Pics of me getting beat up!

[reverend boltron]

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[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Martial Farts can be fun, but you really have to make sure your teacher is a good person. Seriously. Like, I was really into BJJ and Muay Thai for a long long time, training 6 nights a week 5pm - 11pm for about two years. And when I wasn't going that extreme I was going 3 nights a week for 6 hours. And let me tell you, the experience is definitely tainted for me because of an instructor I had. Like, even going back into it a little bit I start to like have "flashbacks" of what it was like before, or if I'm teaching again, like, I'll start to have flashbacks and then the dreams start up again. No joke. Like you'll get these crazy dreams where you're fighting everyone, except like, now that you know how to fight, you start to fight that way.

I've had multiple dreams where I've broken someones arm and I think its real, then I start freaking out because of the cops and the law and I freak out because of what happened. Or like, I'll be fighting someone and I won't stop and I'll kill them. Man, that might not sound too bad, but like, when you wake up and think it's real, it really freaks you out. I can honestly tell you this too, I've fought in my sleep. Like, I've woken up wrestling around. You sometimes hear about people who strangle their wife in their sleep or something, that's messed up man, but like, I could really see how that would happen. Especially from Vets or people who have a lot of experience in that sort of thing.

My dad has woken me up before when I was in a deep sleep and I almost attacked him too. Like, I was sleeping on the couch, and he comes running in the room to tell me something, and I like stood up and was ready to pounce but he stopped moving once I got up. Who knows what would have happened if he kept on running in there.

Like, there are birds DYING

 

[fbrdphreak]

So does judo rely on upper body strength at all or what's the dealio with that?

 

[reverend boltron]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
Martial Farts can be fun, but you really have to make sure your teacher is a good person. Seriously. Like, I was really into BJJ and Muay Thai for a long long time, training 6 nights a week 5pm - 11pm for about two years. And when I wasn't going that extreme I was going 3 nights a week for 6 hours. And let me tell you, the experience is definitely tainted for me because of an instructor I had. Like, even going back into it a little bit I start to like have "flashbacks" of what it was like before, or if I'm teaching again, like, I'll start to have flashbacks and then the dreams start up again. No joke. Like you'll get these crazy dreams where you're fighting everyone, except like, now that you know how to fight, you start to fight that way.

I've had multiple dreams where I've broken someones arm and I think its real, then I start freaking out because of the cops and the law and I freak out because of what happened. Or like, I'll be fighting someone and I won't stop and I'll kill them. Man, that might not sound too bad, but like, when you wake up and think it's real, it really freaks you out. I can honestly tell you this too, I've fought in my sleep. Like, I've woken up wrestling around. You sometimes hear about people who strangle their wife in their sleep or something, that's messed up man, but like, I could really see how that would happen. Especially from Vets or people who have a lot of experience in that sort of thing.

My dad has woken me up before when I was in a deep sleep and I almost attacked him too. Like, I was sleeping on the couch, and he comes running in the room to tell me something, and I like stood up and was ready to pounce but he stopped moving once I got up. Who knows what would have happened if he kept on running in there.

Like, there are birds DYING

😕

 

[sourceninja]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
So does judo rely on upper body strength at all or what's the dealio with that?

Well technically no, but if your not in good shape you are still going to suck at judo. Judo has to deal with taking your opponents balance then throwing him with leverage. A strong grip and pull will go a long way. But you dont pick people up with your arms and chest, you try to get below their hips and lift with your hips or pull them over. Of course trips, leg reaps, and blocking are also big parts of judo.

http://www.judoinfo.com/menu.htm to get some info on judo and see how the throws work. My favorite throws are Harai-goshi and Tani-otoshi. Just because they come very naturally to me.

Remember every martial art says what makes it unqiue is you do not have to be bigger, stronger, or faster then your opponent. However the simple fact remains that you will have better odds of winning a fight if you are bigger, strong, and faster then your opponent. And of course the first logical step to self defense would be to get in good shape and health. You can't really expect to defend yourself if you are 15+ pounds overweight and can't walk up a small stairwell without gassing. It doesn't matter if you are a ninja.

 

[sourceninja]

Just a bump in case the night crew wanted to see.

 

[JDrake]

:thumbsup: looks fun

 

[kumanchu]

Originally posted by: sourceninja

Originally posted by: reverend boltron
What school do you train at man? I used to train with Jason Lugtu in Elite, and I trained up at Jeff Currans school for about a week, heh. Where were the NAGA's at this year? I know that Bob Schirmer hosted them a year back or so. Have you ever gone to the Combat Do tourneys?

I train at a carlson gracie school in indiana under a carlson gracie brown belt. They held NAGA at the cisero high school. The next one near here is in Ohio then back in chicago in august. This was my first BJJ competition. Before that I was into judo and aikido and had done a few judo competitions. I got into bjj because I want to get into MMA and my ground work sucks. I'm doing a ton of competitions this summer in both bjj and judo (chicago, indy, east chicago, ohio, etc). I've never been to any Combat Do tourneys, but if I see one, I'll most likley go. I love competition.

