Phenom x4 9550 experience

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nanaki333

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Well, I changed out a 9500 I had in a VMware test machine with a 9550. Got everything installed and running. Loaded up 2 XP Virtual Machines and loaded up prime95 in both. Maxed 1 of them out and got BSoD on a VM and it rebooted. Tried it again and same thing. Then I ran prime on both VMs and the entire server just locked up. At this point, I just grabbed an old intel mobo and an extra q6600 I had laying around and threw that in. Now the 9550 is collecting dust.

I thought AMD fixed this issue? I have a nice HSF on it too, so I know that's not the issue. The processor was idling about 35C in the BIOS. Oh well.

EDIT: Running the latest BIOS
 
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Sorry for your experience....

I don't think any more needs to be said, this kind of covers it....
 
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I'm confused. I thought the "9X50" product code denoted a B3 :confused:. Or is that a typo in the OP and you meant a different CPU?
 
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nanaki333

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yeah.. you would think that. if you read, i used to have the phenom 9500, which i replaced with a 9550, which caused hard lockups when i maxed 2 VMs out with prime. don't always believe what you read, i believe things that i see with my own eyes.
 
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Well making sure it's not the RAM that's the culprit comes to mind. Or are you using the same RAM with your Q6600? Just wondering.
 
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Maybe the cpu is bad. That doesn't mean that all AMD Phenoms you can buy are broken. Just use the warranty and change it.
 
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I dont think its the processor. You should take a closer look to see what the real culprit might be in this situation.
 
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The TLB bug doesn't affect many people, a AMD document lists like 4 software combinations that cause it, no more.
I run a 9500 (without the fix) 24/7 in distributed computing, that means 24/7 stress tests for weeks without any problems!
 
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Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I dont think its the processor. You should take a closer look to see what the real culprit might be in this situation.
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Agreed...the CPU would be the last suspect I would have on this.
Ram, software, and motherboard would come far sooner.
 
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nanaki333

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jesus christ people. it's the processor. the ram has been tested before when i had the 9500 in there to make sure it wasn't that. hell, my first 9500 died within the first week actually and i had to rma it. i made a post about that one awhile back. there's nothing wrong with my ram. both the mobo and memory work fine with an X2, which from an older post worked just fine, so i know it's not the mobo, ram, psu, none of that. the mobo was advertised to specifically work with phenom, running the latest bios. talk about AMD fanboys uniting.
 
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Originally posted by: nanaki333
jesus christ people. it's the processor. the ram has been tested before when i had the 9500 in there to make sure it wasn't that. hell, my first 9500 died within the first week actually and i had to rma it. i made a post about that one awhile back. there's nothing wrong with my ram. both the mobo and memory work fine with an X2, which from an older post worked just fine, so i know it's not the mobo, ram, psu, none of that. the mobo was advertised to specifically work with phenom, running the latest bios. talk about AMD fanboys uniting.
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Just chill...

Working with an X2 has nothing to do with working with an X4...
Remember that the X4 uses the AM2+ and X2 only AM2.
The boards will act and function differently with different types of chips...

Talk about an anti-AMD user...:)

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Just re-read that...so you had the first CPU die on the same mobo, PSU, and Ram setup, and you still only suspect the CPU for the second time?

Edit 2: I would get a new mobo first...there may be a problem with the split power planes on the one you have. That wouldn't effect the X2, but would effect the X4...
 
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nanaki333

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i guess i really should have posted this in my old thread. different mobo entirely. i replaced the mobo when the first cpu died. everything was replaced. this was just a test bed. i'm not anti-AMD. 90% of my servers are dual core AMD machines simply because they're cheap to build and give me more than enough processing power, since most everything i run eats memory, not cpu. i'll throw it in another monkey box i have and move my VM array over and throw it in there to calm the nay-sayers when i have time. i don't know if my particular processor is bad or what, but the fact remains, all signs point to this processor. i've been doing this long enough to rule things out. the 9500 replacement processor i got from the RMA worked fine in both boards.
 
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I guess I'm just skeptical because a friend installed 20 barcelona systems 3 months ago (using the B2 stepping even), and the each run 8 XP VM machines...
Even his 3 week stress tests have been absolutely error free on all machines.
 
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nanaki333

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just to make all of you happy, i put the mobo and some different memory in a spare case. gonna get esx running on it and do the same exact thing i did with both the 9500 and the 9550.

viditor, i guess the computer gods are just telling me to stay away from quad core phenoms. my 9500 was bad at first and needed an rma. looks like my 9550 is headed down the same route. like i said, i like amd, i prefer to build all my servers with them as it's excellent bag for the buck, but i'm going to stick with intel for any quad builds i have for now.
 
