Pitiful actions on the part of these British soldiers

mrSHEiK124

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http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news1.shtml

Copy/pasted for those who can't get to the site, and because its not a permenant link (news1, news2, etc. the second they post a new article it'll change)

EXCLUSIVE BRUTAL & BRITISH:


Exposed.. squad of British soldiers beat teenage Iraqis and shame their country

SHAMED BY 42 BRAINLESS BLOWS

By Robert Kellaway

TODAY we expose a rogue squad of British soldiers who savagely attacked a defenceless bunch of Iraqi teenagers ?and with 42 brutal blows brought shame on our nation and its proud army.
The horrifying scenes on these pages will shock the world and ignite a huge military scandal.
They were captured on a secret home video ? apparently filmed for "fun" by a corporal?and show at least eight of his hulking comrades cruelly:
DRAGGING four weedy rioters?all apparently in their early teens?off the street and behind the high walls of a secluded army compound,
BEATING them senseless with vicious blows from batons, boots and fists,
IGNORING their pitiful pleas for mercy, until the incident climaxes with what appears to be an NCO delivering a sickening full-force kick in the genitals of a cringeing lad pinned to the ground.
All the while the callous cameraman delivers a stomach-churning commentary urging his mates on, cackling with laughter and screaming: "Oh yes! Oh yes! You're gonna get it. Yes, naughty little boys! You little f***ers, you little f***ers. DIE! Ha, ha!"

Insult

The video?later shown to the corporal's pals at their home base in Europe?was exposed to the News of the World by a disgusted whistleblower.
He told us the unit and regiment involved but for security reasons we are not publishing the details.
Our informant said: "These Iraqis were just kids. Most haven't even got shoes on.
"Those eight soldiers were pumped up and out of control. They're an insult to the thousands of soldiers who have worked so hard in Iraq with courage and dignity for so long.
"They're nothing but a gang of thugs, a disgrace to themselves, their regiment and country."
The cowardly beating is believed to have taken place in early 2004 amid a series of street riots in southern Iraq. Troops were involved in running battles with hundreds of screaming demonstrators armed with stones, sticks, shovels and home-made grenades.
The atmosphere and tension comes across vividly in the video, believed to have been shot from a rooftop within the troops' HQ compound. The muzzle of an Army SA80 rifle laid on its side is visible in the foreground.
A DIY grenade lands and explodes inside the compound?blasting out shrapnel and a cloud of grey-white smoke. A fire blazes just outside the perimeter wall sending up a pall of black fumes as crowds of rioters chant abuse at the soldiers. Dozens of youths run towards the compound hurling stones, but suddenly turn on their heels?chased by a unit of squaddies in combat helmets with riot visors and desert camouflage. Some of the soldiers are wearing flak vests and are armed with batons and rifles.
A crackling radio message to the troops pinpoints a target: "Black top, blue bottoms! Black top, blue bottoms! GO!"
The camera then cuts to eight soldiers returning with four prisoners, gripped in headlocks. The squad march their captives to the compound gate and drag them inside?out of sight from the rioters outside. Then the horror begins.
PRISONER 1 is hauled in wearing a dark blue T-shirt, blue jeans and white trainers?the only victim not in bare feet.
His captor releases the headlock, stands him up and?with combat helmet on and visor down?lands a crushing head butt. He rips the youngster's T-shirt over his head and smashes his right fist twice into his kidneys and once into his head.
In panic the terrified captive desperately clings to the lanyard of the soldier's baton in an attempt to stop it being used on him.
His pitiful cries of "No! Please!" are clearly heard. But the mocking commentator merely puts on a childlike voice and mimics his Iraqi accent: "No, pleeese?don't hurt me."
Another soldier grabs the lad by the neck and hurls him to the floor to be kicked and beaten again. The head-butt soldier then raises his baton and brings it crashing down on him.
PRISONER 2, in blue T-shirt and grey trousers, is marched in, gripped by the shoulder. His captor forces him to the ground and hits him about the body and legs with his baton.
As he unleashes ten blows the boy twists and squirms around the soldier's ankles trying to save himself. A soldier in a floppy hat?not part of the snatch squad?looks on. He is clearly unsure of what to do but does not look alarmed or make any attempt to stop the beating.
Instead he helps fix plastic restraining ties on the lad's wrists. Another burly soldier, in desert camouflage and webbing belt with water bottle attached, strides up and whacks the Iraqi's backside with a baton. The prisoner's feet jerk in agony before he appears to pass out, a dark patch that looks like blood around his head. Meanwhile PRISONER 3, in white T-shirt and jeans, is booted in the back and body six times by two soldiers.
As he struggles on the floor one squaddie grabs him by the shoulder, kicks him twice and cracks him about the legs and bare feet with his baton.
PRISONER 4, barefoot in light blue T-shirt with beige trousers, is beaten before being picked bodily off the ground like a sack of potatoes, dumped on his chest and held with his arms up his back by two of the squad.
One soldier, identified by our source as a sergeant, walks up behind him and kicks him hard between the legs from behind.
The boy's body arches in pain and the soldier behind the camera is heard poking fun and groaning: "Oorrgghh!"
As another squad troop past and take no notice a soldier's voice is heard to scream: "In the f***ing head!"
The beating sequence on the video, which appears to be a series of excerpts from the incident, takes up 60 seconds of the 3minute 12second tape. Our investigators counted 42 separate blows but there were probably many more not caught on camera.
The video also has two other shocking sequences. In one, the camera approaches an Iraqi corpse while a soldier draws back a blanket to display it as a sickening trophy.

