Physicians vs Gun Owners

jEnus

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(Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept. of HHS)

Physicians:
a. The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
b. Accidental deaths by Physicians per year are 120,000.
c. Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Guns:
a. The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.
b. The number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups) is 1,500.
c. The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.000188.

Statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun
owners. Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."

Fact: Not everone has a gun, but almost everyone has atleast one Doctor.

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wkabel23

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Yeah thanks to George W Bush I just went out and bought an AK-47. Can't trust those damn A-rabs!!
 
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Why don't you pull out the statistics for murder involving guns vs. murder involving surgery?

Dumbass.
 

Mr N8

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Your stats are from like 1997, IIRC. I think the same numbers are in "More Guns, Less Crime."
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.

Yeah, still pleanty from cars, knives, and heavy blunt objects. They'd be up quite a bit. But then again, you'd actually have to get rid of all the guns. Not just the legal ones. Pleanty of guns that are illegal (ie: fully automatic) are obtained via illegal (black market) methods are used illegally (concealed w/o a permit, by felons) to commit illegal (murder, bank robbery) acts. I'm sure making more guns illegal wouldn't change that.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.

Yeah, still pleanty from cars, knives, and heavy blunt objects. They'd be up quite a bit. But then again, you'd actually have to get rid of all the guns. Not just the legal ones. Pleanty of guns that are illegal (ie: fully automatic) are obtained via illegal (black market) methods are used illegally (concealed w/o a permit, by felons) to commit illegal (murder, bank robbery) acts. I'm sure making more guns illegal wouldn't change that.

If you made them illegal then that would mean less guns in circulation, thus less gun crime. It would still be worth it.
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.

Yeah, still pleanty from cars, knives, and heavy blunt objects. They'd be up quite a bit. But then again, you'd actually have to get rid of all the guns. Not just the legal ones. Pleanty of guns that are illegal (ie: fully automatic) are obtained via illegal (black market) methods are used illegally (concealed w/o a permit, by felons) to commit illegal (murder, bank robbery) acts. I'm sure making more guns illegal wouldn't change that.

I agree that making guns illegal is a crappy idea. But I also agree that the original post uses some crappy statistics. I honestly don't think people are trying to increase gun control to reduce the number of people who accidently shoot themselves. I think people are trying to reduce the number of people who use guns to purposely threaten others.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.
Are all women prostitutes? They are equiped to be one... If there were no women, there would be no prostitution.

OK, that's a bit overboard, right?

If you kill everyone with AIDS, it won't exist either. Kill the patient to get rid of the disease. That overboard too?
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.
Are all women prostitutes? They are equiped to be one... If there were no women, there would be no prostitution.

OK, that's a bit overboard, right?

If you kill everyone with AIDS, it won't exist either. Kill the patient to get rid of the disease. That overboard too?

Guns are only meant to kill. There is no reasonable need for firearms in a modern society. The police get paid for a reason.
 

DaveSimmons

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Sounds like practicing medicine should be strictly licensed and require passing an exam, and that all doctors should be registered.
 

Kilrsat

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.
Are all women prostitutes? They are equiped to be one... If there were no women, there would be no prostitution.

OK, that's a bit overboard, right?

If you kill everyone with AIDS, it won't exist either. Kill the patient to get rid of the disease. That overboard too?

Guns are only meant to kill. There is no reasonable need for firearms in a modern society. The police get paid for a reason.
Yes, they get paid to investigate after you're dead.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Kilrsat
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.
Are all women prostitutes? They are equiped to be one... If there were no women, there would be no prostitution.

OK, that's a bit overboard, right?

If you kill everyone with AIDS, it won't exist either. Kill the patient to get rid of the disease. That overboard too?

Guns are only meant to kill. There is no reasonable need for firearms in a modern society. The police get paid for a reason.
Yes, they get paid to investigate after you're dead.

They are supposed to protect us too.
 

illustri

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.
Are all women prostitutes? They are equiped to be one... If there were no women, there would be no prostitution.

OK, that's a bit overboard, right?

If you kill everyone with AIDS, it won't exist either. Kill the patient to get rid of the disease. That overboard too?

Guns are only meant to kill. There is no reasonable need for firearms in a modern society. The police get paid for a reason.

but i need my gun to protect me FROM the police
 

Demon-Xanth

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.
Are all women prostitutes? They are equiped to be one... If there were no women, there would be no prostitution.

OK, that's a bit overboard, right?

If you kill everyone with AIDS, it won't exist either. Kill the patient to get rid of the disease. That overboard too?

Baseball bats are only meant to Bludgeon things. There is no reasonable need for baseball bats in a modern society. The police get paid for a reason.

Still correct?
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Kilrsat
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.
Are all women prostitutes? They are equiped to be one... If there were no women, there would be no prostitution.

OK, that's a bit overboard, right?

If you kill everyone with AIDS, it won't exist either. Kill the patient to get rid of the disease. That overboard too?

Guns are only meant to kill. There is no reasonable need for firearms in a modern society. The police get paid for a reason.
Yes, they get paid to investigate after you're dead.

They are supposed to protect us too.

sure. but they can't. that is fact.

 

K1052

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Originally posted by: illustri
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: K1052
If there were no guns there would be no gun deaths.
Are all women prostitutes? They are equiped to be one... If there were no women, there would be no prostitution.

OK, that's a bit overboard, right?

If you kill everyone with AIDS, it won't exist either. Kill the patient to get rid of the disease. That overboard too?

Guns are only meant to kill. There is no reasonable need for firearms in a modern society. The police get paid for a reason.

but i need my gun to protect me FROM the police

You will just end up killing or hurting yourself anyway. Guns are inherently dangerous.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
Yeah thanks to George W Bush I just went out and bought an AK-47. Can't trust those damn A-rabs!!


i've had an ak loong before the AWB expired. nice try though