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I'd been using the 115gr. 9mm Remmington value packs from Wally World. However I heard that they're not very good round and are very dirty.

I'd been told that 124gr (under the impression Euro guns are made for a hotter load) FMJ Geco rounds are good, so I bought a few hundred of them. I haven't shot them yet, but I probably will next week.

What kinds of rounds do you use for target practice?
 
Remington ammo dirty? I've shot their .44 Magnum rounds through my S&W model 629 and it isn't any dirtier than any other decent factory ammo I've shot. I think you are misinformed.

Never heard of Geco ammo. Where is it sold? There are hot rounds for any loading. They just cost more. For punching holes in a piece of paper you are wasting your money.
 
There is nothing dirty about Winchester ammo (which is what my WalMart sells in the value packs), which is my primary choice for target shooting. My local range sells Fiocchi FMJ as target ammo - it's more fun to shoot, because it is noticeably hotter than the Winchester stuff, but it is much grubbier.
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Remington ammo dirty? I've shot their .44 Magnum rounds through my S&W model 629 and it isn't any dirtier than any other decent factory ammo I've shot. I think you are misinformed. Never heard of Geco ammo. Where is it sold? There are hot rounds for any loading. They just cost more. For punching holes in a piece of paper you are wasting your money.
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The Gecos are made in Germany and I found them at natchez. They're just about the same price per 100 as the Winchester (I mis-spoke before).

Not all Winchester is dirty, but I was told the value boxes are.
 
I like the Fiocchi ammo as well but I can usually find cheaper range ammo in PMC or American Eagle ammo and it is just as reliable. When it's on sale I'll take over all else though.
 
Originally posted by: BDawg

Not all Winchester is dirty, but I was told the value boxes are.
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I've heard rumors about the white box Winchester being dirty, but IMO this is a function of dummied-up negative press by local gun stores. I can't see Winchester reformulating and making lesser ammo for a contract with Wal-Mart - I think the low price is just an economy-of-scale issue, and I certainly have never found it dirty. Even if it were true, the Tenifer finish on my Glock will never care about a little dirt.

 
Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Remington ammo dirty? I've shot their .44 Magnum rounds through my S&W model 629 and it isn't any dirtier than any other decent factory ammo I've shot. I think you are misinformed. Never heard of Geco ammo. Where is it sold? There are hot rounds for any loading. They just cost more. For punching holes in a piece of paper you are wasting your money.
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The Gecos are made in Germany and I found them at natchez. They're just about the same price per 100 as the Winchester (I mis-spoke before).

Not all Winchester is dirty, but I was told the value boxes are.
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Okay...that makes sense, I don't recall ever seeing Remington 9mm ammo at Wal Mart. I've bought plenty of Remington .44 Mag ammo though and it is top notch.

I haven't shot any of the Winchester ammo other than 20 and 12 gauge shot shells so I cannot comment on it.
 
I use 9mm Winchester 115g (white box) ammo from a local sporting goods store. I buy the 50ct boxes, which I guess aren't the value packs?
 
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
I use 9mm Winchester 115g (white box) ammo from a local sporting goods store. I buy the 50ct boxes, which I guess aren't the value packs?
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Nah, if you read the link, they say that the ammo in the 50 ct boxes is actually different than that in the 100 ct value packs.
 
It doesn't matter, they all work the same for you you are going to be shooting at. If you are going 300+ yards, you maybe notice a small difference, but at that range, your shake will be the main problem.
 
winchester white box from walmart... they be the cheapest and actually some of the cleanest

what you should do however is mix in ever few rounds w/ one of your hollow points that you carry on a normal basis... as they kick slightly differant then a standard practice round... and shooting hollow points for target practice alone is just too spendy
 
I own a Walther P99 in .40S&W. I use Winchester White Box 180gr ammo almost exclusively when I go the the range. Not only can you find it for dirt cheap at Walmart, but I've found it to be extremely reliable. I've put well over 2000 rounds through my gun and haven't had more than a couple misfires or jams. A testament to the quality of Walther, or the ammo itself? Try some out and see.

EDIT: GagHalfrunt is right. As long as you clean your gun after shooting, "dirty" ammo won't be a problem
 
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Buy cheap even if "dirty". As long as you clean your gun after each range session it doesn't really matter.
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Not true. I've shot some very cheap very smokey all lead ammo through some of my guns and it was no fun. It's a bitch to clean and breathing the lead and powder residue is like sucking on the exhaust of my car. It sucks. I'd rather spend a couple bucks more and get some decent factory ammo any day of the week.
 
Just remember -If you're using this handgun for defensive carry...
Every month put a couple magazines of your carry ammo through the weapon so that you can stay accustomed to the feel of the different ammunition.
 
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Buy cheap even if "dirty". As long as you clean your gun after each range session it doesn't really matter.
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Yeah, but I don't clean my entire pistol every time. The dirtier the ammo, the shorter the time before complete disassembly and cleaning, right?
 
Originally posted by: Honkus
I own a Walther P99 in .40S&W. I use Winchester White Box 180gr ammo almost exclusively when I go the the range. Not only can you find it for dirt cheap at Walmart, but I've found it to be extremely reliable. I've put well over 2000 rounds through my gun and haven't had more than a couple misfires or jams. A testament to the quality of Walther, or the ammo itself? Try some out and see. EDIT: GagHalfrunt is right. As long as you clean your gun after shooting, "dirty" ammo won't be a problem
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I've put almost 500 rounds through my CZ-85 without a single misfire. The stuff doesn't seem bad.
 
Oops... I thought you were talking rifles... 😀 300 yards is a long distance for pistol target shooting 😀
 
For target practice I usually use whatever is cheapest. Modern manufacture handgun ammo seems to be very reliable and I have only had one misfire do to a bad primer.

There is nothing wrong with the Winchester white box stuff. It always works fine for me. The most dirty ammo I have ever shot would be the Wolf pistol rounds, generaly I like to stay away from those anyay because of the steel case.

How much of a load the gun can take depends on its design. I won't be sending +P loads thrugh my Beretta but I would do it all day long with my Ruger P89.
 
I've put thousands of rounds of Winchester Value pack through my p99 without a single malfunction. Sometimes I use S&B, which has also been fine. The Winchester does seem to be a bit dirtier than the S&B, but not enough to cause a problem. Trigger on the p99 is actually much smoother when when the gun is a little dirty.

When I shoot .45 I use the new Wolf with the polymer coating. Very cheap, very accurate, 0 problems with my Springfield Mil-spec after 500 rounds. Smoky and dirty though. I just hose it out with Gun Scrubber every so often and it's like new.
 
I like American Eagle rounds best for target shooting, but they are not the most affordable. The 9mm rounds are 147 grain and full metal jacket with a flat point. The rounds for my .40mm are 164 grain full metal jacket rounds. They are a little more powerful than your standard rounds, but I find them to be more accurate than the Winchesters that I used to use.
 
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