Photo thread. Not my usual stuff. Have a look!

Wallydraigle

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Near my house is a 4500 and some odd acre tract of reclaimed strip mines called Perry State Forest. For those who don't know what a strip mine is, basically the coal company comes and scrapes all the dirt and rocks out of an area. They dig down into the earth sometimes hundreds of feet until they reach the coal. Decades ago when the coal was removed, that's where the process stopped, the coal company just packed up and left a huge gaping crater in the ground, surrounded by shale fields and wasteland. Now there are laws making the coal companies clean up after themselves somewhat, but the land is still pretty much worthless even after it has been reclaimed, and will be so probably for the future of the human race. The result is Perry State Forest. Inside, the three largest of these strip pits are named Lake Buckeye, Lake Essington, and Miles Lake.

This is Lake Essington. It looks lush and peaceful, and it is to an extent. But what can't really be told from the picture is that this is a sulphur pond. In the 90s there was a study done on this pond to find out how bacteria metabolize the sulphur in strip pits like this. The study showed that in the summer time when the bacteria are active they were only able to consume less than half of the sulphur that leaches into the water, and in the winter it's even less than that, something like 10%. Exess sulphur that the water can't hold is deposited as CaSO4. What this means is that the lake has no means to clean itself and it will be devoid of life forever.

Across the access road from Lake Essington is what this thread is all about. I've spent many years walking through Perry State Forest, but it's a big place. I was never aware that there was a cemetery inside it's borders. I saw the new sign and became intrigued. I love cemeteries, especially old ones. I like to walk around in them and look at the stones, see the lichens and mosses growing on them, and try to imagine what things must have been like for the people there when they were alive. I tried to take this picture so that you can see where the sign is pointing. There's kind of a bank there, and a thin strip of grass between the sign and the woods. I see no cemetery, so it must be inside the trees.

On the edge of the woods there are growing some wild daylillies, or cow lillies. These grow everywhere, and aren't a sign of human activity.

Inside the woods looks green and peaceful. Still no sign of a cemetery, but there seems to be a very faint trail. I see an orange ribbon hanging in a tree up ahead. Those less wood crafty sometimes leave ribbons in the trees, Hansel and Grettle style, so they can find their way back. It would appear that all I have to do is follow the ribbons that the last person left. More convenient, but less fun. I like to find things on my own. I almost took the ribbons down so as not to spoil it for the next guy, but I didn't.

Not far ahead I see periwinkle growing on the ground. Periwinkle is not a native plant, but it is common around places where people live, or used to live. I knew I was getting close.

And here it is. Not much to see, but worth the walk in the woods. It looks like the coal company scooped up the tombstones, and the foundation stones of a small house into a big pile, and stripped around it. The stones are broken and very old, and not much can be read of them, but one of the stones clearly has the initials Z.S. I do not believe that the actual graves are here, just the relocated stones since they are all in a pile. Some more shots in and around the cemetery here, here, here, and here. This stone looks like a foundation stone, but i don't know what's up with the strange hole in it. Maybe it was held in place by a piece of wood or something. I don't know. This stone has a lot of writing still visible on it. It belongs to Rachel Shreve, who died in 1825. This stone has the most discernable information of them all.


It's kind of ironic. I can't find any information about these people on the internet. A perusal of the local library may turn something up, maybe not. They were probably settlers who helped tame the land that became Ohio. They lived out their entire lives never imagining that someday people all over the world would be reading about them, and even know their names. Gives me kind of a strange feeling.


I just realized that this post shows the coal companies in sort of a negative light. This isn't my intention at all. The coal companies of Ohio helped make our state, and even our nation what it is today. Without them, who knows how things might have turned out? I'm not going to be the judge of anybody, I'm just showing a piece of history as it turned out.


Just one more deep thought. I'm kind of disappointed that the little cemetery has fallen into such a state of decay, especially since there are still people in my county named Shreve who must certainly be decendents of these people, but really, should I be? I believe that the earth belongs to the living, and that tying up the land with graves is wrong. I'm going to be cremated when I die so that I'm not still taking up real estate years after I no longer need it. Today, when people buy plots of land, and tombstones, and get burried in a cemetery, do they expect that their graves will be intact forever? For the future of planet earth? Forever is a long time. I never understood this, and I'm curious about it. That's a little shortsighted if that's the case. Eventually all the land all over the whole world would be a big graveyard, and there would be no room left for the living. On the other hand, graves like those of the Shreves have historical merit in a sense. Should they be preserved at all? How do you feel about this?


