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Eli

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Originally posted by: zinfamous

This re-iterates my point more than it supports a pit bull ban:

1. why limit the ban on pit-bulls? according to this, there are at least 3 other breeds that must be banned...not to mention their mixes. how many breeds would that include? sounds like any mix of pitt, Rott, Presa Canarios. ...

2. again...DEFINE Pit Bull. What we know as the pit bull is not a pure breed by any stretch of the imagination. there are at least 30-40 breeds commonly known as "pit bull."

Also, I think this is one of the main studies used in Gladwell's article, and refuted, or at least properly examined by his "dog bite expert."
I will agree with the sentiment of the article, hasty resolutions are not the solution.

There isn't a whole lot that will convince me that pit bulls, all 30-40 breeds of them as you say, aren't dangerous.

I do not want an animal that can be fine for years and then decide it wants to eat a neighbors baby. ;)
 
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
So just because we don't own one we should have no negative opinion of the breed?

Shit, people on this board are quick to put down toy poodles, but have they ever owned one?
I've owned poodles and pits, as well as german shepards, labs, and rotties. My current dog is a pit.

Pit are, by far, THE most intelligent dog one can own. And that's the real problem. Most pit owners don't have the first clue how to raise, train, or discipline a pit. They take a lot of work but a are well worth it. Unfortunately too many stupid people own pits purely as ststus symbols and don't invest the time to raise/train them properly. It's sad because pits are the best dog of all when raised properly.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
So just because we don't own one we should have no negative opinion of the breed?

Shit, people on this board are quick to put down toy poodles, but have they ever owned one?
I've owned poodles and pits, as well as german shepards, labs, and rotties. My current dog is a pit.

Pit are, by far, THE most intelligent dog one can own. And that's the real problem. Most pit owners don't have the first clue how to raise, train, or discipline a pit. They take a lot of work but a are well worth it. Unfortunately too many stupid people own pits purely as ststus symbols and don't invest the time to raise/train them properly. It's sad because pits are the best dog of all when raised properly.
Pitts aren't listed on any list I've read as more intelligent than those breeds.

Collies, Poodles, and Shepards top the intelligence list.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: zinfamous
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See my edit. I read the article. Doesn't change the fact that Pit Bulls were bred to fight and other facts of the paragraph I quoted.

So what? Have you ever owned a pit? Own a dog? Have you gathered your set in stone opinion by some article you read on the internet or what the glorious media states?

in fact, I think you've gathered your opinion by what the "glorious media" states, as that message is always negative concerning pit bulls.

I once thought as illogically as you about this issue.

Then I read more articles like this one, and realized that the numbers simply don't hold up to the reporting when you examine them realistically.

This is an article published in the New Yorker. Not "some article on the internet."
It is written by Malcolm Gladwell, who has also written The Tipping Point and Blink, highly critically-acclaimed compendiums of his work. Had you actually read the article, you probably would have examined the source, no? Or is this a typical example of your editorial prowess?

It's posts like this that convince me that you have not read the article, rather than nitpick certain segments taken out of context.

You know, I tend to agree with you a lot on these forums, Eli. So, I'm quite surprised that you can appear so obtuse when it comes to this issue. Hell, I've even witnessed many people change their opinions over this issue after going through these pitbull piss-fests over the years...

Did you read preslove's post?

I don't want to condemn pitbulls. I'm a dog lover, but they scare the bejesus out of me, and I don't think I'm being irrational with my fear.

honestly, they scare the bejesus out of me, too.

In personal experience, though, I've been more terrified of Rottweilers. One incident, when I was quite young (5-7), my dad's pal had a few Rottweilers. They would constantly chase me around. I was perfect prey.

Hell, just this last summer, a Rottweiler bit me in the neck and mouth. He was trained as a real guard dog, and I hadn't known that. I knew he was aggressive, even though he had recently shown that he was comfortable around me. I was an idiot, though, and got too close at the wrong time....

as for "Pit Bulls," I've known a handful. Buddies in college had two, all were darling, happy dogs. Never hurt a fly. Hell, a buddy of mine adopted a troubled one from the shelter in Chicago just before he moved back to NC. I agreed to help him move (ride in Uhaul), which included a trip with this junkyard-raised, abused, and anxiety-ridden Pitt-Rott mix (imagine the head of a Rottweiler on the body of a Pitt, brindled)

This dog would be fine one moment, in his corner of the van, allow you to pet him, then suddenly freak out. Growl a bit, as a warning, and if you didn't stop petting, snap. He lashed at us a few times on the 12-hour trip, though neither of us were bitten. Honestly, the dog probably should have been put down, but my pal felt that he could take care of him. Latest I've heard is that dog, and neighborhood kids are still in all their pieces.

