I thought it would be boring to have an entire movie in one spot but it really made no difference to me. I thought it was really neat and it kept my interest plus I didn't find it predictable, which is a plus. I watched it with the commentary later and it was intersting. apparently they filmed the whole thing in ten consecutive days.
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The movie kept me on the edge of my seat but I must say I was kind of pissed that they gave us 0 information on Kiefer's character. What is his motive? What is his background? Why did he choose this particular target? Etc. Without that info it just seemed kind of ridiculous in retrospect.
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I was thinking "wow, this seems like it would be interesting", cool idea and all to have it just in a phonebooth. Very average movie though. Not good, not bad, it just simply was a movie.
I was thinking "wow, this seems like it would be interesting", cool idea and all to have it just in a phonebooth. Very average movie though. Not good, not bad, it just simply was a movie.
blurredvision
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Um, it's been a while since I've seen it, but wasn't the pizza guy a pawn to throw the cops off? At the end of the movie, the cops thought it was the pizza guy who was the killer, and ended up just killing himself before it was over with. So the real killer got away for his next victim.Originally posted by: Balt
***SPOILERS BELOW***
(if you didn't expect them in this thread you are a numbskull anyway)
That was the biggest problem I had with the movie. WTF did the pizza guy do to deserve getting his throat slit?
Anyway, I still thought it was pretty good for what it was.
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Um, it's been a while since I've seen it, but wasn't the pizza guy a pawn to throw the cops off? At the end of the movie, the cops thought it was the pizza guy who was the killer, and ended up just killing himself before it was over with. So the real killer got away for his next victim.Originally posted by: Balt
***SPOILERS BELOW***
(if you didn't expect them in this thread you are a numbskull anyway)
That was the biggest problem I had with the movie. WTF did the pizza guy do to deserve getting his throat slit?
Anyway, I still thought it was pretty good for what it was.
yeah, but i think they are asking "if this guy is sort of an anti-hero, vigilante-style batman type...why is he killing to turn the main characters life around? how is this one life more important than the other?"
Colin Farrell's fake NY accent: -1
Directed by Joel Schumacher: - 1
Kiefer Sutherland as the caller: +1
Forest Whitaker as Captain Ramey: +1
Score: 0
Directed by Joel Schumacher: - 1
Kiefer Sutherland as the caller: +1
Forest Whitaker as Captain Ramey: +1
Score: 0
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Um, it's been a while since I've seen it, but wasn't the pizza guy a pawn to throw the cops off? At the end of the movie, the cops thought it was the pizza guy who was the killer, and ended up just killing himself before it was over with. So the real killer got away for his next victim.Originally posted by: Balt
***SPOILERS BELOW***
(if you didn't expect them in this thread you are a numbskull anyway)
That was the biggest problem I had with the movie. WTF did the pizza guy do to deserve getting his throat slit?
Anyway, I still thought it was pretty good for what it was.
Yep, that was the motive for killing the pizza guy.
I thought it was a good movie. Interesting premise and good suspense. I wouldn't say it was the greatest movie in the world, but I liked it.
Originally posted by: purbeast0
well the cab driver who was shot in aspen hill was my friends father
:Q
Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Um, it's been a while since I've seen it, but wasn't the pizza guy a pawn to throw the cops off? At the end of the movie, the cops thought it was the pizza guy who was the killer, and ended up just killing himself before it was over with. So the real killer got away for his next victim.Originally posted by: Balt
***SPOILERS BELOW***
(if you didn't expect them in this thread you are a numbskull anyway)
That was the biggest problem I had with the movie. WTF did the pizza guy do to deserve getting his throat slit?
Anyway, I still thought it was pretty good for what it was.
yeah, but i think they are asking "if this guy is sort of an anti-hero, vigilante-style batman type...why is he killing to turn the main characters life around? how is this one life more important than the other?"
Yep, that's what I was getting at. As far as we know, the pizza guy didn't do anything that Sutherland's holier-than-thou character would feel right killing him over. The whole point of bugging Stu was to turn him into a better person, right? So he's going to kill some innocent pizza delivery guy to accomplish that?
Balls.
It was so so. Those freaking strippers REALLY irritated me to no end. I wanted to reach through my t.v. and punch them myself. How f'ing stupid could they be to stand right there next to the bouncer type dude who got capped and think that Colin's character did it. That whole part of the movie with them acting like fools and accusing him of it almost ruined it for me.
DanTMWTMP
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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Um, it's been a while since I've seen it, but wasn't the pizza guy a pawn to throw the cops off? At the end of the movie, the cops thought it was the pizza guy who was the killer, and ended up just killing himself before it was over with. So the real killer got away for his next victim.Originally posted by: Balt
***SPOILERS BELOW***
(if you didn't expect them in this thread you are a numbskull anyway)
That was the biggest problem I had with the movie. WTF did the pizza guy do to deserve getting his throat slit?
Anyway, I still thought it was pretty good for what it was.
yeah, but i think they are asking "if this guy is sort of an anti-hero, vigilante-style batman type...why is he killing to turn the main characters life around? how is this one life more important than the other?"
Yep, that's what I was getting at. As far as we know, the pizza guy didn't do anything that Sutherland's holier-than-thou character would feel right killing him over. The whole point of bugging Stu was to turn him into a better person, right? So he's going to kill some innocent pizza delivery guy to accomplish that?
Balls.
I myself liked the movie and thought colin ferrel's acting was pretty damn good in this movie to portray cockiness to helplessness to desperation. It was really convincing.
Also yeah, your discussions about the pizza guy dying are all good points, except if it didn't happen, then his msg and escape wouldn't have been so easy.
I'd say the the sutherland's character knew colin's character from before, and thought the pizza guy's life was not worth saving then colin's character's life.
But of course the producered probably did that on purpose so the audience can discuss about that, like what we're doing right now. hehe
blurredvision
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Balt = 1, blurredvision = 0. Thanks for explaining.Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Um, it's been a while since I've seen it, but wasn't the pizza guy a pawn to throw the cops off? At the end of the movie, the cops thought it was the pizza guy who was the killer, and ended up just killing himself before it was over with. So the real killer got away for his next victim.Originally posted by: Balt
***SPOILERS BELOW***
(if you didn't expect them in this thread you are a numbskull anyway)
That was the biggest problem I had with the movie. WTF did the pizza guy do to deserve getting his throat slit?
Anyway, I still thought it was pretty good for what it was.
yeah, but i think they are asking "if this guy is sort of an anti-hero, vigilante-style batman type...why is he killing to turn the main characters life around? how is this one life more important than the other?"
Yep, that's what I was getting at. As far as we know, the pizza guy didn't do anything that Sutherland's holier-than-thou character would feel right killing him over. The whole point of bugging Stu was to turn him into a better person, right? So he's going to kill some innocent pizza delivery guy to accomplish that?
Balls.
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