Piyush Jindal makes me sad

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Darwin333

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And Obama's response, in which no one even knew who was in charge (BP or the Coast Guard) did better? Oh please oh please ask me to show how much money they wasted and how many bullshit political games were played. I will have to start looking for the pics of people "cleaning up the oil" in brand new shiny white boots when Obama came in for a visit and then got bused back out literally within hours of Obama leaving.

Oooh, how about the federal regulators getting hookers and blow from the people they were regulating? Thousands upon thousands of workers doing jack shit but walking around and fucking off day after day (but it looked really good for photo ops and 45 sec commercials)? The CG recalling vessels that Louisiana built themselves to suck oil out of the marshes because the CG forgot to check to make sure they had enough life jackets on them (instead of maybe sending a small fast boat out to check them at sea)? The emergency response that BP had previously presented to the Feds? Refusing resources that would have actually made a difference?

You literally could not dream of a more fucked up uncoordinated response then what happened but sand berms that would have been there to rebuild our eroding coast line and would have been a buffer to both the oil AND hurricanes had the Feds not been fucking Louisiana out of royalty sharing that it deserves (and almost every other state gets) is your only point?
 

werepossum

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So your vote is based upon a viewpoint that is completely irrelevant concerning what they can actually do once they are elected?

And Jindal did sign a sort of controversial piece of legislation that opens the door for creationism to be taught in public schools (ironically my daughters Catholic school does not teach that in science class).

Just to be clear, ignoring science and supporting the teaching of religion in science class is a non-issue to you but abortion, something that will not be changed regardless of which politician is elected, is a deciding factor???? Foe real dawg?

BTW, I really like Jindal but I have the same issues with him that some have pointed out in this thread. Even with those issues he is probably one of the best Governors in Louisiana's history (so far, plenty of time for him to fuck that up with his reelection already in the bag).
"One of the best Governors in Louisiana's history" is much akin to "one of the hottest chicks on the East German Olympic shot put team." You guys don't set the bar real high.

And here in Tennessee, we thank you for that. Sometimes our governors can't clear a bar much higher than a shadow.
 

Nebor

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And Obama's response, in which no one even knew who was in charge (BP or the Coast Guard) did better? Oh please oh please ask me to show how much money they wasted and how many bullshit political games were played. I will have to start looking for the pics of people "cleaning up the oil" in brand new shiny white boots when Obama came in for a visit and then got bused back out literally within hours of Obama leaving.

Oooh, how about the federal regulators getting hookers and blow from the people they were regulating? Thousands upon thousands of workers doing jack shit but walking around and fucking off day after day (but it looked really good for photo ops and 45 sec commercials)? The CG recalling vessels that Louisiana built themselves to suck oil out of the marshes because the CG forgot to check to make sure they had enough life jackets on them (instead of maybe sending a small fast boat out to check them at sea)? The emergency response that BP had previously presented to the Feds? Refusing resources that would have actually made a difference?

You literally could not dream of a more fucked up uncoordinated response then what happened but sand berms that would have been there to rebuild our eroding coast line and would have been a buffer to both the oil AND hurricanes had the Feds not been fucking Louisiana out of royalty sharing that it deserves (and almost every other state gets) is your only point?

The oil spill took up a ton of news coverage on Sky news while I was in Afghanistan. All the European officers asked me why it was such a big deal, I said, "I don't know." They said, "you don't hear much about Louisiana since you bought it from the French," I said, "Because no one likes it."

But hey, people in Louisiana seem to love fried seafood. It seems like the oil spill would have just cut a step out of the preparation process. :D
 

Fern

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I don't know much about either Jindal or Perry., but I don't see how anyone can be surprised, or sad, that he endorses Perry.

From what others here have posted, Jindal is a creationist like Perry. I don't think that view is pertinent or relevant to politics, but Jindal seems to be supporting Perry because he believes he can win and his record on jobs while TX governor.

I think Jindal only has two options, Perry or Romney.

Would the OP be happy if Jindal supported Romney?

(BTW: Why not refer to him as Bobby Jindal? I've never heard him referred to by "Piyush".)

