PII 266 or Celeron 600 which is faster?

Rachet

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I am considering upgrading my PII 266 which is on an Abit LX6, to a Celeron 600 ( max CPU upgrade).

I believe the maximum PII I could use is a 333.

I want to know is it worth upgrading to theCeleron- I would need to buy a slotket card and the Celeron 600 est. cost around $70.00.

A friend said that the gain in CPU speed would be offset with the reduction of the 512 cache to 128.

Your help is appreciated.
 

EdipisReks

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a celeron600 is a lot faster than a pII 266. the cache isn't that much of a factor. 1, the 512k cache on the pii is running at 133mHz, where the 128k cache is running at 600 mHz on the celeron, and 2, the celeron has SSE instructions (not to mention that it also has the advantage of more than twice the raw clock speed). however, i don't think it is worth it for $70 bucks, when a 1 gHz athlon costs less than that. i would suggest saving a little more and buying a new motherboard/proc unless you really need a boost right now.

--jacob
 

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P2 266 to a Celeron 600 comparison?? lol.. hope you're joking. :D
The P2 as you said, does have 512kb L2 cache but it's off die and it's pushed by one half speed of the CPU speed (133mhz in this case). Celery 600 as u know, has 128kb L2 but runs at full speed of the Celeron core. It will outperform a P2 266 marginally.
 

EdipisReks

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might as well just have quoted what i put, MilkPowderR, though the 600 mhz celeron will be much more than just marginally faster. it should be well over twice as fast as the pII 266.

--jacob
 

MilkPowderR

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oops.. pardon me.
I didn't know what i was thinking. haha :eek: I put the wrong word in there as though this isn't my first spoken language. im embarrased now lol

btw, yes apparently you've already replied to his post while I was typing in the reply form. I wouldn't have replied if I read your reply cauze what you said is all correct, hehe :D
 

EdipisReks

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hey, don't worry about it :D at least he knows that more than one person is telling him that the celeron600 is faster :cool:

--jacob
 

Egrimm

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Celeron 600 is a lot faster. As has been said before the larger cache isn't that much better as it's slower. If you can remember the time when everybody was oc'in their Celeron 300As (which had on die cache) to 450Mhz they were just as fast as the P2 450Mhz (which had larger cache outside the cpu like yours).
I agree with EdipisReks though, you would be better off saving a little longer and get a Athlon (as they are very cheap) and a cheap ddr-mobo like ECS K7S5A. That'll give you more than twice the performance.
 

Rand

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The Celeron 600MHz will quite easily blow away a PII 266MHz or a PII 333MHz for that matter. Still, given the price on the processor you might want to look into buying a cheap SocketA motherboard as well and popping in an Athlon.

 

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Now that you are doing this type of comparison, I also have a question that I want to ask.

Which of the following is the fastest, the medium, and the slowest:
(1) Pentium II 300
(2) Celeron 333
(3) Celeron 433

I own all three of these and I am curious.
 

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Is there a chart or any kind of comparison generally between processors I can look at. What I mean is, if a program says it recommends say a 400mhz P3, how close does my 466mhz Celeron come?
Or what speed of a P3 would equal a 600mhz P2? Is there a formula for conversions, even a rough one?

Thanks.
 

Rachet

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I forgot all about the speed of the cache. Thanks for your thoughts.

I am not familiar with AMD products, all of my machines have had Intel Processors.

Could you suggest a motherboard that I could use a 1.0GHz Athlon in that could be upgraded to a 1.6 or so later.
I know the FSB can come in at 266, so that is what I would like to consider.
My other machines(which have been handed down to my kids) have had Abit or Asus motherboards.

I would like to stay with those brands, although I have heard that MSI makes a good board.

What would you suggest?
 

Sukhoi

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<< Now that you are doing this type of comparison, I also have a question that I want to ask.

Which of the following is the fastest, the medium, and the slowest:
(1) Pentium II 300
(2) Celeron 333
(3) Celeron 433

I own all three of these and I am curious.
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Depends what you're doing, but C433, PII 300 MHz, C333. The last two will probably flip-flop depending on the task.
 

Rand

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<<

<< Now that you are doing this type of comparison, I also have a question that I want to ask.

Which of the following is the fastest, the medium, and the slowest:
(1) Pentium II 300
(2) Celeron 333
(3) Celeron 433

I own all three of these and I am curious.
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Depends what you're doing, but C433, PII 300 MHz, C333. The last two will probably flip-flop depending on the task.
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More or less exactly what I was going to say. Back when the PII was on a 66MHz FSB the Celeron offered almost exactly the same performance at equivalent clock.
 

Jhhnn

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I just checked abit sites in the US and Taiwan- couldn't even find any reference to a LX6, but I might just be blind. Apparently too old, either myself or your mobo. I'd be careful, as the bios would probably need to be updated to run any celeron, unless your manual specifically states that celerons are OK. The older PPGA celerons only go as high as 533, the newer FCPGA celerons will almost certainly require a bios update, if one is available, and then the upper limit would be 766....

Even a 533 PPGA celeron would be a definite improvement.....
 

Rachet

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The Bios were at their FTP site.

It is an old board.

Thanks for your help everyone, I am going to check prices - I probably will end up upgrading motherboard as well.

 

rogue1979

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Computer Geeks has a socket 370 board for about $37 shipped. Newegg has the Celeron 900 for $52 shipped. The motherboard does not have core voltage adjustments, although it does have a 112MHz fsb setting which the 900 can run easily at stock core voltage for a speed of 1008MHz. $89 total, it doesn't get any cheaper than that.