OffTopic1

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It is a success, and IMHO tastes better than pho that I gets at restaurants. And, next time I?ll try to add some diakon as my gf ?miss Chinese package noodle? suggested. I boiled the bones & let simmered last night for 2 hours then leave to cool, and skimed the fat off surface this morning. Total cooking time 4.5 hours and yeild 9 quarts of broth. The GF & I had some for dinner and the left over broth is now in single portions tupperware in the freezer :)


Broth:
10 quarts of water
5 lbs beef bones
1 lbs carrots
2 onions
1 ginger - slices & roasted.
2 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoon fishsauce.
2 teaspoon peppercorns (uncrack)
2 cinnamon sticks
6 cloves (whole)
2 teaspoon coriander seeds.
1 stick of cane sugar (can substitute 1 table spoon of brown sugar)

[edit] Rice noodles serve with fresh bean sprouts, fresh basil, fresh cilantro, lime wedges, chili paste, hoisin sauce, and thin sliced beef.

Thank you for the correction.

Total Broth was $8.00 CAD (about $6.50 USD)
Rice noodles - $1.00 CAD for 1 lbs dried (4 servings)
Herbs & sauce - about $0.50 CAD per serving
Beef -- $6.70 CAD lbs.

Estimate cost per serving is about $3.50 CAD ($2.85 USD) per serving.
 

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Originally posted by: OffTopic

It is a success, and IMHO tastes better than pho that I gets at restaurants. And, next time I?ll try to add some diakon as my gf ?miss Chinese package noodle? suggested. I boiled the bones & let simmered last night for 2 hours then leave to cool, and skimed the fat off surface this morning. Total cooking time 4.5 hours and yeild 9 quarts of broth had some for dinner and the left over broth is now in single portions tupperware in the freezer :)


Broth:
10 quarts of water
5 lbs beef bones
1 lbs carrots
2 onions
1 ginger - slices & roasted.
2 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoon fishsauce.
2 teaspoon peppercorns (uncrack)
2 cinnamon sticks
6 cloves (whole)
2 teaspoon coriander seeds.

Rice noodles serve with fresh bean sprouts, fresh basil, fresh cilantro, lime wedges, chili paste, and hosing sauce.


I think it is hoisin sauce...


hosing sauce sounds nasty
 

andylawcc

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whao, you are a brave man, i would never imagine making that stuff myself.!!!

:thumbups; and :pho to you!!!
 

EvilYoda

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That's one complicated bowl of pho...I'm sure it tastes great, but to me, pho should be extremely simple.

Although after the initial cooking, I guess the subsequent times will be really simple :p
 

OffTopic1

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Originally posted by: EvilYoda
That's one complicated bowl of pho...I'm sure it tastes great, but to me, pho should be extremely simple.

Although after the initial cooking, I guess the subsequent times will be really simple :p
It didn't take me that long. It took about 15 min to prepare the broth. Total cooking time was the time that it took to simmer while I did other things around the house.
 

apoppin

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pho is really "bone soup" . . . .

i specialize in (organically grown) chicken pho and cook the chicken bones in a slow cooker until they are soft (the meat is taken out after a hour or 2) . . . great flavour.

edit: i'd love to open a restaurant and call it the "Pho King"
:shocked:

:roll:

:D
 

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I love pho, but it's too difficult to make. Too much prep time for broth and too much ingredients to gather... especially since I like it with tendons and tripe. $6/serving isn't so much to ask once in a while.

I don't get what the hoisin sauce is for. Dipping the meat? I had a bowl of that at the Vietnamese place near my workplace and I had no clue what to do with it. I normally eat it with chili sauce (the ones with actual pepper seeds, not the srirachi (sp?) sauce).
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: ghostman
I love pho, but it's too difficult to make. Too much prep time for broth and too much ingredients to gather... especially since I like it with tendons and tripe. $6/serving isn't so much to ask once in a while.

I don't get what the hoisin sauce is for. Dipping the meat? I had a bowl of that at the Vietnamese place near my workplace and I had no clue what to do with it. I normally eat it with chili sauce (the ones with actual pepper seeds, not the srirachi (sp?) sauce).

You add it in the soup. Adds a lot of flavor.
 

andylawcc

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
What the phock is Pho?

- M4H


Google is your friend!

j/k

by definition Pho stands for Noodles in vietnamese.

and Pho basically is soup noodle, usually with thinnly sliced raw-medium beef.
 

OffTopic1

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: ghostman
I love pho, but it's too difficult to make. Too much prep time for broth and too much ingredients to gather... especially since I like it with tendons and tripe. $6/serving isn't so much to ask once in a while.

I don't get what the hoisin sauce is for. Dipping the meat? I had a bowl of that at the Vietnamese place near my workplace and I had no clue what to do with it. I normally eat it with chili sauce (the ones with actual pepper seeds, not the srirachi (sp?) sauce).

You add it in the soup. Adds a lot of flavor.
You can do what ever you want with it. Some people don't like it because they think it smell & taste moldy. Put a small quantity of hoisin & chili on a plate and dip your tendons/tripe/beef in it to try. Add a small portion in your soup if you like the taste.
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
pho is really "bone soup" . . . .

i specialize in (organically grown) chicken pho and cook the chicken bones in a slow cooker until they are soft (the meat is taken out after a hour or 2) . . . great flavour.

edit: i'd love to open a restaurant and call it the "Pho King"
:shocked:

:roll:

:D

Less than a mile from my house is "Pho Kim." I dont have a digital camera, or I'd post a pic.
 

OffTopic1

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Originally posted by: Doodoo
U forgot the msg and star anise
I never cook with MSG & I can't stand the smell of anise.

My mother over use of anise has turn me off it forever.
 

vexingv

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my mother also uses star anise (along w. some other weird herbs/spices) and some msg when she makes it. also chopped parsley for garnish.

for those who say its too time consuming, i take the short cut and use canned beef broth and season/spice that to my liking. works pretty well.
 

Svnla

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If you want good pho, you need to let it sit and simmer overnights, yes, for hours.

I know how to cook it but haven't for a while because of the commitment of time and effort for a good bowl of pho.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Svnla
If you want good pho, you need to let it sit and simmer overnights, yes, for hours.

I know how to cook it but haven't for a while because of the commitment of time and effort for a good bowl of pho.
it really doesn't take long - prep wise . . . just cooking time (and i have never stood and waited for it).:p
:roll:

i use a slo-cooker . . . and it may take DAYS . . . . (actually i get the first chicken pho about 12 hours after i start it; add more water and cook it another day or two . . . the flavor continues to change as the bones flavour it.) i also tend to use more onion than the recipies call for