Fern
 

Darwin333

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"One of the best Governors in Louisiana's history" is much akin to "one of the hottest chicks on the East German Olympic shot put team." You guys don't set the bar real high.

And here in Tennessee, we thank you for that. Sometimes our governors can't clear a bar much higher than a shadow.

LOL. Thats kinda why I said it but touche my friend, touche.

Edit: That is also why I said he has plenty of time to fuck it up. It would be real friggen hard to fuck up the "ranking" he currently has as far as Louisiana governors go but hey, its still Louisiana...
 
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Svnla

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(BTW: Why not refer to him as Bobby Jindal? I've never heard him referred to by "Piyush".)

Fern

Bobby is his Americanized name. His real name is Piyush, his background is Indian (as in Asia and not native American), his parents were very smart (Engineers IIRC) and his wife was a smart cookie too (PhD) and not bad looking.

"One of the best Governors in Louisiana's history" is much akin to "one of the hottest chicks on the East German Olympic shot put team." You guys don't set the bar real high..

After "clueless and crying" Blanco, "convict felon and in prison" Fast Eddie, "good ole hunting country boy" Mike Foster, and so on as Governors, would you blame them folks in Louisiana?

Don't let me start with scumbag policians such as "cold hard cash" Jefferson, "in prison due to corruption" insurance commissioners (yes, plural, as in several of them, not just one or two).
 
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her209

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Probably still better than Obama's plan of going to play golf? At least the Gov showed some interest in trying to protect his state. Obama was more interested in playing the crisis for everything it was worth.
He should have gone golfing and said "Fuck off Bobby!"

Drill, baby, drill.
 

trenchfoot

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Sure, but he goes by another name. This is like people who refer to Barack Obama as Barack Hussein Obama.

Well, seeing as if Barak's nickname is Barry and he never uses it in any capacity outside of Hawaii and Piyush prefers to use his nickname as a somewhat "official" moniker, I'd say not quite the same. However, I do think your point has some merit.:)
 
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ichy

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Sure, but he goes by another name. This is like people who refer to Barack Obama as Barack Hussein Obama.

Part of the reason I like to call him Piyush is to annoy the crowd that kept on saying Barack Hussein Obama (or even worse, B. Hussein Obama.)

I also have a distaste for these Indian-American politicians from the South who feel the need to make pseudo-conversions to Christianity to appease their state's redneck voters. Nikki Haley is the worst example, she even still attends Sikh services but feels the need to identify as Christian because voters in South Carolina wouldn't vote for her otherwise.
 

Braznor

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Jindal is a sellout. He will sell America the first chance he gets if it meant benefits for him.
 

Atreus21

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So your vote is based upon a viewpoint that is completely irrelevant concerning what they can actually do once they are elected?

And Jindal did sign a sort of controversial piece of legislation that opens the door for creationism to be taught in public schools (ironically my daughters Catholic school does not teach that in science class).

Just to be clear, ignoring science and supporting the teaching of religion in science class is a non-issue to you but abortion, something that will not be changed regardless of which politician is elected, is a deciding factor???? Foe real dawg?

BTW, I really like Jindal but I have the same issues with him that some have pointed out in this thread. Even with those issues he is probably one of the best Governors in Louisiana's history (so far, plenty of time for him to fuck that up with his reelection already in the bag).

I went to Catholic schools in New Orleans from K-12 and I never encountered creationism in science class. I concede the point that it belongs in religion or philosophy.

Leftists are to creationists what I am to abortionists. They say, "no one who could believe such nonsense could possibly make a good leader." I say no different, but about abortion. If your position is that killing your own offspring in the name of convenience is acceptable, I can't in good conscience vote for you. No other issue, no matter how practical, can take precedence over that.

Furthermore, I find it amusing when I get derided by the left for being a "single-issue voter" when this forum is replete with examples of liberals bemoaning how every creationist candidate would be disastrous in office sheerly because of their creationist beliefs.

As far as your comment that it will never be changed regardless of the politician, similar words were spoken about slavery.
 
