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Photo and video editing system help

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photoamat

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Hi all,
My existing computer doesn't want to start. so I am building a new system with a US$1400.00 budget. I will be primarily using this system for Home photo and video editing. One majore requirement - firewire to connect my camcorder. Here is what I have selected so far:
AMD 64 4000+ - zzf - (535.00)
MSI K8n Neo4 platinum - zzf - (137.00)
PCIe xfx geforce 6600 gt - zzf - (179.00)
Lian li pc-60 - ewiz - 111.00
seasonic s12 430w - ewiz - 76.00
ocz pc3200 premier (1gb) - monarch - 122.00
seagate 160gb - fry's - 70.00

I already have a plextor dvdr+/- rw, logitech speakers, logitech cordless duo and a 7-in 1 card reader, and dvico hdtv tuner. I will also be installing the existing 160gb and 250gb ide drives into this.

here are my questions:
1. Is the powersupply sufficient?
2. is the amd 64 4000+ an overkill?

Believe me I can use the extra money I save for othere stuff (wintv hauppauge 150??).

thanks every one for your input.
 
1. That powersupply is very nice, it should be plenty for you.
2. I would definately bump it down to a 3800+, probably to a 3500+ or even a 3200+.

 
I'd get a little bit slower CPU, such as the 3800 or 3500, and more ram. In the case of photo/video editing, having 2 gig of ram would actualy be helpful.
 
thanks, that saves me a close to 300.00. Do you thing I might get an advantage by going for a cas2 memory and overclocking the 3200? Of course in that case I will get the 49.00 Zalman CuAl heatsink.
 
Would it affect performance if I have 4 sticks of memory? I was planning on getting 1gb now and another 1gb later.
 
For photo and especially video editing I'd wait for the dual core chips, either Intel or Amd if you have to have one or the other. It will make a BIG difference in render and encode times. Plus you'll still have the use of the computer when doing either.

Single Athlon and non HT P4s choke on video editing and rendering (IMO)
 
Dell had a press release sent out yesterday about their upcoming dual-core offerings in their server pc line and also their new versions of the Extreme Edition P4s. No specifics on exactly when they will be available though. My current Dimension 8400 2.6 Ghz hyperthreaded P4 runs Premiere Pro great with real time playback to my monitor and tv also. But I am going to wait for the dual core systems for my next video editing workstation. I'll be ready for Hi-Def (HDV) by then 🙂
 
Originally posted by: photoamat
Hi all,
My existing computer doesn't want to start. so I am building a new system with a US$1400.00 budget. I will be primarily using this system for Home photo and video editing. One majore requirement - firewire to connect my camcorder. Here is what I have selected so far:
AMD 64 4000+ - zzf - (535.00)
MSI K8n Neo4 platinum - zzf - (137.00)
PCIe xfx geforce 6600 gt - zzf - (179.00)
Lian li pc-60 - ewiz - 111.00
seasonic s12 430w - ewiz - 76.00
ocz pc3200 premier (1gb) - monarch - 122.00
seagate 160gb - fry's - 70.00

I already have a plextor dvdr+/- rw, logitech speakers, logitech cordless duo and a 7-in 1 card reader, and dvico hdtv tuner. I will also be installing the existing 160gb and 250gb ide drives into this.

here are my questions:
1. Is the powersupply sufficient?
2. is the amd 64 4000+ an overkill?

Believe me I can use the extra money I save for othere stuff (wintv hauppauge 150??).

thanks every one for your input.
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Since you say home video, that system should be fine. If you are going upscale on your NLE (Avid, Vegas, Premiere, Pinnacle Liquid, Canopus), the answer would vary. Throwing CPU at a NLE is a good thing. It really is the CPU that does all of the work on most NLEs. Faster is better, and currently, like for like Intel is slightly better than AMD. BUT, the AMD system you have spec'ed is very capable. Not comparing price, a 4000 AMD is good, but if there is a big price diff with the 3800, consider that.

I know nothing about that brand of PSU, but the wattage is in range. Remember that you are also have 3 HDDs and 2 disc drives, so erring on the high side is not a bad thing.

Most importantly, you have 360GB of extra drive space you are adding. That would be equal to about 13 projects with a full tape (13GB per hour AVI, plus MPEG workspace and DVD source.)

