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Physics lovers: anyone heard about this antigravity experiment?

bauerbrazil

Senior member
This could be a huge leap in science if it became true. I'm proud Fran de Aquino is brazilian, because we don't make much science.

Look at this email sent to Stephen Hawking by other physicist.

Dear Dr. Aquino,
I've been following your progress in theoretical physics avidly and am especially enthusiastic about your latest paper. Because I think its so important I sent a brief email to Stephen Hawking regarding it. I hope you approve.

Eric Habegger

This is what I sent:

"
Dear Dr. Hawking,
I'm writing this note to you based on the possibility you have not heard of a person who I think just may be revolutionizing physics as we know it. His name is Fran De Aquino and he is a professor of physics in Brazil. In 1987 a paper was published in the European Journal of Physics in which the authors, Donohue and Holstein, with a lot of high powered mathematics, showed a way of renormalization of gravitational equations. Their equations finally rids them of those pesky infinities that normally crop up with gravity. Nothing much happened after this paper was published.

Dr de Aquino has used the renormalization equations to reformulate the classical equations. In his most recent paper submitted to Los Alamos Labs he redefines classical mechanics at the simplest level working backwards from his original insight of the meaning of renormalization to the gravity equations. His first 10 or so papers, also available from Los Alamos, were mathematical extensions from that 1987 paper. The results from these papers are so startling that I won't even mention them for fear of prejudicing you. But these results, as amazing as they will seem, are simply by products of his insights and are not meant to stun. His theories calculate the difference between gravitational mass and inertial mass, what causes those differences, and how to effect those differences. I'll leave it to your curiosity as to what his equations predict.

More to the point is his latest paper, "Kinetic Quantum Gravity". In this paper he works backward from the results he's published in his other papers. That is he doesn't start with the renormalization equations in which his other papers began. Instead he works from first principles - basic particle physics that are now accepted theory and works forward to renormalization and far beyond. Its a stunning work that redefines physics. It is not in my power to describe what he's written nearly as well as he's written it himself.

The reason I'm writing you is because he seems to be toiling in a backwater that the world doesn't want to recognize. His work is so revolutionary I'm afraid his peers are afraid to venture there. And they have good reason. On first appearance his theories give the impression of another "cold fusion" debacle. Physicists are no different than ordinary mortals - they don't want their career paths squashed because they followed an unproven path.

On the other hand I have such confidence in your intellect and integrity that if you read his papers you will KNOW whether there is substance there or not and will act accordingly. I would never expect any less from such a respected theoretician. if you read his work and decide there is substance there - believe me, he could use an advocate like you. Ultimately the scientific world will take a giant leap on that day. Dr Aquino's web site is:
http://www.elo.com.br/~deaquino/

Thanks so much for your time.

Eric Habegger
"

Aquino's website
 
Originally posted by: no0b
Theres sound on that website... I dont trust it...

Well that just blew all his credibility away 🙁
Interesting though, maybe some kind of antigravity device in the future...pretty damn far in the future though.
 
I'm reading his .pdf now... So far it's just the standard derivation of einstein's equations and the hamiltonian equation, but he's being more rigorous with what he defines as mass... splitting all the equations in two really...
 
Originally posted by: everman
Originally posted by: no0b
Theres sound on that website... I dont trust it...

Well that just blew all his credibility away 🙁
Interesting though, maybe some kind of antigravity device in the future...pretty damn far in the future though.

I dont know if you read those papers, but he already made an antigravity experiment.

Come on, how come the music be an issue?

 
Originally posted by: bauerbrazil
This could be a huge leap in science if it became true. I'm proud Fran de Aquino is brazilian, because we don't make much science.

Look at this email sent to Stephen Hawking by other physicist.

Dear Dr. Aquino,
I've been following your progress in theoretical physics avidly and am especially enthusiastic about your latest paper. Because I think its so important I sent a brief email to Stephen Hawking regarding it. I hope you approve.

Eric Habegger

This is what I sent:

"
Dear Dr. Hawking,
I'm writing this note to you based on the possibility you have not heard of a person who I think just may be revolutionizing physics as we know it. His name is Fran De Aquino and he is a professor of physics in Brazil. In 1987 a paper was published in the European Journal of Physics in which the authors, Donohue and Holstein, with a lot of high powered mathematics, showed a way of renormalization of gravitational equations. Their equations finally rids them of those pesky infinities that normally crop up with gravity. Nothing much happened after this paper was published.

Dr de Aquino has used the renormalization equations to reformulate the classical equations. In his most recent paper submitted to Los Alamos Labs he redefines classical mechanics at the simplest level working backwards from his original insight of the meaning of renormalization to the gravity equations. His first 10 or so papers, also available from Los Alamos, were mathematical extensions from that 1987 paper. The results from these papers are so startling that I won't even mention them for fear of prejudicing you. But these results, as amazing as they will seem, are simply by products of his insights and are not meant to stun. His theories calculate the difference between gravitational mass and inertial mass, what causes those differences, and how to effect those differences. I'll leave it to your curiosity as to what his equations predict.

More to the point is his latest paper, "Kinetic Quantum Gravity". In this paper he works backward from the results he's published in his other papers. That is he doesn't start with the renormalization equations in which his other papers began. Instead he works from first principles - basic particle physics that are now accepted theory and works forward to renormalization and far beyond. Its a stunning work that redefines physics. It is not in my power to describe what he's written nearly as well as he's written it himself.