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Nebor

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Leftists are to creationists what I am to abortionists. They say, "no one who could believe such nonsense could possibly make a good leader." I say no different, but about abortion. If your position is that killing your own offspring in the name of convenience is acceptable, I can't in good conscience vote for you. No other issue, no matter how practical, can take precedence over that.

So what if the candidate only supports other peoples' right to kill their offspring for convenience, but would never do so themselves?
 

ichy

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Leftists are to creationists what I am to abortionists. They say, "no one who could believe such nonsense could possibly make a good leader."

I'm not a leftist, I'm a rationalist. I hate anti-vaccers just as much as I hate creationists. Andrew Wakefield is the moral equivalent of Ted Bundy as far as I'm concerned.
 

Atreus21

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So what if the candidate only supports other peoples' right to kill their offspring for convenience, but would never do so themselves?

I'm frankly not sure whether or not you're being sarcastic but no. I couldn't support that candidate either.
 

Atreus21

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I'm not a leftist, I'm a rationalist. I hate anti-vaccers just as much as I hate creationists. Andrew Wakefield is the moral equivalent of Ted Bundy as far as I'm concerned.

Anti-vaccer? You mean those who take a dim view of vaccines?

If so, I agree with you. That's a retarded position. But I think being a moron who discredits vaccinations and spreads lies and idiocy is pretty tame in comparison to a serial killer/rapist.
 

ichy

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Anti-vaccer? You mean those who take a dim view of vaccines?

If so, I agree with you. That's a retarded position. But I think being a moron who discredits vaccinations and spreads lies and idiocy is pretty tame in comparison to a serial killer/rapist.

Andrew Wakefield's lies have claimed/will claim far more lives than any individual serial killer ever has. If he was just an idiot who designed a bad study that would be one thing, but he went beyond that and fabricated fraudulent data in his attempt to discredit one of the greatest life-saving advances in human history. He isn't just a fool, he is evil. If it were up to me he would be executed.
 

werepossum

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LOL. Thats kinda why I said it but touche my friend, touche.

Edit: That is also why I said he has plenty of time to fuck it up. It would be real friggen hard to fuck up the "ranking" he currently has as far as Louisiana governors go but hey, its still Louisiana...
We have had in recent years one governor who went to prison for outright selling pardons and another who campaigned on being against a state income tax (which is against our state constitution) but lobbied hard for one behind the scenes, closed national parks in districts of politicians against a state income tax (even though the loss in federal funds exceeded what the state spends) to punish them, then tried to institute a state income tax by calling it a "right to work" tax.

We don't set the bar very high either. LOL

Bobby is his Americanized name. His real name is Piyush, his background is Indian (as in Asia and not native American), his parents were very smart (Engineers IIRC) and his wife was a smart cookie too (PhD) and not bad looking.



After "clueless and crying" Blanco, "convict felon and in prison" Fast Eddie, "good ole hunting country boy" Mike Foster, and so on as Governors, would you blame them folks in Louisiana?

Don't let me start with scumbag policians such as "cold hard cash" Jefferson, "in prison due to corruption" insurance commissioners (yes, plural, as in several of them, not just one or two).
Yes, Louisiana has certainly had its share of corrupt politicians.

Personally I like Jindal and I have no problem with someone calling him by his actual name - as long as that person has no problem with us calling Barack Hussein Obama by his real name. Fair is fair.
 

Atreus21

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Andrew Wakefield's lies have claimed/will claim far more lives than any individual serial killer ever has. If he was just an idiot who designed a bad study that would be one thing, but he went beyond that and fabricated fraudulent data in his attempt to discredit one of the greatest life-saving advances in human history. He isn't just a fool, he is evil. If it were up to me he would be executed.

I'm sorry, but I don't agree that indirectly contributing to someone's death carries the same consequence as walking up to someone and murdering them.
 

Nebor

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I'm sorry, but I don't agree that indirectly contributing to someone's death carries the same consequence as walking up to someone and murdering them.

And I don't agree that walking up to a contributing member of society and murdering them is the same as vacuuming a leech's brain out while it's still in the uterus.