I had several dogs growing up. One, we adopted ~6 months old. A mutt. Within 2 years, this "dog" stood about 4 feet at the shoulders, long black hair, and a freaking MANE, with red-tipped fur. This thing was terrifying....but never went after anyone. I was smaller than this dog, and was always a little afraid of him, but I was also comfortable around him.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: preslove

Those statistics don't prove anything and are not scientific. Also, they don't even take into account the relative risk of dog bites. A Pit Bull mauls you and you can die. A terrier? You MIGHT get a couple stitches. Labs don't kill people. Period. End of fucking story.


That's a completely ridiculous statement and it makes you look like a fool. Do you honestly believe that nobody has been killed by a lab?

Let's see:

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zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: zinfamous

This re-iterates my point more than it supports a pit bull ban:

1. why limit the ban on pit-bulls? according to this, there are at least 3 other breeds that must be banned...not to mention their mixes. how many breeds would that include? sounds like any mix of pitt, Rott, Presa Canarios. ...

2. again...DEFINE Pit Bull. What we know as the pit bull is not a pure breed by any stretch of the imagination. there are at least 30-40 breeds commonly known as "pit bull."

Also, I think this is one of the main studies used in Gladwell's article, and refuted, or at least properly examined by his "dog bite expert."
I will agree with the sentiment of the article, hasty resolutions are not the solution.

There isn't a whole lot that will convince me that pit bulls, all 30-40 breeds of them as you say, aren't dangerous.

I do not want an animal that can be fine for years and then decide it wants to eat a neighbors baby. ;)

I, too, think that pitts are dangerous. I also believe that they really aren't anymore dangerous, under full examination, than a large number of other breeds.

Once you ban pitt bulls, dobermans become popular again, or Rotts. Now we have tons of Rott or doberman attacks in the news.

Honestly, owners need to be banned. I don't see why you can't classify certain breeds as "dangerous" and require prospective owners to pass an ownership test, perhaps pay a fee, to own these dogs.

I mean, isn't this the same as the right-wing yahoo's gun argument? "Ban the pitt, and only criminals will have pitts! Then who will protect us?!"

C'mon...don't make me be the right-wing nut in this :p
 
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
So just because we don't own one we should have no negative opinion of the breed?

Shit, people on this board are quick to put down toy poodles, but have they ever owned one?
I've owned poodles and pits, as well as german shepards, labs, and rotties. My current dog is a pit.

Pit are, by far, THE most intelligent dog one can own. And that's the real problem. Most pit owners don't have the first clue how to raise, train, or discipline a pit. They take a lot of work but a are well worth it. Unfortunately too many stupid people own pits purely as ststus symbols and don't invest the time to raise/train them properly. It's sad because pits are the best dog of all when raised properly.
Pitts aren't listed on any list I've read as more intelligent than those breeds.

Collies, Poodles, and Shepards top the intelligence list.
Well how can anyone who has actually owned many of those breeds of dog argue against a list on the internet?

I submit.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
So just because we don't own one we should have no negative opinion of the breed?

Shit, people on this board are quick to put down toy poodles, but have they ever owned one?
I've owned poodles and pits, as well as german shepards, labs, and rotties. My current dog is a pit.

Pit are, by far, THE most intelligent dog one can own. And that's the real problem. Most pit owners don't have the first clue how to raise, train, or discipline a pit. They take a lot of work but a are well worth it. Unfortunately too many stupid people own pits purely as ststus symbols and don't invest the time to raise/train them properly. It's sad because pits are the best dog of all when raised properly.
Pitts aren't listed on any list I've read as more intelligent than those breeds.

Collies, Poodles, and Shepards top the intelligence list.
Well how can anyone who has actually owned many of those breeds of dog argue against a list on the internet?

I submit.
Yeh, ta hell with studies and research. We'll go with your findings.
 
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
So just because we don't own one we should have no negative opinion of the breed?

Shit, people on this board are quick to put down toy poodles, but have they ever owned one?
I've owned poodles and pits, as well as german shepards, labs, and rotties. My current dog is a pit.

Pit are, by far, THE most intelligent dog one can own. And that's the real problem. Most pit owners don't have the first clue how to raise, train, or discipline a pit. They take a lot of work but a are well worth it. Unfortunately too many stupid people own pits purely as ststus symbols and don't invest the time to raise/train them properly. It's sad because pits are the best dog of all when raised properly.
Pitts aren't listed on any list I've read as more intelligent than those breeds.

