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Originally posted by: CrimsonChaos
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Many keyboards/digital pianos have these features. I'm not a snob about keyboards, but you must realize that a keyboard is never going to feel or sound like a real piano to an experienced player. With as much as you would spend on a decent digital piano, it might be worth your time to look into a real, used, upright piano. If you shop around, and bring a pianist with you, you could get a good instrument for as much or less than you would spend on a digital.

<--piano performance major.

:thumbsup:

For the amount of money you'll spend on a keyboard that sounds like a real piano, you may as well get a real piano. You can buy cheap keyboards ($500 and less) that have a "real-touch" feature on them. But the sound pales miserably in comparison to a real piano.

People don't buy digital pianos to compete with their acoustic piano on touch or sound (although the sound of many digital pianos is actually far superior to some of the abused pianos I've seen); rather, it's about portability, an ability to record, play different instrument sounds, etc.

I travel a lot, and if it weren't for my Yamaha Clavinova I wouldn't be able to have a piano with me. It's still fairly costly to ship, but nothing close to what it would be for an upright, and still cheaper than it would be to have a piano rented and delivered.

FWIW, the action on some of these Yamahas and Rolands are absolutely fantastic. I prefer them to my upright because the hammer action is mechanically closer to a grand.
 
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: CrimsonChaos
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Many keyboards/digital pianos have these features. I'm not a snob about keyboards, but you must realize that a keyboard is never going to feel or sound like a real piano to an experienced player. With as much as you would spend on a decent digital piano, it might be worth your time to look into a real, used, upright piano. If you shop around, and bring a pianist with you, you could get a good instrument for as much or less than you would spend on a digital.

<--piano performance major.

:thumbsup:

For the amount of money you'll spend on a keyboard that sounds like a real piano, you may as well get a real piano. You can buy cheap keyboards ($500 and less) that have a "real-touch" feature on them. But the sound pales miserably in comparison to a real piano.

People don't buy digital pianos to compete with their acoustic piano on touch or sound (although the sound of many digital pianos is actually far superior to some of the abused pianos I've seen); rather, it's about portability, an ability to record, play different instrument sounds, etc.

I travel a lot, and if it weren't for my Yamaha Clavinova I wouldn't be able to have a piano with me. It's still fairly costly to ship, but nothing close to what it would be for an upright, and still cheaper than it would be to have a piano rented and delivered.

FWIW, the action on some of these Yamahas and Rolands are absolutely fantastic. I prefer them to my upright because the hammer action is mechanically closer to a grand.

I don't buy it. I'm sorry, I know I'm sounding like a complete snob. But playing piano (and yes, keyboards) has been something I've done not just some of the time, but the majority of every day of my life since I was little. I've played many, many, many uprights, grands, and digitals. Digitals never feel or sound convincing. Your other points, however, I completely agree with. Logistically speaking, keyboards can be very effective. And yes, of course if a piano is beaten to all hell, a digital can be a better alternative. A musical theater company I used to play rehearsals for gave up on the terrible grand in their studio (simply had not been maintained), and replaced it with a Kawai digital, which I was pleased about.
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: CrimsonChaos
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Many keyboards/digital pianos have these features. I'm not a snob about keyboards, but you must realize that a keyboard is never going to feel or sound like a real piano to an experienced player. With as much as you would spend on a decent digital piano, it might be worth your time to look into a real, used, upright piano. If you shop around, and bring a pianist with you, you could get a good instrument for as much or less than you would spend on a digital.

<--piano performance major.

:thumbsup:

For the amount of money you'll spend on a keyboard that sounds like a real piano, you may as well get a real piano. You can buy cheap keyboards ($500 and less) that have a "real-touch" feature on them. But the sound pales miserably in comparison to a real piano.

People don't buy digital pianos to compete with their acoustic piano on touch or sound (although the sound of many digital pianos is actually far superior to some of the abused pianos I've seen); rather, it's about portability, an ability to record, play different instrument sounds, etc.

I travel a lot, and if it weren't for my Yamaha Clavinova I wouldn't be able to have a piano with me. It's still fairly costly to ship, but nothing close to what it would be for an upright, and still cheaper than it would be to have a piano rented and delivered.

FWIW, the action on some of these Yamahas and Rolands are absolutely fantastic. I prefer them to my upright because the hammer action is mechanically closer to a grand.

I don't buy it. I'm sorry, I know I'm sounding like a complete snob. But playing piano (and yes, keyboards) has been something I've done not just some of the time, but the majority of every day of my life since I was little. I've played many, many, many uprights, grands, and digitals. Digitals never feel or sound convincing. Your other points, however, I completely agree with. Logistically speaking, keyboards can be very effective. And yes, of course if a piano is beaten to all hell, a digital can be a better alternative. A musical theater company I used to play rehearsals for gave up on the terrible grand in their studio (simply had not been maintained), and replaced it with a Kawai digital, which I was pleased about.


But digitals today have made great leaps and strides. Back in my day a Yamaha KX88 and Akai S900 samples of a Steiny C grand was as good as it comes. As already noted a digital can never compare even to a cheap Chinese upright
 
As already noted a digital can never compare even to a cheap Chinese upright.

I think that's only true for a live setting. When it comes to recordings, digital has come a LONG way!
 
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