Pioneer DEH-P90HDD Car MP3CD player

Thegonagle

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Pioneer - Bah!

If I can't figure out how to change the station, the CD track, and the bass and trebble within 10-15 seconds, I'm not buying it. Alpine and Kenwood are my favorites for ease of use.

EDIT: It'd be nice to have a hard drive built into the dash though.
 
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You have problems with Pioneer and ease of use? Changing the station - hit the ^ and v buttons. Change the cd track - hit the < and > buttons. Change the bass and treble? That depends on the deck. A lot of lower end models don't have that function - they just have the Easy EQ. (Hit one button to change from bass heavy to treble heavy to vocal heavy to natural to normal) For ones with that function you hit the Function key.

Pioneer has a MP3 deck that runs like $300 or so. That one looks pretty sweet though - the 9xxx series is frickin' sweet.
 

Imdmn04

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damn, a 10gig hd, mememory stick player and a mp3 cd player all in one.
but damn it's 1400 bucks, i can get a very nice complete system with that kinda dough. it'll probably get jacked before you even get used to the buttons
by the way. i got a kenwood car mp3 player for 300 bucks, not as many bells and whitsles but it kicks ass, does a good job for less than a quarter of that price
 

andrey

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$1409.95.. .ouch!!!

I can carry my laptop with me for that price with 60Gb hard drive which I can connect it to my stereo with a cable. Way more efficient and I even get 14.1" LCD and Internet access on top of that :)
 

Thegonagle

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<< Change the bass and treble? That depends on the deck. A lot of lower end models don't have that function - they just have the Easy EQ. (Hit one button to change from bass heavy to treble heavy to vocal heavy to natural to normal) For ones with that function you hit the Function key. >>

And I think that's a bunch of crap. Sorry.

I bought a different Pioneer CD player that came in a car once. You actually needed to change "modes" depending on whether you wanted the track buttons to change tracks or just FF and Reverse, and the bass and treble controls were, um, different. And it kept defaulting to the damn clock. I don't care if there's a clock in the radio. I've never had a car that didn't have a clock in the dashboard, and I wear a watch anyway. Though it sounded fine and it worked well, I still didn't like it because it was unnecessarily complex to operate. </Pioneer rant over. Just calling it like I see it>

After deciding that it's about time to replace my almost 5 year old Kenwood (with a cracked board in the faceplate that makes it very finicky if you touch it wrong), I've tried a lot of stereos in the stores, and I?ve pretty much decided on the new Alpine CDM-7874. It's a shame that I can't find an MP3-CD deck that I like for a good price, but thams da breaks. Maybe in another few years. :(

This Alpine has an aux input for an MP3 player (or any damn thing I want, they told me), 50 W (25 W RMS) per channel, and it will be EASY to operate while I'm driving. I have great appreciation for a simple UI. I can concentrate on driving, and everyone should be happy about that. :)

At $199 in the store (less if I wait for a sale), it will be less than half the price my Kenwood was all those years ago, and it's more powerful. :D I just hope Alpines are still as good as their reputation.
 
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Well I'll admit - the older models are a bit odd when it comes to working them. (My Premier P700r wasn't the most user friendly) There models of late are leaps and bounds above that though. I recently replaced the P700r with the DEH-P5200 and that's as user friendly as they come. (A week later I replaced it with the DEH-P6300 because I wanted the Organic EL display and independent bass/treble controls) I could take you into any car audio store and show you how to fully work every function on that in probably < 2 minutes. Maybe it's just a personal bias I guess. (Well it is since I refuse to buy any brand but Pioneer)
 

Thegonagle

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If you say they've gotten so much better, maybe I'll try them out again instead of assuming they're difficult based on my personal bias. ;)
 

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<< Pioneer - Bah!

If I can't figure out how to change the station, the CD track, and the bass and trebble within 10-15 seconds, I'm not buying it. Alpine and Kenwood are my favorites for ease of use.

EDIT: It'd be nice to have a hard drive built into the dash though.
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you serious about the Kenwood? Their function keys are the most unintuitive. I've both a Pioneer and a Kenwood headunit, I learn all Pioneer's function a couple of minutes. Kenwood is a bit different. I had to break out the manual for that. Even after reading the manual, I still can't figure out how to turn the LOUD feature off. It says to push the LOUD key for more than 1 sec. Problem is.. where's the LOUD key?!?! It's marked on the headunit.. but it's not remotely close to any key. Anyone wanna help me out here? I am serious, I am still trying to find the key so I can turn it off. I have the KDC-9017. Thanks.
 

Thegonagle

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OK, time to come clean. Kenwood has been getting worse, which is why I won't be repeating my purchase with them. Their excelon (and non-excelon) series used to be very simple, but now it's been getting as funky as anything.