The reason I'm writing you is because he seems to be toiling in a backwater that the world doesn't want to recognize. His work is so revolutionary I'm afraid his peers are afraid to venture there. And they have good reason. On first appearance his theories give the impression of another "cold fusion" debacle. Physicists are no different than ordinary mortals - they don't want their career paths squashed because they followed an unproven path.

On the other hand I have such confidence in your intellect and integrity that if you read his papers you will KNOW whether there is substance there or not and will act accordingly. I would never expect any less from such a respected theoretician. if you read his work and decide there is substance there - believe me, he could use an advocate like you. Ultimately the scientific world will take a giant leap on that day. Dr Aquino's web site is:
http://www.elo.com.br/~deaquino/

Thanks so much for your time.

Eric Habegger
"

Aquino's website
so you are saying that this is proof of something you didn't show, just because someone sends hawking an-email?
edited for a new little keyboard and spelling

 
gravitational mass and inertial mass

WTF is gravitational mass I've never heard of it

I've heard of inertia but that deals with rotational motion...
 
Originally posted by: no0b
gravitational mass and inertial mass

WTF is gravitational mass I've never heard of it

I've heard of inertia but that deals with rotational motion...

Read the .pdf. He makes a supposition that there are two separate kinds of mass, gravitational and inertial. Gravitational mass being the mass that effects gravitational fields. Some very very interesting equations have popped out of his suppositions so far (I'm on page 7 of 12 right now), namely the fact that Mg is solely responsible for your relativistic increase in mass... Reducing your Mg to zero would allow you to travel at speeds greater than that of light. Your momentum and energy would also be zero... Hogwash you say? It could explain many types of neutrinos, as well as providing an explanation for theorized tachyons...
 
Originally posted by: GroundZero
so you are saying that this is proof of something you didn't show, just because someone sends hawking an-email?
edited for a new little keyboarrd and spelling


I didn't say this, i just put this topic for people who knows about physics and have interest to read his papers. His work is been analised and so far, nobody said anything against.

Did you see the lifters link? I found that really interesting.


 
Oh, and inertia doesn't necessarily deal with rotational motion (you're thinking moment of inertia). Inertia is the "stuff" that makes it harder to accelerate a dump truck as opposed to a civic.
 
so is this a TOE-type expansion on classical physics? I haven't read through it but it looks a hell of a lot simpler than 11-dimensional strings vibrating.
 
Hehehe.

In this site, they tried everything to replicate the experiment, but have no sucess. They didn't achieve some parameters of ressonance and found some errors, sent an email and had no answer from Aquino.

2 possibilities. Aquino never get the experiment to work or he did, and now he's working for the government.

Looks like his theoretical work is good.

 
IIRC there has already been succesful anti-gravity experiments using a superconductor and a metal disk or something like that.
 
Originally posted by: bauerbrazil
Hehehe.

In this site, they tried everything to replicate the experiment, but have no sucess. They didn't achieve some parameters of ressonance and found some errors, sent an email and had no answer from Aquino.

2 possibilities. Aquino never get the experiment to work or he did, and now he's working for the government.

Looks like his theoretical work is good.

Heh, I read that site and was about to make a post on it when I saw your post 🙂

I read throught their entire experiment. System G doesn't work at all, but one of the earlier sites you found said that Aquino already knew that, and was working on System H. That's when he went silent. Hmmm...
 
Originally posted by: silverpig
His apparent results with system H are here

I saw that.

I'm really intrigued by this.

"I had given up on finding any new information on the De Aquino experiment and tried to put the experiment out of my mind, when three weeks later I mentioned it in passing to Reed Murray -- a former investigator for the Disclosure Project, a renowned UFO-investigation organization. Surprisingly, not only did Murray know the name "De Aquino", but he also proceeded to tell me that the Disclosure project had received a copy of a video-tape in which De Aquino successfully conducts the System-H experiment, causing the iron-ball to degravitate in a slow manner exactly as De Aquino's theory claims it will. Murray, who no longer works for the Disclosure Project, recalled seeing this video a few months ago, and in his description the video involves a man that he described as elderly in a rather eclectic-looking laboratory standing over a ball attached to what he called a "pendulum" -- this is an almost perfect layman's description of the De Aquino device, and I assure you that I had not told him about what the device looked or performed like before he said this. Murray then further startled me, when he said that he couldn't understand what the man in the video was saying because it was apparently in Spanish, but that when the man switched the power on, the ball began to slowly lift on the balance! I took the information that Murray had given me and contacted Space Energy Access Systems, where Murray had indicated that the tape was now most likely to be found. Jonathan Kolber, the Vice President of Planning and Product Development at SEAS, also remembered seeing the tape. He recalled seeing the same tape that Murray had described several months ago, and agreed with my recounting of Murray's story about what was on it. Neither Jonathan Kolber nor Reed Murray apparently realized the value of the De Aquino video because of the Portuguese audio-track that neither of them spoke. Without knowing in advance that the torsion balance in the De Aquino's tape is not acting upon the iron sphere, neither of them would have immediately realized that the iron-ball is actually exhibiting a negative-gravitational force. Additionally, without the knowledge that the iron-sphere on the balance is composed of pure-iron, it would not be easy to discern the true weight of the device being levitated, which is approximately 100 pounds. Kolber's team set the tape aside pending further information, and it subsequently became lost among the other materials that they frequently receive. For the time being, Jonathan Kolber's group is actively looking for their copy of the De Aquino tape, which they believe is still archived somewhere onsite at SEAS. Perhaps within the next month, enough will be known about this experiment to either validate De Aquino's theory as being a fraud, or as the final crowning achievement of 20thcentury technology"


I'm gonna sleep.


 
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