pig poop to oil

Engineer

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Originally posted by: skooma
Originally posted by: EatSpam

I read about this awhile ago. I can't wait until this technology is common place.
Would be nice if only for the waste reduction. Its certainly no oil dependency solution.

Estimates of 4 billion barrels of oil per year could be produced with this method. Sounds like a pretty good long term dependence solution to me. US uses 7.3 billion barrels of oil per year. The above alone could eliminate 100% of foreign oil imports not counting any ethanol or other alternative fuel productions. Also doesn't include the simple solution of giving cars much higher efficiency.
 

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They seemed pleased producing 6,000 barrells a month (april 06) in their first plant. They claim its running at ~ 30% capacity. So they're looking at roughly 240,000 barrells a year per plant.

From their stats, we use 11 million barrells a day in imports alone. I'd say we're a lonnng way off.
 

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: skooma
Originally posted by: EatSpam

I read about this awhile ago. I can't wait until this technology is common place.
Would be nice if only for the waste reduction. Its certainly no oil dependency solution.

Estimates of 4 billion barrels of oil per year could be produced with this method. Sounds like a pretty good long term dependence solution to me. US uses 7.3 billion barrels of oil per year. The above alone could eliminate 100% of foreign oil imports not counting any ethanol or other alternative fuel productions. Also doesn't include the simple solution of giving cars much higher efficiency.

This sounds like its a great solution to our oil dependency. Unfortunately, it also means that the oil execs and their cohorts in Washington would never let it reach this scale.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: skooma
Originally posted by: EatSpam

I read about this awhile ago. I can't wait until this technology is common place.
Would be nice if only for the waste reduction. Its certainly no oil dependency solution.

Estimates of 4 billion barrels of oil per year could be produced with this method. Sounds like a pretty good long term dependence solution to me. US uses 7.3 billion barrels of oil per year. The above alone could eliminate 100% of foreign oil imports not counting any ethanol or other alternative fuel productions. Also doesn't include the simple solution of giving cars much higher efficiency.

This sounds like its a great solution to our oil dependency. Unfortunately, it also means that the oil execs and their cohorts in Washington would never let it reach this scale.


Actually if you read the article it could be very useful in finally bringing large supplies of tar and shale oils, and coal on line...making thier use cleaner and more efficient.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: skooma
They seemed pleased producing 6,000 barrells a month (april 06) in their first plant. They claim its running at ~ 30% capacity. So they're looking at roughly 240,000 barrells a year per plant.

From their stats, we use 11 million barrells a day in imports alone. I'd say we're a lonnng way off.

We may well be but you've got to start somewhere and sometime. Just think of the jobs that this could produce, not to mention the solution to huge heaps of trash (assuming that it's not just a panacea and actually worthwhile! ;) )
 

MadRat

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How many btu's can you get out of a gallon of that stuff in comparison to more common heating oils?

I doubt you'd want to use light oil for automobiles, but I could see it used in powerplants and home heating.

Edit: The article Engineer links to says its like gasoline mixed with heating oil. Maybe it would be closer to an automobile fuel than I thought.
 

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There are 59 million pigs in the US & the article says each pig could produce 3.6gallons/day so that's a lot of potential oil. That's 212.4Million gallons a day which is a lot more than the daily consumption of oil in the united states (20M/day). How could that much fuel possibly be produced from pigs?
 

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
There are 59 million pigs in the US & the article says each pig could produce 3.6gallons/day so that's a lot of potential oil. That's 212.4Million gallons a day which is a lot more than the daily consumption of oil in the united states (20M/day). How could that much fuel possibly be produced from pigs?



Now the plan is to move from the lab to a full-sized pilot reactor on a farm somewhere Downstate. Zhang predicts the process could get 3.6 gallons of crude oil a day out of each pig. Illinois brings some 7.2 million hogs to market each year and the nationwide industry is about 100-million hogs strong.

Theoretically, the resulting millions of barrels of crude a day could make a significant dent in America's dependence on nonrenewable, and often imported, oil.

But converting the nations automobile fleet to hog-oline isn't what Zhang or the hog industry is thinking about right now. No research has been done into how many current commercial vehicles could run on the fuel.

still experimental and these are estimates but with sustained high oil prices, its only a matter of time before the arabs chokehold is broken.
Its what was needed to get innovation off its duff.
 

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
There are 59 million pigs in the US & the article says each pig could produce 3.6gallons/day so that's a lot of potential oil. That's 212.4Million gallons a day which is a lot more than the daily consumption of oil in the united states (20M/day). How could that much fuel possibly be produced from pigs?

20 million BARRELs per day = 400 million gallons of crude per day. Regardless, 212 million makes a huge dent. Throw in the "Anything to Oil" article above and others like it and you have huge amounts of produced products and lots of jobs for people producing it. Also, could possibly export it for a nice surplus! ;)
 

Genx87

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This is the free market at work. People taking the initiative to bring new technologies into the market for profit.

This sounds very interesting and wonder how useful the oil is? I could see a company like Tyson build a plant right next to every turkey or chicken farm they own and sell the oil from the waste.

 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
This is the free market at work. People taking the initiative to bring new technologies into the market for profit.

This sounds very interesting and wonder how useful the oil is? I could see a company like Tyson build a plant right next to every turkey or chicken farm they own and sell the oil from the waste.

But it doesn't have to just turkey/chicken. It can be "MOST" trash that's turned into oil instead of burying it into the ground. Just think of the reduction of landfills. Hell, people might even start SELLING their trash! :p
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
hopefully one day they can tap into men's asses for gas. beans for everyone!

Andreassen and others anticipate that a large chunk of the world's agricultural, industrial, and municipal waste may someday go into thermal depolymerization machines scattered all over the globe

translation - sewage.
nice to know they got a volunteer though
 

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Originally posted by: skooma
Originally posted by: EatSpam

I read about this awhile ago. I can't wait until this technology is common place.
Would be nice if only for the waste reduction. Its certainly no oil dependency solution.

Can't agree.

We have what seems an unlimited supply of waste. If they are accurate with their estimates of approx $12 per barrel and it uses the same or similar refining process as "regular" oil, well bye bye Middle East (and county dumps etc). :thumbsup: