the scientific community. Scientific and engineering experts Gerhard and Kevin Neumaier have established a relationship between solar winds and a quantized order in both the position and velocity of the solar system's planets, and movement at an atomic level, with both governed by the same set of physics.

The observations made bring into question the Big Bang Theory, the concept of black holes, gravitational waves and gravitons. The Neumaiers' paper, More Than Gravity, is available for review at MoreThanGravity.com

The theory is based on the following underlying principles:

The physical mechanism that moves the planets is the solar wind, imparting position and direction to their orbits, and governing all of the moons in the solar system in locked orbits that rotate with the planets.

The solar wind is responsible for the natural arrangement of the planets and the quantization at the atomic level, reestablishing the link between the solar system and atom. Based on observations, the same order and set of forces that work in our solar system also apply to the atom. Because the solar wind affects all matter on earth, it naturally describes quantum mechanics – the inner workings of the atom.

The planets are positioned in a quantized order based on a simple equation that accurately predicts the velocity and position of planetary orbits and distances from the Sun.

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[bignateyk]

Well the universe is only 6000 years old, so I was never really buying that whole Big Bang Theory and magical invisible force called gravity anyway.

 

[sornywrx]

So are they saying that Einstein is wrong too?

 

[SagaLore]

I somehow doubt that solar wind is responsible for matter falling in on itself and forming large planetary bodies. :hmm:

 

[SunnyD]

I somehow doubt that solar wind is responsible for matter falling in on itself and forming large planetary bodies. :hmm:

Or more importantly, I doubt that solar wind is responsible for interstellar gasses in the vacuum of interstellar space to coalesce into large enough nebulae and form shock waves intense enough to ignite nuclear fusion to form the star at the heart of a fledgling planetary system in the first place.

 

[Agent11]

Am I correct in reading that as saying that this guy believes solar wind is responsible for behavior at an atomic scale? If that was the case wouldn't things be very differently at that scale within the sphere of influence of stars with different characteristics than our own? That sounds very implausible to me... And how does he account for the insanely attractive, yet dark and small objects we know are at the center of most galaxies?

This doesn't pass the smell test. It's not too late to sell before he starts talking again.

 

[Jaepheth]

Am I correct in reading that as saying that this guy believes solar wind is responsible for behavior at an atomic scale? If that was the case wouldn't things be very differently at that scale within the sphere of influence of stars with different characteristics than our own? That sounds very implausible to me... And how does he account for the insanely attractive, yet dark and small objects we know are at the center of most galaxies?

This doesn't pass the smell test. It's not too late to sell before he starts talking again.

Also... wouldn't any experiment's results vary wildly depending on the time of day it's conducted?

 

[Gibsons]

The solar wind is responsible for atomic level quantum effect? So any matter beyond the heliopause would act very differently.

Sell.

 

[SSSnail]

Troll him to jump of a tall building, and may his solar wind be with him.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Where's cold fusion boy when you need him?

 

[ImpulsE69]

I believe him. I mean, if solar winds can be the reason gas prices jump all over.....

 

[JTsyo]

There might be a misunderstanding here. Is it saying that the current orbits of the planets are not solely due to gravity but also solar wind? Otherwise it doesn't make sense since the solar wind pushes out while orbits need a acceleration towards the center.

Electrons orbit atoms at fixed distances since they are also a wave. In other orbits they interfere with themselves.

 

[silverpig]

This is so stupid.

We can measure the emission and absorption spectra of atoms in other solar systems with completely different stars that have completely different solar winds. They're the same atoms as we have here on earth.

There are just so many things wrong with this I don't know where to begin.

 

[phucheneh]

So why do moons orbit planets, again? Why does shit fall when we drop it?

We've gotten too good at predicting the mechanics of celestial bodies to not know what the hell is going on. When humanity has been wrong about something of this nature, there are generally indications of it.

General relativity solved riddles. Just like earlier revelations did- e.g. we saw Mars and the fucked-up way it zig-zagged across the night sky, and couldn't understand why it acted to so differently than stars...then, viola! It's a planet, and it's orbiting the same thing we do, but at a different rate. Mystery solved.

But there's no mystery here. Solar winds and gravity are both pretty well-understood.

 

[sandorski]

Sounds highly suspect. Wouldn't this make every Solar System somewhat unique depending on the type of Star at the heart of it? Meaning, that each Solar System would have unique Physical properties, with its' own Laws of Physics and other fundamental properties?

I ain't no Scientist, but this has the stench of Creationist flailing against Science.