Sniggers

The cameraman then commits an act considered the ultimate insult to an Iraqi?and kicks the dead man twice in the face, humiliating him in death. As the head of the man, aged in his 20s, is lifted to face the lens a soldier sniggers: "He's been a bad mother****er."
Another scene shows an Iraqi man grabbed by three soldiers and forced to kneel behind a wall where he is kicked hard in the chest.
The video came to light following the unit's return home. Our source was horrified when he saw it and vowed the tape MUST be made public to force the army to clamp down on the abuse of prisoners?and protect the reputations of more than 80,000 dedicated British troops?including 101 killed and 230 injured?who have served in Iraq since the start of the second Gulf war.
He told us: "I'm sure those Iraqis weren't innocent little boys?I bet they'd all been slinging rocks and maybe even explosives. But that's no excuse for a beating like that.
"The ringleader was supposed to be a senior sergeant. Instead of reeling the lads in and calming them down, he was in the thick of it, urging them on. He even kicked that boy straight in the b***s with two other soldiers twice the lad's size holding him face down.
"That's sick. You could understand some terrified 19-year-old private losing it. But that's what NCOs are for?to lead and set an example."

Last night we handed our dossier of evidence to the Ministry of Defence. A Military Police investigation is now under way.
 

jumpr

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Originally posted by: RyanSengara
Take it to P&N, but I'll top it off with this.

Your thread title is hypocritical, assuming you're American.
Why? Because all Americans condone prisoner abuse?

Unnecessary force and torture are pitiful in any culture. Actions like those depicted above are universally despicable - it doesn't matter what nationality you are.
 

envy me

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I hope they all die a painful death during a car bomb.

Oh wait, they were probably justified. I mean, these protestors had rocks. Come on.

 

1EZduzit

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The cowardly beating is believed to have taken place in early 2004 amid a series of street riots in southern Iraq. Troops were involved in running battles with hundreds of screaming demonstrators armed with stones, sticks, shovels and home-made grenades.

Damn dirty apes!
 

spherrod

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Terrible actions if true, but I seem to remember the last time a UK paper published photos of abuse they turned out to be fake.

If they are true, then hopefully the promised inquiry will be transparent and detailed with appropriate punishments handed out to those responsible. There can never be any justification for those kind of acts.
 

palehorse

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These soldiers definately made some mistakes, and should be punished accordingly; but, I also find it disgusting that ANY of you should judge them for it since I seriously doubt that any of your pogue a$$es have ever been in combat.

You have no idea what it's like...

One of these days I'd like to see how you react when your buddies get blown all to hell every other day, all around you, and die in your arms; and then I'd like to see what YOU do when you manage to get your hands on some of the guys who did it! It takes a very strong man to resist the urges to beat them senseless. In this case, they had a few moments of extreme weakness. Even so, none of YOU should even BEGIN to judge them for it. Let the military courts, and perhaps even their Gods, do the judging.

f'n pogues.
 

her209

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
One of these days I'd like to see how you react when your buddies get blown all to hell every other day, all around you, and die in your arms; and then I'd like to see what YOU do when you manage to get your hands on some of the guys who did it! It takes a very strong man to resist the urges to beat them senseless.
Yeah, those guys just woke up one day and said to themselves, "What the hell? What am I doing in British uniform and what the f am I doing in Iraq?"
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: palehorse74
One of these days I'd like to see how you react when your buddies get blown all to hell every other day, all around you, and die in your arms; and then I'd like to see what YOU do when you manage to get your hands on some of the guys who did it! It takes a very strong man to resist the urges to beat them senseless.
Yeah, those guys just woke up one day and said to themselves, "What the hell? What am I doing in British uniform and what the f am I doing in Iraq?"

Yeah, like nobody has mental problems over death and destruction if they volunteered. :roll:
 

jpeyton

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winning their hearts and minds

Thank you Mr. Boosh and Mr. Blair for freeing the Iraqis :roll:
 

judasmachine

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See the Muslims need to protest this stuff, and not cartoons. Our Western sensebilities would understand a tab bit better.
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
See the Muslims need to protest this stuff, and not cartoons. Our Western sensebilities would understand a tab bit better.

Protesting does nothing. Look at the US. They have "protest" zones, protestors get harassed, and taken to jail for wearing offensive shirts.

Good for them.. At least they are brave enough to fight for their rights/beleifs, instead of being hearded like cattle into little zones to wave posters around and complain.

You can't invade a country that did nothing wrong and expect the people to cooperate with you.

If these marines invaded my country I would fight them off as well not feel the least bit bad for killing any of them either.