PICS: llano IHS removed

[Soulkeeper]

Temps are a few degrees lower (5-10c)

The paste that was under the IHS had a very dried/stiff feel to it, almost like it was a thermal glue or adhesive.

The die is a bit larger than I expected.
Definitely not the size of an athlonXP

 

[ShintaiDK]

<Waits for all the complains about AMD going cheap on the TIM>

This is another of those "What you dont know......"

 

[Soulkeeper]

<Waits for all the complains about AMD going cheap on the TIM>

This is another of those "What you dont know......"

I don't want to say it's bad, I just expected more of a paste consistency.
This stuff is completely dry (like rubber).

 

[Vesku]

Haven't heard any major complaints about keeping Llanos cool. I guess their current GF fab process at least saves them some money there. ;p

<Waits for all the complains about AMD going cheap on the TIM>

This is another of those "What you dont know......"

 

[ShintaiDK]

I´m not saying its bad either. Its more of the illusion until you see reality. I bet the fluxless one is actually very rare in the industry.

 

[Rvenger]

That paste application is actually very good and even compared to some of the screenshots of the IVB cpus. The paste being hard is not an issue since it is supposed to bond somewhat to the heatspreader and dye. After you apply so many heat cycles the TIM cures which is what you are actually seeing. As long as the heatspreader doesn't shift, the thermal paste won't move from its spot. If you were to remove it and you saw it cracking and flaking off, then I would be concerned.


I find it interesting that this was never brought up earlier. Probably because Llano doesn't have heat issues with a decent cooler.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Or because Llano is 228mm2 and Ivy is 160mm2.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Or because Llano is 228mm2 and Ivy is 160mm2.

This as well.

 

[Soulkeeper]

I just tried to see if I could overclock further.
Nope, the chip just has a limitation regardless of temps/volts.
I can benchmark a bit up to 3.7GHz but it's only completely stable around 3.4GHz and won't boot at 3.8 or higher.

I'm really wanting a faster 6 or 8 core chip now ...
ohh well, always wanting something faster is the desease.
I'm kinda on an AMD binge ... too bad piledriver isn't out right now.

 

[borisvodofsky]

I just tried to see if I could overclock further.
Nope, the chip just has a limitation regardless of temps/volts.
I can benchmark a bit up to 3.7GHz but it's only completely stable around 3.4GHz and won't boot at 3.8 or higher.

I'm really wanting a faster 6 or 8 core chip now ...
ohh well, always wanting something faster is the desease.
I'm kinda on an AMD binge ... too bad piledriver isn't out right now.

LOL easy choice, x79 is the only "fast" 6 core in town.

Bulldozer is terrible because it cost as much as sandybridge/ivybridge, and performs only half as well in games, and about 70% in daily applications. :whiste: