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Pickup Truck Wars: Chevy poised to take crown from Ford

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Is the mighty Ford F-150 pickup truck in danger of losing its longtime sales crown?

Helped by General Motors Corp.'s popular employee-style discounts, the Chevrolet Silverado surged past the F-150 in June by a wide margin and set a new monthly record for big pickup sales -- 109,359 units.

And for the year, the Silverado trails the F-150 pickup in sales by just 23,526 units -- raising the stakes in one of Detroit's longest and most closely watched product rivalries.

Now Ford is rallying dealers to set a new monthly record in July for the F-150 pickup.

Ford had held the record for monthly full-size pickup truck sales since October 2001, when it sold 102,424 F-150 models during the auto industry's sales blitz following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

The F-150 has been the nation's top-selling light vehicle for 28 consecutive years and is Ford's most profitable vehicle line. With losses mounting in North America, it is making a renewed effort to revive F-150 sales that have dropped 6 percent this year.

"We want to re-establish a new full-size pickup monthly sales record with over 110,000 F-series sales in July," Ford Division President Daryl Hazel told dealers in a letter last week. "It is essential that we close the month strong and report all F-series sales."

The heightened sales race has produced a major pricing war between Chevrolet and Ford, while undermining profitability at GM. and Ford.

The average transaction price of a 2005 Silverado 1500 pickup has dropped 3 percent from $25,004 in January to $24,193 in June, according to Edmunds.com, an online shopping guide. Average F-150 prices have dropped 2 percent since January, to $25,799 last month.

The raft of new discounts by Detroit and other automakers is expected to push July's new car and truck sales to a four-year high. Major automakers will report July sales on Tuesday. http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0507/31/D01-264357.htm
 
I'd have to buy a Nissan or Toyota (and now maybe Honda) if I was going to get a full size truck. I like the Titan the best.
 
Originally posted by: aircooled
I'd have to buy a Nissan or Toyota (and now maybe Honda) if I was going to get a full size truck. I like the Titan the best.

and that's why you don't have a fullsize truck
 
When GM builds a truck to compete with the F450 and F550 then I'll believe it.

Those are work trucks.

 
Originally posted by: Francodman
Originally posted by: aircooled
I'd have to buy a Nissan or Toyota (and now maybe Honda) if I was going to get a full size truck. I like the Titan the best.

and that's why you don't have a fullsize truck


Correct, I had a small truck (Frontier) for a while, and It was much nicer than the small Ford or Chevy. I borrowed my neighbors F-250 a couple of times, and was a very nice truck though. But if I were buying one, I'd probably get the Titan. Would have to test drive them all first.
 
I just bought a ford after test driving a few GMs. GM has a way to go to get the silverado on par with the new F150. I have let a few GM lovers drive my Ford and even they agree that GM has some work to do to get the trucks competitive again.
 
Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge
I just bought a ford after test driving a few GMs. GM has a way to go to get the silverado on par with the new F150. I have let a few GM lovers drive my Ford and even they agree that GM has some work to do to get the trucks competitive again.

Interesting, I feel just the opposite - can you be more specific?
 
Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge
I just bought a ford after test driving a few GMs. GM has a way to go to get the silverado on par with the new F150. I have let a few GM lovers drive my Ford and even they agree that GM has some work to do to get the trucks competitive again.

Supposedly, the silverados are a generation behind as Ford's new F150 got released a year or 2 before GM

I think the redesigned silverados come out in the next 6 mos
 
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge
I just bought a ford after test driving a few GMs. GM has a way to go to get the silverado on par with the new F150. I have let a few GM lovers drive my Ford and even they agree that GM has some work to do to get the trucks competitive again.

Interesting, I feel just the opposite - can you be more specific?

Dude....you drive a FIERO. How can we take your word on vehicle quality?

😛😉
 
Originally posted by: Insane3D
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: Antisocial Virge
I just bought a ford after test driving a few GMs. GM has a way to go to get the silverado on par with the new F150. I have let a few GM lovers drive my Ford and even they agree that GM has some work to do to get the trucks competitive again.

Interesting, I feel just the opposite - can you be more specific?

Dude....you drive a FIERO. How can we take your word on vehicle quality?

😛😉


hehehe

I bought a 2005 Silverado Crewcab last Fall, that's why I want to know. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: alm4rr
Foreign trucks are not work trucks

American versions of foreign work trucks are not work trucks. Also, if a truck 'works for me' then it is a work truck to me. Just because a lot of the local, state, and federal governments like to 'buy American' doesn't mean the rest of civilization stopped working and using trucks in the process.
 
Originally posted by: alm4rr
Foreign trucks are not work trucks


I would have agreed with you two years ago,but I would challenge you to drive my Titan and see if it doesnt measure up to a real work truck. It would definitely surprise you.



Peace


Lounatik
 
Originally posted by: Francodman
Originally posted by: aircooled
I'd have to buy a Nissan or Toyota (and now maybe Honda) if I was going to get a full size truck. I like the Titan the best.

and that's why you don't have a fullsize truck

Titan is as fullsize as any half ton American truck.
 
Originally posted by: Sasha
Originally posted by: alm4rr
Foreign trucks are not work trucks

American versions of foreign work trucks are not work trucks. Also, if a truck 'works for me' then it is a work truck to me. Just because a lot of the local, state, and federal governments like to 'buy American' doesn't mean the rest of civilization stopped working and using trucks in the process.

You want to know why the local, state and federal governments buy American? Because they get huge fleet discounts on them. That is all.
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Titan is as fullsize as any half ton American truck.
That's retarded! WTF is the 8' bed?

There are just two body styles: an extended cab (King Cab) with a 6-foot-5-inch bed and a crew cab with a 5-foot-5 bed.

Do you know what percentage of fullsize American trucks are sold with an 8' bed? A large majority are short bed models (I think it was something like 75-80% were shortbed models) which is why Toyota and Nissan decided not to offer the long bed in their extended cab fullsize trucks.
 
Titan is as fullsize as any half ton American truck...

Last time I checked, eight foot is greater than 6-foot-5-inch.
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Titan is as fullsize as any half ton American truck...

Last time I checked, eight foot is greater than 6-foot-5-inch.

Did you read my post above? Knock knock knock...anyone there?

Echo...
Echo...
Echo...
 
the reason you will VERY VERY VERY rarely have a const. worker, gov. employee, or other person with a work truck that is foreign is because the long standing reign of reliable trucks IS ameican. chevy, ford, dodge have been building trucks for so long, they know how to do it, chevy and ford are KNOWN to be reliable and a lot of other people within the industry would look at the truck you drive and immediately judge that you did not buy american and sometimes just that will change if they use you or not.
 
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