no-one knows the price$ or performance of the new HD5xxx series yet, so it is a shot in the dark to say what the final prices will be, but i am sure at the price of a 4870 (if they release one that low right off the bat) then it wont be much of a performance gain i would think. maybe power saved
no-one knows the price$ or performance of the new HD5xxx series yet, so it is a shot in the dark to say what the final prices will be, but i am sure at the price of a 4870 (if they release one that low right off the bat) then it wont be much of a performance gain i would think. maybe power saved
In sites the people say it will be released in September, this mount 
, so this mounth, the people say the HD5000 Series will be really very good. I really want to run DirectX 11, so you think I wait with my actual 8600GT is an idiocy? The people said: HD 5870 X2 = $499. HD 5870 = $299. HD 5850 = $199. HD 5830 = $149. HD 5670 = $99. HD 5650 = $89. HD 5550 = $49. In Brazil the prices are 2x or 4x more expensive than EUA, you know? Normally is 2x? In Brazil a HD4770 costs R$400,00 and a man said he can sell me it for R$600,00 -.-. But its an idiocy I wait for the HD5000 Series? Because I don't want be replacing my hardwares direct, I want a final config.
, so this mounth, the people say the HD5000 Series will be really very good. I really want to run DirectX 11, so you think I wait with my actual 8600GT is an idiocy? The people said: HD 5870 X2 = $499. HD 5870 = $299. HD 5850 = $199. HD 5830 = $149. HD 5670 = $99. HD 5650 = $89. HD 5550 = $49. In Brazil the prices are 2x or 4x more expensive than EUA, you know? Normally is 2x? In Brazil a HD4770 costs R$400,00 and a man said he can sell me it for R$600,00 -.-. But its an idiocy I wait for the HD5000 Series? Because I don't want be replacing my hardwares direct, I want a final config.in the US hd 4870 = ~$125-150
i dont see the HD5830 being much better if any than HD4870
with alot of games turning to console ports i would say HD4870 will last you a couple years
of course if you wait there will always be somethnig better at the same price range
i dont see the HD5830 being much better if any than HD4870
with alot of games turning to console ports i would say HD4870 will last you a couple years
of course if you wait there will always be somethnig better at the same price range
I read the new RV870 will be 20% better than RV770. I am thinking now in get a HD5650, because it is 40nm, runs DirectX 11 and has good clocks, it will costs like $99.
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Most likely the a "5650" part will be slower than the current Radeon HD4870. A 5650 part would probably perform like the current HD4850, so about 30% slower than the HD4870. It would still be a HUGE upgrade from an 8600GT.
I think you should wait for the new cards to come out. See what their prices will be in Brazil before making a decision. If something is important to you, like DX11, then you should just go with your gut. At most you'll only have to wait about two months.
I think you should wait for the new cards to come out. See what their prices will be in Brazil before making a decision. If something is important to you, like DX11, then you should just go with your gut. At most you'll only have to wait about two months.
3 questions:
1- You think can I buy HD4870 and use it for 2 years, and in 2 years it would be considered "decent"? I want a GPU for 2 years, my mum asks me if I will buy a new GPU every time, I say no. If I buy a HD4870 can I use it happy by 2 years?
2- The architeture of HD4870 is 55nm, this architeture is bad?
3- The difference of DirectX 10.1 to 11 will be very very very large? I don't want to be frustated thinking I was an idiot to buy a GPU with 10.1 and lose the chance to use the DirectX 11. The question is: I need a new GPU urgent! I hate nVIDIA and Intel, my first objetctive is put off nVIDIA of my PC, i don't want this in my PC. I want AMD/ATI only.
1- You think can I buy HD4870 and use it for 2 years, and in 2 years it would be considered "decent"? I want a GPU for 2 years, my mum asks me if I will buy a new GPU every time, I say no. If I buy a HD4870 can I use it happy by 2 years?
2- The architeture of HD4870 is 55nm, this architeture is bad?
