pigpony.com anyone ever heard of this place?

[Avalon]

Oh wow, the site is indeed down. That doesn't sound good...

 

[starwars7]

Hummmmm, we should keep an eye on this, we've got one satisfied customer and one not so satisfied

 

[doze]

Marked to check out later if the site comes up. Cheap electronics make good christmas gifts.

 

[mikeford]

So do credit card numbers.

 

[TekDemon]

Originally posted by: Richardito

Originally posted by: moonsite
Anyone knows what's going on with this? I ordered one of that MP4 players a couple of week ago, but haven't heard back. Their website seems to be down as well.

These are just scammers from China. The same ones that now hound everyone in eBay with messages offering their junk. Check that your credit card number was not stolen.

Calm the eff down. Setting up an internet store in China is a pretty popular thing for the more educated people to do. Some people even move back to China from the US to do this-mostly because your cost of living is so low in China that you can basically just work like 3 hours a week and you're set. Of course that's assuming you don't mind living rather within the means of someone who's Chinese.

Anyways, my point is that just because a store is based in China doesn't automatically make it a scam.

And FWIW, the website is back up. Servers aren't perfectly reliable in China, lol.

I *HIGHLY* doubt that anyone who can maintain a 99.6% ebay feedback rating is trying to scam people over a cheap mp3 player, or steal people's credit cards. There's much too much money to be made legitly. China is *NOT* one of the major hotbeds of credit card theft. For one thing, most Chinese websites don't even focus on taking credit cards, because most Chinese people do not have credit cards. So if you lived in China and you stole some US credit card numbers, you'd have a really hard time doing anything with them (I guess you could order lots of online porn-assuming the websites weren't blocked already by the great firewall).

The reason why there are so few credit cards in China is because there are so few people with any credit history. Unlike the US where the credit bureaus already have all the data on our lives they need, there's no such thing in China. Even if there had been a centralized system, there'd be no data anyway, since nobody ever really needed to take out any loans under the communist rule, you got issued your apartment, and you couldn't buy cars, so more or less nobody ever had any reason to have a line of credit.

Anyways it's getting way off topic by now, but basically in China you can pay either via your cell phone # or via COD (Amazon.com's major Chinese competitor accepts CODs via local couriers...which is one of the reasons why they had a major edge on Amazon and others).

Point is, this is obviously a legit business-just because a business is on ebay and based in China doesn't mean it's a scam.

moonsite, why don't you try contacting them through ebay? If their website was having problems they might not have gotten any e-mails you sent them, but sending through ebay should still work ok.

Worst cast scenario moonsite can just call his credit card company, and it'd be sorted out pretty quickly since it's such a small amount (a lot of companies eat chargebacks below a threshold because fighting it is a waste of human resources, and thus money). But I wouldn't even think that's needed-it just seems like a website problem that might have screwed up communications with moonsite.

And btw, I've never bought anything from this store, but I really hate it when people treat ebay businesses or Chinese businesses like they're serial killers. I sell things on ebay and I've *NEVER* screwed over a customer, ever. If a customer won an auction below my cost I shipped it anyway (happened like 2-3 times because I don't like using reserves), and I regularly upgraded people's shipping for free, etc. And when a customer said his printer showed up broken because one part was stuck, I told him I'd walk him through the insurance claims process-but when he decided it wasn't really worth that kind of effort I agreed to just split the price of the printer with him, sight unseen, so he wouldn't have to ship the printer back (which would have cost about the same anyway). Point is, when someone has spectacular and legitimate ebay feedback, it's very very very unlikely that business would scam you. Pretty much the only time this happens is when someone has hijacked their account. Which is also why I refunded the guy the money sight unseen-he had fantastic feedback and didn't sound like the kind of person who'd try to scam me over a laser printer.

Oh and finally, shipping internationally does occasionally mean that customs will cause annoying delays. And, packages do in fact get lost on rare occasion. I remember when Canadian customs decided to go on strike and screw my customers over for a month. *sigh*

 

[BrokenArrow]

Originally posted by: Richardito

Originally posted by: moonsite
Anyone knows what's going on with this? I ordered one of that MP4 players a couple of week ago, but haven't heard back. Their website seems to be down as well.

These are just scammers from China. The same ones that now hound everyone in eBay with messages offering their junk. Check that your credit card number was not stolen.

moonsite, i got my player within a few days. It came usps in a paper mailer envelope. Also check the first page of this thread, someone has the contact numbers for pigpony posted.

Richardito, You really ought to do more research before blasting a business because one person didn't get their order in a timely fashion. Even the best businesses have an occasional issue or dissatisfied customer. I ordered from pigpony, and I got my order promptly. The product, while it may not be up to your high standards, is definitly not (IMHO) junk. Also, my CC info was not stolen (I would know, I use a credit monitoring service).

BTW: Well said TekDemon.

 

[NorthBear]

I got my order about 8 business days after they Emailed me saying it was shipped. I got the 2GB iPod Nano knockoff.
PigPony's site was down over the weekend and I notice that the player I bought went up $10 in price....

The player does have 2GB. I tested with a couple of files that used up 1.6GB of space and then MD5 checksums on
both the originals and the ones in the player. This player also supports OGG format audio files, which is great by me
since I ripped all my CDs to Vorbis format.

The player was mailed to me from Tennesee and took 4 business days. The rest of the time was what???? Maybe waiting
for it to arrive from China?

I think it was worth what I paid for it.

 

[ECartman]

I'm in for 2 of the 2GB nano knockoffs. Let's hope they don't get inundated once it gets out that these are decent for the price.