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Alright people - this is the final question. My Amazon credit all got settled, so it's all systems go. I now have 2 options:

Samsung LNT4665F 46" 1080p LCD HDTV - $1600

Samsung LNT4671F 46" 1080p 120Hz LCD - $2000 HDTV

Now, my budget increased a little bit (a little) since I got a pleasant surprise at work. I am more willing to spend a bit more for an overall more awesome experience and more future-proofing.

I play games - watch movies - and watch football. Supposedly the 120Hz is better for those things? From what I understand it interpolates a 60Hz signal to 120Hz so it smooths out everything? Really, how "choppy" is 60Hz that it would even need this functionality? I actually have a bit of image processing experience, and adding frames that are not there is no simple task - do these TVs really do this in real time - and well?

As I've said before, I have 0 experience with HDTVs, so personally, I don't even know how a 60Hz HDTV looks for NFL games or 360 games, let alone a 120Hz one. Is the 4671F model worth the extra $400 or should I stick with the 4665?

This is it, thanks for all the help so far.

:beer:
 
My god at Circuit City today they had a 60hz Samsung lcd next to a 120hz Samsung lcd, with BD players hooked up to each - and the difference was like night & day. The 120hz lcd was soooooo much smoother. Almost wished I hadn't seen it, because now I'd like my set replaced. 😉

You shouldn't notice much difference in broadcast cable/satellite because it's a 60i signal, or the xbox because it too is a 60p output. But either HD DVD or Blu-ray player with 24p support, that's where the 120hz screens really shine.
 
I have a 4065F and I absolutely love it. That being said, Amazon dropped the price of the 4071F right after I purchased my set and put it within $100 of what I paid. For this price difference, I would have went with the 4071F if beachcamera wouldn't have had a restocking fee. However, for $400, I'm not sure that it would be worth it on the 46" end. I guess it really comes down to how much you really have to spend, and how long you plan on having the TV for. The 120hz feature is nice, not sure if it's worth an extra 25% over the 65F series though (really "worth" is something that only you can judge). In any case, both are great TVs. The 65F series is plenty capable, and if you go that rout I highly doubt you will be very disappointed. I play 360 on mine a lot and it's great. The reason I went with an LCD was because I wanted it for a computer monitor. If I was just doing games + movies I would definitely have at least considered a plasma (something that might have crossed your mind too). For $2k you may be able to pick up a decent 50" plasma.
 
As already mentioned, the only real benefit of a 120 Hz TV is proper support for a 1080p24 source (HD DVD or Blu-ray player with 1080p24 output).

It's completely irrelevant for broadcast TV.
 
The deed is done.

Went with the $1600 4665.

My Dell 2005fpw has been the best purchase I've ever made - here's hoping this TV will overtake it. Thanks for all the help, guys.
 
Originally posted by: ducci
The deed is done.

Went with the $1600 4665.

My Dell 2005fpw has been the best purchase I've ever made - here's hoping this TV will overtake it. Thanks for all the help, guys.
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This bad boy has a higher resolution and a much much bigger size than the 2005 🙂. I guarantee you wont be regretting it.

I live my 47in Phillips way more than my 2407WFP, and the 2407 has a bigger resolution by a bit. But theres just something awesome about a 47inch desktop with 2 mega pixels of work area.
 
Originally posted by: ducci
Alright people - this is the final question. My Amazon credit all got settled, so it's all systems go. I now have 2 options:

Samsung LNT4665F 46" 1080p LCD HDTV - $1600

Samsung LNT4671F 46" 1080p 120Hz LCD - $2000 HDTV

Now, my budget increased a little bit (a little) since I got a pleasant surprise at work. I am more willing to spend a bit more for an overall more awesome experience and more future-proofing.

I play games - watch movies - and watch football. Supposedly the 120Hz is better for those things? From what I understand it interpolates a 60Hz signal to 120Hz so it smooths out everything? Really, how "choppy" is 60Hz that it would even need this functionality? I actually have a bit of image processing experience, and adding frames that are not there is no simple task - do these TVs really do this in real time - and well?

As I've said before, I have 0 experience with HDTVs, so personally, I don't even know how a 60Hz HDTV looks for NFL games or 360 games, let alone a 120Hz one. Is the 4671F model worth the extra $400 or should I stick with the 4665?

This is it, thanks for all the help so far.

:beer:
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Its not interpolation. 120 is divisible by 24, 30 and 60, so it can display all those frame rates even and smoothly, without skipping or adding frames here or there. Its especially noticible on slow pans.
 
Originally posted by: Eug
As already mentioned, the only real benefit of a 120 Hz TV is proper support for a 1080p24 source (HD DVD or Blu-ray player with 1080p24 output).

It's completely irrelevant for broadcast TV.
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is the ps3 1080p24 capable?
 
Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
Originally posted by: Eug
As already mentioned, the only real benefit of a 120 Hz TV is proper support for a 1080p24 source (HD DVD or Blu-ray player with 1080p24 output).

It's completely irrelevant for broadcast TV.
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is the ps3 1080p24 capable?
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Yes.
 
I was looking at a couple of 60 Hz and 120Hz Samsung and Sony TVs and the 120Hz made a noticeable difference on the Samsung but not much on the Sony TVs.
 
Go with the 120 hz if you can affort that. i have both the 65F and the 71 in my showroom and the 71 is definitly a better picture. The 120hz is a must if you watching sports because LCD tv's are know to get pixelated even if there 1080p trust me i see it every day. The 120hz gets rid of alot of the pixelations and also helps the keep any images clear in fast action such as sports.

The 65 also comes with 2 HDMI's where if you go with the 71 series you will get 3 HDMI

So if you watch a lot of sports you want the 120hz if its just movies and tv then the 65 will be fine.

Both are a good looking tv with good picture quality but the 71 series definitly has better picture quality then the 65.

Also what cool about the 71 series is that all the buttons are touch sensitive so instead of having a actual button that sicks out away from the tv that you have to push down "such as power button".

Also the power button on the 71 series is the blue LED light right at the bottom of the TV.

When you want to turn it on or off you just run you hand by the light and it turns off.

Its a pretty cool tv
 
You could have done yourself a favor. Give up some inputs (that is what a receiver is for) and get a 50" 1080p Panasonic for less than 2k.

Not a big deal though. Any decent HDTV is a HUGE improvement. I doubt you'll regret the decision.
 
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