The 6600GT is a little overkill for most NLEs in the home range. But, if you use Studio 9, it will add some performance. Pinnacle products like ATI better, but if you are using another suite, that would be cool too.

Oh, don't over clock. There can be audio/video sync issues introduced with over-clocking.

Also, get a CL Audigy 2 ZS or M-Audio card. On board audio can lead to sync issues with audio.

 
I'd get a Athlon 64 3000 {venice if available} and overclock it as best as possible. Then with the money you save you can upgrade to a dual core Athlon 64 which will rock for video editing and photo editing.
 
I don't have to have the lian li pc. But the case was very light and had some good cooling. What is the difference between the case you mentioned - lian li PC-7A Plus and the lian li pc-60?

Also, for everybody's info my primary pc at home crashed. So not knowing when the dual cores will be out, waiting for more than two weeks is not possible for me. I have to put together this pc in the next two weeks.

Night crawler,
How would I go about recognizing the venice core? your suggestion seems more viable. I haven't read much on dual core yet. What price range would the dual cores be?

One more question - is there enough space on the MSI k8n neo4 motherboard to install a zalman cnps7000 heatsinks??

Once again, Thanks a lot for all the input.



 
Originally posted by: photoamat


Also, for everybody's info my primary pc at home crashed. So not knowing when the dual cores will be out, waiting for more than two weeks is not possible for me. I have to put together this pc in the next two weeks.

Night crawler,
How would I go about recognizing the venice core? your suggestion seems more viable. I haven't read much on dual core yet. What price range would the dual cores be?
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They usually tell you like this one at newegg is: Core: Winchester,

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=19-103-501&DEPA=0

It's suppose to be released on April 15 is the latest rumour but who knows.

Single core is $150 so I expect dual core to cost $250 at least.




 
What editing program do you use? If it supports dual monitors then I highly suggest you get a second monitor. Also, do you game? If not then there is no need for the high end graphics as the majority of vid/editing programs do not require a 3D graphics card.

Judging from your PSU pick, I'm guessing you're going for a quiet computer. If this is then case, then I would suggest a Zalman 7000b for your heat sink. I have one and I'm very pleased with it's preformance
 
Originally posted by: teutonicknight
What editing program do you use? If it supports dual monitors then I highly suggest you get a second monitor. Also, do you game? If not then there is no need for the high end graphics as the majority of vid/editing programs do not require a 3D graphics card.

Judging from your PSU pick, I'm guessing you're going for a quiet computer. If this is then case, then I would suggest a Zalman 7000b for your heat sink. I have one and I'm very pleased with it's preformance
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I was planning on either a dell 24" lcd or two dell 2005 FPWs. Would the Zalman 7000b fit on a MSI K8n Neo4 platinum mother board??
 
Here is the system I finally ordered:
AMD 3700+ venice core
MSI K8N neo4 platinum - no sli
ocz gold vx 1gb
antec tx1088amg with truepower 480 2.0 version
leadtek geforce 6600 gt dth

I ordered all the above from monarch computer as they are locally located in atlanta. Has to wait until May 20th to get the venice core.

Thanks a lot everybody for your help.
 
Hi gsellis:

"Oh, don't over clock. There can be audio/video sync issues introduced with over-clocking."

Could you elaborate, please? I am building a budget video editing machine and was considering using the 10% overclock option in BIOS of my Asus P4C800-E rev. 2 Deluxe (AI Overclock tuner)
 
Originally posted by: mshan
Hi gsellis:

"Oh, don't over clock. There can be audio/video sync issues introduced with over-clocking."

Could you elaborate, please? I am building a budget video editing machine and was considering using the 10% overclock option in BIOS of my Asus P4C800-E rev. 2 Deluxe (AI Overclock tuner)
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Some MPEG Coders will not keep audio and video in synch on over-clocked machines. I have not seen it myself. I suspect it could be a CPU vs bus clock speed thing as audio chipset can be used to massage the audio while the CPU is handling the video.

Another thing to remember is that NLEs and animation generating software push the envelope on system demand. Any instability from OC'ing will be more pronounced at the worst time. I know I can take my dual up to 80-85% CPU utilization during some big ops (avg across 4 - the HT 'processors' bring the average down).
 
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