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Originally posted by: nanaki333
just to make all of you happy, i put the mobo and some different memory in a spare case. gonna get esx running on it and do the same exact thing i did with both the 9500 and the 9550.

viditor, i guess the computer gods are just telling me to stay away from quad core phenoms. my 9500 was bad at first and needed an rma. looks like my 9550 is headed down the same route. like i said, i like amd, i prefer to build all my servers with them as it's excellent bag for the buck, but i'm going to stick with intel for any quad builds i have for now.
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What are the specs of your system?

Edit:also, have you done ANY overclocking?
 
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nanaki333

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i have not done any overclocking on these phenoms or my servers. i overclock at home and have my q9550 running with a mild overclock to 3.4 on water. don't care to go much farther.

i'm putting together a system with another board, a gigabyte ga-m61p-s3 with 4GB A-DATA DDR2 800 and an antec 500W PSU and gonna try both phenoms in there. i ripped the original mobo out already and put a q6600 in it. i have the 9550 in there right now installing esx.
 
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Originally posted by: nanaki333
i have not done any overclocking on these phenoms or my servers. i overclock at home and have my q9550 running with a mild overclock to 3.4 on water. don't care to go much farther.

i'm putting together a system with another board, a gigabyte ga-m61p-s3 with 4GB A-DATA DDR2 800 and an antec 500W PSU and gonna try both phenoms in there. i ripped the original mobo out already and put a q6600 in it. i have the 9550 in there right now installing esx.
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You may want to re-think that...the spec for that mobo reads

"Supports AMD Phenom X3/ Athlon X2 processors*"

Note that it doesn't support X4 CPUs...
 
Cookie Monster

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Problem solved. People forget to check whether if their old AM2 mobos support the new phenom X4s. (most require a BIOs update)
 
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Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: nanaki333
i have not done any overclocking on these phenoms or my servers. i overclock at home and have my q9550 running with a mild overclock to 3.4 on water. don't care to go much farther.

i'm putting together a system with another board, a gigabyte ga-m61p-s3 with 4GB A-DATA DDR2 800 and an antec 500W PSU and gonna try both phenoms in there. i ripped the original mobo out already and put a q6600 in it. i have the 9550 in there right now installing esx.
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You may want to re-think that...the spec for that mobo reads

"Supports AMD Phenom X3/ Athlon X2 processors*"

Note that it doesn't support X4 CPUs...
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no, they work. i just did my prime'ing with the 9550 and it hard locked after about 20 minutes at stock speeds. i'm running the 9500 right now and it's been going for about an hour. i think i may have just gotten a bad chip.

this is directly from gigabyte's website.


http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Sup...st.aspx?ProductID=2434

AMD Phenom X4 9650 2300Mhz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 F7E
AMD Phenom X4 9600 2300Mhz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B2 95W 3600 F7E
AMD Phenom X4 9550 2200Mhz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 F7E
AMD Phenom X4 9500 2200Mhz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B2 95W 3600 F7C


i'm just gonna shut it down and rma the 9550.
 
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Originally posted by: nanaki333
Originally posted by: Viditor
Originally posted by: nanaki333
i have not done any overclocking on these phenoms or my servers. i overclock at home and have my q9550 running with a mild overclock to 3.4 on water. don't care to go much farther.

i'm putting together a system with another board, a gigabyte ga-m61p-s3 with 4GB A-DATA DDR2 800 and an antec 500W PSU and gonna try both phenoms in there. i ripped the original mobo out already and put a q6600 in it. i have the 9550 in there right now installing esx.
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You may want to re-think that...the spec for that mobo reads

"Supports AMD Phenom X3/ Athlon X2 processors*"

Note that it doesn't support X4 CPUs...
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no, they work. i just did my prime'ing with the 9550 and it hard locked after about 20 minutes at stock speeds. i'm running the 9500 right now and it's been going for about an hour. i think i may have just gotten a bad chip.

this is directly from gigabyte's website.


http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Sup...st.aspx?ProductID=2434

AMD Phenom X4 9650 2300Mhz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 F7E
AMD Phenom X4 9600 2300Mhz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B2 95W 3600 F7E
AMD Phenom X4 9550 2200Mhz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B3 95W 3600 F7E
AMD Phenom X4 9500 2200Mhz 512KBx4 2MB Agena 65nm B2 95W 3600 F7C


i'm just gonna shut it down and rma the 9550.
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As you will...but think about what you're saying here:

1. You're using the mobo manufacturer's absolute cheapest mobo which is only partially compatible with X4 (only some models) and they don't even state compatability in their main advertising.

2. Two new CPUs have died, and those CPUs don't have a reputation for doing so.

3. There is even a warning about AM2+ chips (though this is only concerning HT)

4. The chipset used in the mobo (6100/430) is far older than any AM2+ chip, so any compatability is probably a hack in the bios...

Do you still believe that the CPU is the most likely problem? ;)
 
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