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Midwayman

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Granted this only effects the rear doors, so I don't think it's that huge of a thing.. lets face it, if you own a Tesla Model X ($50,000+ vehicle) and are parking it in the street you probably deserve some inconveniences for your poor fiscal decisions. Garage or GTFO applies nicely here.

Not everyone drives from garaged location to garaged location. Even parking at work is often open lots.
 

Virge_

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Not everyone drives from garaged location to garaged location. Even parking at work is often open lots.

Yes - but how many people do you think truly park at work all day while carrying 4+ passengers to and from work? I'm simply stating the number of people who would really be effected by this negatively in the real world is laughably minimal - especially when the Model X doors were designed so they could be opened and used easily with rain falling on-top of you.
 

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Yes - but how many people do you think truly park at work all day while carrying 4+ passengers to and from work? I'm simply stating the number of people who would really be effected by this negatively in the real world is laughably minimal - especially when the Model X doors were designed so they could be opened and used easily with rain falling on-top of you.

I guess, I use the back doors/seats more often than most people. When going out shopping by myself for with my better half, I usually put the bags in the rear seats (only in the trunk during summer).

I also have 2 young kids. They ride in the back seat.

I personally think that even a slightest compromise on the use of the rear door/rear seats in an SUV is silly. In fact, I took the rear seat off completely on my 2 door Jeep Wrangler because the darn thing is so inconvenient to use, I treat the car as a 2 door fun ride vehicle.
 

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I guess, I use the back doors/seats more often than most people. When going out shopping by myself for with my better half, I usually put the bags in the rear seats (only in the trunk during summer).

I also have 2 young kids. They ride in the back seat.

I personally think that even a slightest compromise on the use of the rear door/rear seats in an SUV is silly. In fact, I took the rear seat off completely on my 2 door Jeep Wrangler because the darn thing is so inconvenient to use, I treat the car as a 2 door fun ride vehicle.

Ok, I appreciate this - but it doesn't answer my question about how often someone is leaving their car in a parking lot long enough (see: full work day) for it to be covered in snow WHILE they also have 4+ passengers.

I can think of one time that might have happened to me in 5 years. I'd suggest most people will never have that problem. My point is this is an unreasonable situation to try and use as a legitimate negative. It's like saying the paint might eventually fade in the sunlight so you shouldn't buy the car.
 

Midwayman

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Ok, I appreciate this - but it doesn't answer my question about how often someone is leaving their car in a parking lot long enough (see: full work day) for it to be covered in snow WHILE they also have 4+ passengers.

I don't know where you live, but I can go to see a movie and have that happen to me. Doesn't take long some places.
 

Topweasel

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I don't know where you live, but I can go to see a movie and have that happen to me. Doesn't take long some places.

Yeah obviously the post has never dealt with a real winter. Sometimes i have to brush snow off my car three times a day, when i get up, when I go to lunch, and before i head home.
 

Virge_

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Yeah obviously the post has never dealt with a real winter. Sometimes i have to brush snow off my car three times a day, when i get up, when I go to lunch, and before i head home.

I know this is going to sound arrogant - but what kind of job does one have where they make the kind of money that allows them to afford a Tesla but doesn't give them a covered parking option? Serious question.

Even in these situations where covered parking ISN'T an option, most of the guys I know who drive expensive cars to work (Luxury, Porche, etc..) will make sure they park somewhere covered.

I live in the midwest. We get a LOT of snow, but we get even more hail. My car has always had either covered parking or the option for me to pay for it, for every job I've ever had here.
 

MixMasterTang

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I know this is going to sound arrogant - but what kind of job does one have where they make the kind of money that allows them to afford a Tesla but doesn't give them a covered parking option? Serious question.

Even in these situations where covered parking ISN'T an option, most of the guys I know who drive expensive cars to work (Luxury, Porche, etc..) will make sure they park somewhere covered.

I live in the midwest. We get a LOT of snow, but we get even more hail. My car has always had either covered parking or the option for me to pay for it, for every job I've ever had here.

I live and work in the Midwest, the company I work for has 4 different areas of the city where they have buildings (probably 15 or 16) total buildings for 10,000 employees and only 2 of those buildings have covered parking available. No crazy exotics, but a few GTR's, Mercedes S-Classes, a few Tesla's, Ranger Rovers, etc. that people all park outside.
 

Midwayman

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I live in the midwest. We get a LOT of snow, but we get even more hail. My car has always had either covered parking or the option for me to pay for it, for every job I've ever had here.

I live there too. Covered parking is only really downtown in garages or if you work in some of the large corporate parks near the city. Smaller places have open lots and as you get into the burbs every large corporate places are mostly open lots. IE covered lots are the exception to the rule outside of downtown.
 

Virge_

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I live there too. Covered parking is only really downtown in garages or if you work in some of the large corporate parks near the city. Smaller places have open lots and as you get into the burbs every large corporate places are mostly open lots. IE covered lots are the exception to the rule outside of downtown.

I've worked in half a dozen buildings between downtown and far-West. Each and every single one had either a parking garage attached to the building, or covered parking in the basement. I've never seen someone leaving an expensive car out on a lot unless it's specifically the car they drive only on sunny days with zero weather. That's fine, but we're trying to make a realistic comparison here to a car you drive every single day regardless of weather. I don't see expensive cars left out in the snow. The Tesla is an expensive car.

Personally, I don't have the time to watch the weather each day to decide which car to drive to work. I have real shit to do with my time.

It would appear to me that we work for different caliber of organizations. I don't know any high-earning professionals with expensive cars parked in a lot in the snow. Not a single one. They bring the beater car that day.
 

Topweasel

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In the subburbs where the real money is not ever building has external parking and at just over 100k the X isn't going to be a "unattainable" car. Specially as an SUV where some people would have a regular winter vehicle and then the summer fun car, the X is going to be a decent all year round option.

I can tell you in Michigan unless you work downtown Detroit finding a place that has a covered parking garage in close enough walking distance is extremely rare. In Novi where I work I doubt I could be challenged to find one public garage and probably could come up with maybe two large locations with a covered garage.

I can tell you here that in the last 3 years I have seen several Cayenne's covered in snow. Again the biggest issue isn't the cost, or even the doors themselves, it's putting those doors on SUV. Your thinking is also whacked. That 100k car used to be this rare bird. That was Ferrari money, that was 911 Turbo money. Now its that really nice sometimes sporty car money. Around here much more of them are driven year round even with our winters than you would think.