As for whats going on in the pic's. In the very bottom right pic, I'm in control of his arms and about to attempt an armbar. In the pic above that I was down on points and making a really stupid attempt to choke from the guard. The picture to the left of that has a guy sweeping me. The rest are perty self explainitory.

As for the Judo/hopkido/bjj link thing. Judo like wrestling can help greatly when making the transition to submission wrestling competitions. At lower levels you dont have to worry about leg locks and neck cranks (well in white belt gi competitions) so its almost exactly like judo (except for you can't win with one good throw). I really suggest everyone at some point take judo. Its a great sport and will teach you a lot about self defense, falling safely, and what real martial arts training should resemble (aka lots and lots of randori). Add some no-gi throws and some striking and your a very well rounded fighter. As for the you can't do that in judo remarks, eventually you will find some guys who are willing to bend the rules now and then for fun. I know a lot of judo guys who like to roll with leg locks, wrist locks, and spine/neck cranks. And the best thing about judo is its the cheapest martial art ever! Most judo schools are half the cost of other martial arts.

NAGA submissons and rules vary depending on the competition and skill level (gi or no gi, novice begninner, advanced, etc). In no-gi divisions all submissions are legal except grabing fingers or toes (less then 4 at once), eye gouging, sticking any part of you into any hole, cut or orafice of your opponent (this includes chin in eye), and groin strikes. Gi rules where a little different with white belt being restricted from doing leg locks, ankle locks, and neck/spine cranks. After competiting in judo I found the ruleset refreshing.

I highly suggest you give it a try. Win or loose you are going to learn a lot and have a great time.

Oh and I can't say I've ever had dreams about killing people or fighting. Although I fell alseep on my way home from NAGA and had dreams that I was still waiting to compete (the wait was horrible, I waited from 8am to 6pm for my first fight. They had over 800 competitors.). I tipically train 4 days a week about 3 hours a day. 1 and 1/2 hours bjj and 1 and 1/2 hours mma (kickboxing, takedowns, throws, cardio/str training, sparing under mma ruleset). I really just started the MMA training though. Every now and then I get together with my judo friends and work throws and judo style randori.

I have to say I love my current training more then my past training. I've always hated the dont question your sensi mentallity of most martial arts. I hated the strict rules and being forced to learn words in other languages and call people sir. Its a false sense of respect. I didnt join martial arts to pretend i'm in a military. But with my current training there is none of that, we are all just like friends hangign out in a gym. We show up, get down to buisness, and then hang out afterwards. Nobody cares if I dont know the portuguese for rear nakid choke, its not going to hold me back from getting my next belt (I hated the judo tests. I mean who cares if you know 4 10th degree black belts names). So for anyone who has always wanted to try a martial art but was turned off by the yelling, and the yes sir no sir mentallity, try picking up jiujitsu, boxing, mma, kickboxing, etc. You might just be surprised.

Back on subject, does anyone have an recomendations for a cheap digital camera or digital camcorder that would be better for taking these kind of pictures (or recording the fights) in the future?

hey if you are going to be back in the chicago area, i train over at tohkon i like it there. no ego, tons of really amazing judokas. the price is about a third of the carlson gracie school (which does kick ass) and half that of the gracie barra school (which supposedly is pretty good too).

rolling with a gracie is like trying to beat up a boulder. you just can't win and you end up out of breath and tired.

 

[sourceninja]

Looks like a great school. Too bad I didn't know about that judo compettion sooner, it would be nice to compete in judo again (although i would have to go bug my old teacher to sign your waver saying I wont get killed). But i'm already pre-reged for a bjj competition on june 10th. ( http://www.indianapolisjiujitsu.com/Hoosier2006.htm )

Hopefully I'm gonna pick up a Elura 80 or a ZR700 before June so I can film my next matches.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: sourceninja

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
So does judo rely on upper body strength at all or what's the dealio with that?

Well technically no, but if your not in good shape you are still going to suck at judo. Judo has to deal with taking your opponents balance then throwing him with leverage. A strong grip and pull will go a long way. But you dont pick people up with your arms and chest, you try to get below their hips and lift with your hips or pull them over. Of course trips, leg reaps, and blocking are also big parts of judo.

http://www.judoinfo.com/menu.htm to get some info on judo and see how the throws work. My favorite throws are Harai-goshi and Tani-otoshi. Just because they come very naturally to me.

Remember every martial art says what makes it unqiue is you do not have to be bigger, stronger, or faster then your opponent. However the simple fact remains that you will have better odds of winning a fight if you are bigger, strong, and faster then your opponent. And of course the first logical step to self defense would be to get in good shape and health. You can't really expect to defend yourself if you are 15+ pounds overweight and can't walk up a small stairwell without gassing. It doesn't matter if you are a ninja.

Interesting. Upper body strength isn't a problem for me, I was curious how it played into it. I've always pondered about learning to do something with all this lumbering mass I have 😛

 

[sourceninja]

Muscle will count for a lot in the begining, but as you progress in skill you will find you dont need all that much. You will find a lot of really good guys who are smaller and weaker then you that can just rock you. Skill can overcome strenght, but being strong always helps 🙂