Collies, Poodles, and Shepards top the intelligence list.
Well how can anyone who has actually owned many of those breeds of dog argue against a list on the internet?

I submit.
Yeh, ta hell with studies and research. We'll go with your findings.
Of course. If it's on the internet, it must be true. Fuck experience.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
So just because we don't own one we should have no negative opinion of the breed?

Shit, people on this board are quick to put down toy poodles, but have they ever owned one?
I've owned poodles and pits, as well as german shepards, labs, and rotties. My current dog is a pit.

Pit are, by far, THE most intelligent dog one can own. And that's the real problem. Most pit owners don't have the first clue how to raise, train, or discipline a pit. They take a lot of work but a are well worth it. Unfortunately too many stupid people own pits purely as ststus symbols and don't invest the time to raise/train them properly. It's sad because pits are the best dog of all when raised properly.
Pitts aren't listed on any list I've read as more intelligent than those breeds.

Collies, Poodles, and Shepards top the intelligence list.
Well how can anyone who has actually owned many of those breeds of dog argue against a list on the internet?

I submit.
Yeh, ta hell with studies and research. We'll go with your findings.

and again, I submit that all of the studies and research, the actual bite and attack data, when properly put into context, actually show that Pitts are no more dangerous to humans than are St Bernards, Dobermans, Rotts, Chows, etc.

This is a qualitative argument. the Problem is, the media is quick to jump on irrational, simple quantitative claims. The quantified argument, as presented through selective media reports, never takes into consideration trends in breed popularity, which highly influences breed-to-human ratios. Pit bulls are more dangerous when there are more pit bulls. Rotts are more dangerous when there are more Rotts. Dobermans are more dangerous when there are more dobermans.

and so on

and so on....
 

SampSon

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
Due to my experiences of being maimed and having my life threatened by a pitbull, I see no reason why I would ever own one.

I have very good reason to have extremely negative views about pitbulls.

My friend has a pitbull, actually two of them do, but I haven't seen one of them in years. Both dogs are generally well behaved and act like normal docile dogs. Though I am always on guard around them (or the one I see on a regular basis). I simply do not trust the dog, I look into its eyes and see something there.
 

CKent

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
Due to my experiences of being maimed and having my life threatened by a pitbull, I see no reason why I would ever own one.

I have very good reason to have extremely negative views about pitbulls.

My friend has a pitbull, actually two of them do, but I haven't seen one of them in years. Both dogs are generally well behaved and act like normal docile dogs. Though I am always on guard around them (or the one I see on a regular basis). I simply do not trust the dog, I look into its eyes and see something there.

You admit it yourself, it made you biased.
 

BudAshes

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If it was up to me the owner would go to prison. They are his responsibility so he should pay the consequences.
 

BudAshes

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
So just because we don't own one we should have no negative opinion of the breed?

Shit, people on this board are quick to put down toy poodles, but have they ever owned one?
I've owned poodles and pits, as well as german shepards, labs, and rotties. My current dog is a pit.

Pit are, by far, THE most intelligent dog one can own. And that's the real problem. Most pit owners don't have the first clue how to raise, train, or discipline a pit. They take a lot of work but a are well worth it. Unfortunately too many stupid people own pits purely as ststus symbols and don't invest the time to raise/train them properly. It's sad because pits are the best dog of all when raised properly.
Pitts aren't listed on any list I've read as more intelligent than those breeds.

Collies, Poodles, and Shepards top the intelligence list.
Well how can anyone who has actually owned many of those breeds of dog argue against a list on the internet?

I submit.

Hahah.

Anyway i've known more than a few pitbulls and too say they are extremely intelligent is a huge overstatement. What they are is insanely loyal and tenacious. So you can teach them almost anything, but it is not because they are particularly smart.
 

Capt Caveman

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Poor woman. Hope for a swift recovery.

100% the dog owners fault. Why the fuck were his dogs off-leash out in public? I would never allow my dogs free like that for fear of them getting hit by a car or getting stolen.
 

SlickSnake

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Had a pit bull situation on our city last month. Cops went to a scene for some reason, and the damn thing jumped a 4 foot chain link fence and tried to attack the officer and he shot and killed it. Now I think they are going to pass an ordinance against attack or fighting dogs in this city. Unfortunately it takes an accident to make a city get responsible about attack dogs when the owners won't properly control them behind a 6 foot fence or on a chain.

Just sent this news link to the mayor pro tem, thanks for posting this, OP.
 

SampSon

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Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
Due to my experiences of being maimed and having my life threatened by a pitbull, I see no reason why I would ever own one.

I have very good reason to have extremely negative views about pitbulls.