3- The difference of DirectX 10.1 to 11 will be very very very large? I don't want to be frustated thinking I was an idiot to buy a GPU with 10.1 and lose the chance to use the DirectX 11. The question is: I need a new GPU urgent! I hate nVIDIA and Intel, my first objetctive is put off nVIDIA of my PC, i don't want this in my PC. I want AMD/ATI only.
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1. I really don't know. Could it last you 2 years? Yes, I definitely think it can last 2 years.
2. Nope, it isn't bad at all.
3. Actually DX11 is not a huge difference than DX10.1. DX11 contains everything DX10 does, but it also has a little bit more.
2. Nope, it isn't bad at all.
3. Actually DX11 is not a huge difference than DX10.1. DX11 contains everything DX10 does, but it also has a little bit more.
If you can live with a low end video card 3 years after its introduction (the 8600 series was only marketed as midrange, it was cut down waaay too much from its big brother, the 8800) you'll be very happy with a high end card 3 years after its debut.
The bigger question is: can your power supply hack it, or will it catch fire and explode taking the rest of your machine with it once you try to plug a high end video card in on top of a power hungry Phenom? I'm unfamiliar with the C3 brand, but if it's a low end unit it probably struggled producing 400 watts sustained when new, and several of years on its capacitors later is not going to be in spec anywhere near peak load of your quad + high end GPU.
As far as your OP: sure, some stock core2 duals (e.g, E6750, E8400) and most overclocked C2Ds are better for today's gaming than your Phenom. But not enough so to warrant a platform switch.
The bigger question is: can your power supply hack it, or will it catch fire and explode taking the rest of your machine with it once you try to plug a high end video card in on top of a power hungry Phenom? I'm unfamiliar with the C3 brand, but if it's a low end unit it probably struggled producing 400 watts sustained when new, and several of years on its capacitors later is not going to be in spec anywhere near peak load of your quad + high end GPU.
As far as your OP: sure, some stock core2 duals (e.g, E6750, E8400) and most overclocked C2Ds are better for today's gaming than your Phenom. But not enough so to warrant a platform switch.
400W no, I think my power supply gives at least 500W, because in the box of it have
Potência Total Combinada (Total Combined Potence): 600W
Potência Operacional Combinada (Operational Combined Potence): 500W
It has active PFC, a FAN of 140nm and has protect against shorting. Seriously, you think I will be happy using this GPU for 2 years? 2 years using HD4870.
I think I won't buy this GPU, I don't have money for it now imagine for a new PC, if my font explodes and my PC broken .
Potência Total Combinada (Total Combined Potence): 600W
Potência Operacional Combinada (Operational Combined Potence): 500W
It has active PFC, a FAN of 140nm and has protect against shorting. Seriously, you think I will be happy using this GPU for 2 years? 2 years using HD4870.
I think I won't buy this GPU
, I don't have money for it now imagine for a new PC, if my font explodes and my PC broken .Originally posted by: Miti1st
400W no, I think my power supply gives at least 500W, because in the box of it have
Potência Total Combinada (Total Combined Potence): 600W
Potência Operacional Combinada (Operational Combined Potence): 500W
It has active PFC, a FAN of 140nm and has protect against shorting. Seriously, you think I will be happy using this GPU for 2 years? 2 years using HD4870.
I think I won't buy this GPU
The PSU is a decent one, looks like a good enough one to handle a new Card just fine...
Don't listen to the others they are Just spreading bull....
http://opiniao.mercadolivre.co...-5060v-600w-554399-VCP
About the HD4870, can I use it for 2 years happy and it will run applications and games well? For me running the actual games in Very High and the 2 years later games in Medium is good for me, I don't want to be changing the GPU for a long time.