Let me know what you think.
 

m2kewl

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i like these pics better then the insect closeups :)

A++ quality/resolution again
 

BillGates

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Nice post - something worthwhile to read here for once! I do agree with your points on burying people and wasting space. What's the point? Tradition sure isn't a valid one in my opinion. It isn't necessity either.
 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: Azraele
Great pics and sad story.


Thanks. It is kind of a sad story, but then Perry State Forest is a sad place. Especially in the winter, when it's all grey and bare looking. It reminds me of when Frodo and Sam were in the wasteland in front of the gates of Mordor. The first time I read that part I knew that Tolkien had gotten the idea for it from a strip mine.

 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: BillGates
Nice post - something worthwhile to read here for once! I do agree with your points on burying people and wasting space. What's the point? Tradition sure isn't a valid one in my opinion. It isn't necessity either.


I'm really kind of torn on this. On the one hand it seems like a waste, but on the other hand some of the greatest works of man have been tombs. If nothing else I guess death incites us to build great things. Are things like the Taj Mahal, or the Pyramids a waste of space? I don't know, maybe they are. We can't all have such grand sepulchres, or there would be no room left for our children. But at the same time it's good that a few people have tombs such as these so we can learn from them. I don't know. I don't think that I have much to offer achaeologists of the future, so I'll just be cremated. I can only decide for myself.
 

Eli

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I like your normal pictures better, but these pictures are very nice - mostly because of the story that goes with them. :)

Heh, while walking through the big field in my backyard the other day, I saw a huge colony of aphids living on a .. i'm not sure what it is, some sort of thistle-type plant. It grows very tall, like 7 feet with flower stalks.. the flowers are these puffs of thorns.. with purple flowers.. and then they die into these thorny puff things.. there are thorns all along the stems.. anyway, there were two ladybugs having dinner down at the base all the aphids along the stem.. there was also a steady stream of ants milking the aphids.. it was interesting.


I couldn't help but think of what a cool shot it probably would've been.. hehe.
 

Miramonti

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I was in awe of the insect closeups but most of these shots don't do much for me either way.

My favorite tho is the "inside the woods" (shreve4)...I look at it and feel a stillness, as if I can here myself breath, hehe.
 

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Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
What camera do you use, lirion? Is it digital?

Same question I have. Amazing quality...

Suggestion to lirion put your equipment's specs in your sig :)
 

simms

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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
What camera do you use, lirion? Is it digital?

Same question I have. Amazing quality...

Suggestion to lirion put your equipment's specs in your sig :)

motion 2nded.

I like the story.. at first I was going to skip the story and just look at the pics, but I couldn't bear myself do to so.

-Simon
 

screw3d

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I think lirion uses a Canon DSLR? (seen this in one of his previous posts) Not sure which one though
 

GeekDrew

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lirion -

Wasn't it Star Mining Co that mined those lands? I'm 99% sure that it was, but not 100%.

(I doubt anyone else will know the answer to this one... lirion and I live in the same area... but if you do know the answer, let me know. I will find out for sure tomorrow sometime.)

Drew
 

Wallydraigle

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Originally posted by: GeekDrew
lirion -

Wasn't it Star Mining Co that mined those lands? I'm 99% sure that it was, but not 100%.

(I doubt anyone else will know the answer to this one... lirion and I live in the same area... but if you do know the answer, let me know. I will find out for sure tomorrow sometime.)

Drew

I'm not really sure who mined Perry State Forest. It could have been Star, but Peabody was also big in this area before they went under. There's not a whole lot about the forest online, not surprizingly. The local library has a book about it, but it was checked out when I was there the other day. Let me know what you find out.


About equipment, these shots were made with my Canon EOS D60, and my 28-70mm f/2.8 L lens. They were mostly taken wide open at f/2.8, with slow shutter speeds, and I think ISO 200. This kind of thing isn't really what I usually do, I just thought this place was kind of cool and wanted to get some pictures. Hayabusarider suggested that these kind of shots sometimes look a lot better in black and white. I'm not a big fan of black and white, but I messed around with it some and I do agree that for this kind of subject matter it does give a totally different, more somber feel to the photos that's very appropriate.

Thanks for looking !:)