My friend has a pitbull, actually two of them do, but I haven't seen one of them in years. Both dogs are generally well behaved and act like normal docile dogs. Though I am always on guard around them (or the one I see on a regular basis). I simply do not trust the dog, I look into its eyes and see something there.

You admit it yourself, it made you biased.
How can I not be biased? I have had very little experience that would lead be to believe anything different.

I've basically been backed into a corner by my friends pitbulls, but they stood down after called off. That wasn't very reassuring about the nature of that animal.

Sure I believe that any dog can be good or bad with the proper training, or lack thereof. Though a quick search on pro-pitbull sites reflects handling instructions that show the dog to be very high maintenence with warnings to rarely leave the dog unattended in social situations and keep steadfast on the obedience training.

I suppose a pitbull can be compared to a high power sports car. It has high potential in the hands of responsible and trained individuals, but is highly dangerous to many others if utilized or treated even slightly the wrong way.

I see no point to the breed, but I don't care to ban it and I don't care if anyone owns one. Though if that dog does me or my family harm, I'm going to personally kill it and then pursue all legal actions possible.
 
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Originally posted by: BudAshes
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
So just because we don't own one we should have no negative opinion of the breed?

Shit, people on this board are quick to put down toy poodles, but have they ever owned one?
I've owned poodles and pits, as well as german shepards, labs, and rotties. My current dog is a pit.

Pit are, by far, THE most intelligent dog one can own. And that's the real problem. Most pit owners don't have the first clue how to raise, train, or discipline a pit. They take a lot of work but a are well worth it. Unfortunately too many stupid people own pits purely as ststus symbols and don't invest the time to raise/train them properly. It's sad because pits are the best dog of all when raised properly.
Pitts aren't listed on any list I've read as more intelligent than those breeds.

Collies, Poodles, and Shepards top the intelligence list.
Well how can anyone who has actually owned many of those breeds of dog argue against a list on the internet?

I submit.

Hahah.

Anyway i've known more than a few pitbulls and too say they are extremely intelligent is a huge overstatement. What they are is insanely loyal and tenacious. So you can teach them almost anything, but it is not because they are particularly smart.
I agree. Pits are loyal and tenacious. That doesn't preclude them from being extremely smart though, which they are. The problem is that people have to be smarter than their dog, and that's occassionally not the case. Not to mention that pits require a domineering owner. Then again, most dogs do. At the risk of sounding Caesar Millan-ish, you have to know how to dominate your dog or they'll run roughshod over you, no matter the breed.
 

CKent

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
If it was up to me the owner would go to prison. They are his responsibility so he should pay the consequences.

5 years, at least. As well as covering the full costs of the woman's surgery, a thousand hours community service at an animal shelter and permanently barred from owning pets due to demonstration of incompetence.

But this is America. He'll get a slap on the wrist while we lock up real criminals, like drug users.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Originally posted by: SampSon
I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that have actually been attacked by a pitbull.

I'd like to see a poll of people on this forum that actually have owned a Pit. Judging by pics in past posts of their animals, I would guess a very small portion.
Due to my experiences of being maimed and having my life threatened by a pitbull, I see no reason why I would ever own one.

I have very good reason to have extremely negative views about pitbulls.

My friend has a pitbull, actually two of them do, but I haven't seen one of them in years. Both dogs are generally well behaved and act like normal docile dogs. Though I am always on guard around them (or the one I see on a regular basis). I simply do not trust the dog, I look into its eyes and see something there.

You admit it yourself, it made you biased.
How can I not be biased? I have had very little experience that would lead be to believe anything different.

I've basically been backed into a corner by my friends pitbulls, but they stood down after called off. That wasn't very reassuring about the nature of that animal.

Sure I believe that any dog can be good or bad with the proper training, or lack thereof. Though a quick search on pro-pitbull sites reflects handling instructions that show the dog to be very high maintenence with warnings to rarely leave the dog unattended in social situations and keep steadfast on the obedience training.

I suppose a pitbull can be compared to a high power sports car. It has high potential in the hands of responsible and trained individuals, but is highly dangerous to many others if utilized or treated even slightly the wrong way.

I see no point to the breed, but I don't care to ban it and I don't care if anyone owns one. Though if that dog does me or my family harm, I'm going to personally kill it and then pursue all legal actions possible.

I have the same experience with Rotts as you do with Pitts. Yet, I think they are awesome dogs and don't feel that the experiences of the few (mine), should have such drastic influence on the experiences of the many...especially when such experiences run counter to the actual facts.


I guess we're in agreement, then? .....
 