Pode me disse os forums brasileiros que estava falando no seu primeiro post. Eu nao so brazileiro mas moravo no brasil alguns anos atras. Gostaria de ver forums como esta em portugues. Obrigado, falou.
btw I have the 4870 and I don't plan on upgrading for two years either. I'm very happy with the card and I'm sure you would be too.
btw I have the 4870 and I don't plan on upgrading for two years either. I'm very happy with the card and I'm sure you would be too.
http://www.guiadohardware.net/...434&highlight=dsa5060v
kcXTREME
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Ela segura sua config, porem não é uma fonte tão boa. Tenta amigão pegar uma OCZ SXS 400w, ela custa uns 180 reais. (She holds your config, however it is not as good a powersupply. Try to get a buddy OCZ SXS 400W, it costs about 180 reais).
http://www.guiadohardware.net/...de/c3-dsa5060v/999727/
A topic created by me, a man says that my font only have 400W, its true?
AMD Phenom X4 9550 + Foxconn AMD VS A6VMX + Markvision 2 GB DDR2-667 + HDD Samsung IDE 80 GB @ 7200 RPM + ATI Radeon HD4870 + Cooler SHARKS HPD-815, this config will consume much?
kcXTREME
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Ela segura sua config, porem não é uma fonte tão boa. Tenta amigão pegar uma OCZ SXS 400w, ela custa uns 180 reais. (She holds your config, however it is not as good a powersupply. Try to get a buddy OCZ SXS 400W, it costs about 180 reais).
http://www.guiadohardware.net/...de/c3-dsa5060v/999727/
A topic created by me, a man says that my font only have 400W, its true
?AMD Phenom X4 9550 + Foxconn AMD VS A6VMX + Markvision 2 GB DDR2-667 + HDD Samsung IDE 80 GB @ 7200 RPM + ATI Radeon HD4870 + Cooler SHARKS HPD-815, this config will consume much?
Seria bem legal entender Português. Eu tenho que dependem fortemente Traduz Google para entender qualquer idioma diferente do Inglês.
Corrigindo: Seria bem legal entender o Português, eu tenho que depender fortemente das traduções do Google para entender qualquer idiota diferente do Inglês. (You aren't bad in portuguese, have to improve just a little. The other countries should learn Portuguese, like here we learn English .
.Originally posted by: Miti1st
http://www.guiadohardware.net/...434&highlight=dsa5060v
kcXTREME
Super Participante
Ela segura sua config, porem não é uma fonte tão boa. Tenta amigão pegar uma OCZ SXS 400w, ela custa uns 180 reais. (She holds your config, however it is not as good a powersupply. Try to get a buddy OCZ SXS 400W, it costs about 180 reais).
http://www.guiadohardware.net/...de/c3-dsa5060v/999727/
A topic created by me, a man says that my font only have 400W, its true
AMD Phenom X4 9550 + Foxconn AMD VS A6VMX + Markvision 2 GB DDR2-667 + HDD Samsung IDE 80 GB @ 7200 RPM + ATI Radeon HD4870 + Cooler SHARKS HPD-815, this config will consume much?
A Tecnologia C3 é um CWT PSU Re-marcado, e CWT faz boas provisões, somos limitados pelos tradutores que é com certeza.
Um HD4870 ou 4890 está indo ser um bom cartão para você junto a um longo tempo...
Se você precisar de ajuda de alguém no futuro Mensagem somente Privada eles Eles o ajudarão como eles têm aqui.
So (então) a HD4890 can run good with my DSA-5060V (a HD4890 pode rodar legal com a minha DSA-5060V) ? I thought that my DSA-5060V only is good for a HD4870 (eu achava que a minha DSA-5060V só é boa para a HD4870).
Tip (dica): Graphics Card, GPU, we called "placa de vídeo".
Thanks for all (Obrigado por tudo)
Hugs (Abraços).
? I thought that my DSA-5060V only is good for a HD4870 (eu achava que a minha DSA-5060V só é boa para a HD4870). Tip (dica): Graphics Card, GPU, we called "placa de vídeo"
.Thanks for all (Obrigado por tudo)
Hugs (Abraços).
But my Phenom 9550 + HD4870 will be good this combination for games? Can I use this PC for more 2 years happy? Thanks.
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