SlickSnake

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I had a pit bull as a puppy that was found abandoned at a mall I owned a business at. I took it home, and raised it as a normal dog with 2 other dogs in my backyard. One was an Irish setter, the other was a retired police dog and a German Shepard mix. That pit bull was as strong as an ox, and completely dominated the other 2 dogs, even though as it was growing up, the other 2 dogs were already full grown.

Just before I moved from that house, into a smaller apartment, I had to get rid of the dogs. My mom was going to take the 2 sane dogs, and just before she did, the Irish setter disappeared from my backyard with a 6 foot locked fence around it. I think the pitt bull caused it to jump onto a small shed, and over the fence one day while I was at work, because I could see no other way it got out on its own. Then I tried to get rid of the pit bull for about 3 months, and found no takers. It would take old 6 foot fence boards I had stacked in the yard and want me to play fetch with them, LOL. When it got into it with the other dogs, I had to go out in the yard, and smack it on the butt with a straw broom. It hated that broom. Finally I had to surrender it to the animal control guys to euthanasia it. They refused to handle it at all, and sat in the truck and made me lift it and place it in the cage myself, which wasn't easy, that thing was huge. I felt pretty bad about it, but I could not get anyone to adopt it, and had no choice. It was about 4 years old.

Although I never mistreated the dog, other than to stop it from fighting with the other 2 dogs, it scared the hell out of me. Even when I petted it, which was often, I was never far from the broom in case it turned on me. Most people who have attack dogs do not train them, and encourage the bad aggressive behavior and just taunt the dogs for no reason. Then when the dogs attack someone, they act stupid after the fact and pretend how great the dog was, when they know damn well they tormented the dogs to that point. So the vast majority of fighting dog owners are aware what a menace their dogs are, and never try to train the dogs or really domesticate them, and even refuse to fix them just to ensure they will be as aggressive as possible. Which is why they should be regulated in all city environments.
 

zerocool84

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http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html

I love my pitbull. It is a really nice dog and had never attacked anyone not putting it in danger. They are just very territorial dogs and protective of their owners. They are strong dogs. My dog barks fairly loudly and aggressive when the neighbors cut their backyard lawn.
 

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Le spent more than 10 hours in surgery Monday at the trauma center at Harborview Medical Center, where surgeons worked painstakingly to preserve her hearing and reattach her ears, both of which had been ripped from her head, Makus said. Her jaw was broken and her right arm and wrist were crushed beyond complete repair, he said.

Her scalp is covered with staples and her legs have deep, raw wounds that cannot be completely closed because physicians fear trapping infection inside, Makus said.

"This was not a dog bite, it was attempted dismemberment," Makus said Tuesday. "There is no way to describe the savagery and carnage."
It won't be very long until pit bulls will be banned from cities just like other exotic, dangerous animals.

I say good-riddens, and if one even attempted to lunge at me or my loved ones, their owner would be picking bits of doggie brain matter off their lawn.
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Le spent more than 10 hours in surgery Monday at the trauma center at Harborview Medical Center, where surgeons worked painstakingly to preserve her hearing and reattach her ears, both of which had been ripped from her head, Makus said. Her jaw was broken and her right arm and wrist were crushed beyond complete repair, he said.

Her scalp is covered with staples and her legs have deep, raw wounds that cannot be completely closed because physicians fear trapping infection inside, Makus said.

"This was not a dog bite, it was attempted dismemberment," Makus said Tuesday. "There is no way to describe the savagery and carnage."
It won't be very long until pit bulls will be banned from cities just like other exotic, dangerous animals.

I say good-riddens, and if one even attempted to lunge at me or my loved ones, their owner would be picking bits of doggie brain matter off their lawn.

Ignorant

Originally posted by: zerocool84
http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html

I love my pitbull. It is a really nice dog and had never attacked anyone not putting it in danger. They are just very territorial dogs and protective of their owners. They are strong dogs. My dog barks fairly loudly and aggressive when the neighbors cut their backyard lawn.

What dog doesn't though?
 

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The breeds most often involved in fatal attacks are Rottweilers and Pit bulls.
In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.
From 1979 to 1998, at least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in bite related deaths. Pit Bulls and Rottweilers were involved in more than 50 percent of these incidences.
In a study reported by a retired professor from California State University at Chino, Robert Plum, it was found that one dog in 55 will bite someone seriously during the course of a year. With respect to breed differences in the tendency to inflict serious injury, Plumb estimates that when a pit bull bites a human, one in 16 (e.g. 1/16) will inflict serious injury; this contrasts with a ratio of 1/296 Dobermans, and 1/156 German shepherds.
http://www.dogexpert.com/Dog%2...DogBiteStatistics.html