Phenom II 965
Price is $249. TDP is 140w. Perhaps this means AMD's 45nm process is about as mature as it gets.
Price is $249. TDP is 140w. Perhaps this means AMD's 45nm process is about as mature as it gets.
Phenom II 965 link to newegg
- Thread starter Eeqmcsq
- Start date
BTRY B 529th FA BN
Lifer
- Nov 26, 2005
- 15,196
- 403
- 126
richierich1212
Platinum Member
- Jul 5, 2002
- 2,741
- 360
- 126
eternalone
Golden Member
- Sep 10, 2008
- 1,500
- 2
- 81
Awesome Im waiting till the price goes down though are they really gonna release a 4.ghz Phenom 2 x4 to compete with i5 when it comes out or is that just rumor??
Hopefully that would be my next upgrade.
Hopefully that would be my next upgrade.
i bet they can get one more out in the 140W range. the fact that this is 140W tdp just means it uses more than 125 watts.
955 is 3.2ghz and 125W, this 965 is 3.4ghz and 140W. I wouldn't be surprised if it was literally the same processor. By that I mean they took the exact same binning level then set it to run 200mhz faster. This style of factory overclocking isn't really new for AMD. Remember the Phenom I? Those were factory overclocked; they had no head room at all. It's not a bad move on AMD's part since most computers are OEM computers. If I get an AMD based computer from HP or Acer, I can't overclock it myself, so it might as well be factory overclocked.
If the shit hits the fan, they could always release 6 core Phenom II processors. The beauty is that they wouldn't need to develop anything new since these already exist. six-core AMD Istanbul - $450. That would be bad ass if they released a desktop version.
According to the AT review it only uses 3 watts more under load than the 955. Idle power is very low as well. I think it looks like a very solid option for it's price point. It gives the Q9650 a run for it's money and even surpasses the i7 920 here and there. Obivously not the fastest thing on the planet, but not too bad for $249 either. It looks like they were able to top out around 4GHz as well when overcocking.
It's so nice what kind of hardware you can get these days without breaking the bank. An i7 920 or Ph2 965 coupled with a 4890 and the prices 4GB-8GB of memory are going for can really build a very powerful system for not too much money.
It's so nice what kind of hardware you can get these days without breaking the bank. An i7 920 or Ph2 965 coupled with a 4890 and the prices 4GB-8GB of memory are going for can really build a very powerful system for not too much money.
Sorry, is that a referral link you posted?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...82E16819103692&Tpk=965 That is the regular product URL.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...82E16819103692&Tpk=965 That is the regular product URL.
Really? My 9850 runs at 3GHz at only 1.35v...and I can run it at 3.2GHz as well but voltage has to be upped to 1.45v. This is up from a stock of 2.5GHz (or maybe 2.6Ghz). It's nothing like the Intel CPUs but it's not too bad.
No, links for whatever reason nowadays have that dynamitedata thing in front. No idea why.
Nope, I didn't post the referral link. I posted the original newegg link. This forum automatically converts certain links to refer through dynamitedata.com. I believe this thread discusses the change made a couple months ago.
My point is that they sold the Phenom at the absolute highest speed possible for a given voltage. For something like an E6600 or Q6600, the processor can be overclocked by 400mhz at stock voltage. A Phenom I is already at that state when it leaves the factory, so I say it's factory overclocked. My Phenom 9600 won't budge at stock voltage, but it can be overclocked by 300mhz if voltage is boosted up to 1.35V.
There's nothing wrong with them "overclocking" the processors in this way. If it passes prime95 and the speed of the chip is exactly what it says on the box, you got what you paid for.
I just noticed something in the Anandtech article.
Isn't the Vcore on the 955 only 1.35V? This literally is the same processor. They boosted the voltage by 0.05V and raised the speed 200mhz.
some of the other sites that isolate the cpu alone are saying it actually uses somethingl ike 20 watts more. like xbitlabs.
the idle is always going to be the same because all amd cpus cool and quiet down to the same speed and voltage (in the same family). so every phenom 9xx will be the same more or less.
TurtleCrusher
Lifer
- Apr 20, 2008
- 10,067
- 990
- 126
Anyone else think AMD might pull out a 3.6ghz variant over the next few months after i5 comes out?
No doubt this CPU can be there stable 24/7.
No doubt this CPU can be there stable 24/7.
exar333
Diamond Member
- Feb 7, 2004
- 8,518
- 8
- 91
Maybe, but I don't know if they want to surpass the 140W TDP. If manufactoring gets better, and the 965 is lowered to 125, then we might see a 140TDP 3.6ghz variant. This is really on the upper end of the power usage already, and I don't see them increasing it much more until power usage improves a little.
Many people are speculating 3.8GHz before the end of the year at this rate, and 4GHz at least for the peak that Phenom II will reach during 2010 before being replaced with bulldozer in 2011 (hopefully).
If yields continue to improve at this pace and another revision (C3 cause current is C2 IIRC) next year it is possible that 4GHz can be kept at the 140W spec isn't it?
If yields continue to improve at this pace and another revision (C3 cause current is C2 IIRC) next year it is possible that 4GHz can be kept at the 140W spec isn't it?
I've got a 9850BE and 940BE, the 9850BE overclocked just as well as my 940 does.
9850 stock 2.5Ghz @ 1.3V. I was able to undervolt the stock clock speed so it runs 2.5Ghz @ 1.2V while I'm also able to achieve 3.0Ghz @ 1.35V. I know it'll go higher yet but I don't have the cooling for it.
940 stock 3.0Ghz @ 1.35V. I actually run it 3.4Ghz @ 1.325V, mean while 3.5Ghz needs 1.4V and I've never gotten 3.6Ghz stable.
i got an 830Mhz OC on my 9850BE to 3.33Ghz
900Mhz OC on my 940BE to 3.9Ghz
and 1.125Ghz OC on my 720BE WITH a 4th core unlocked to 3.925Ghz
none of these were dissapointing to me in the OC department, but the AM3 variant was very impressive.
As for the 965BE it is a great chip, i still think they should have waited another month or so and released the speed bump at 125W, but this might show how mature the PHII is and that we wont see the acclaimed 4ghz at 45nm
900Mhz OC on my 940BE to 3.9Ghz
and 1.125Ghz OC on my 720BE WITH a 4th core unlocked to 3.925Ghz
none of these were dissapointing to me in the OC department, but the AM3 variant was very impressive.
As for the 965BE it is a great chip, i still think they should have waited another month or so and released the speed bump at 125W, but this might show how mature the PHII is and that we wont see the acclaimed 4ghz at 45nm
I believe their roadmaps include a 3.8Ghz in late 2009/early 2010, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Phenom II reach 4Ghz or 4.2Ghz before retiring.
BTW, Phenom II seems so far behind the i7 that this is practically Pentium 4 versus Athlon 64 all over again. It needs nearly 1Ghz faster clocks just to compete, and sometimes that's not enough.
richierich1212
Platinum Member
- Jul 5, 2002
- 2,741
- 360
- 126
What he means is that AMD is better/more aggressive with binning Phenom than they were in the past.
TRENDING THREADS
-
Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)- Started by DisEnchantment
- Replies: 25K
-
Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads
- Started by Tigerick
- Replies: 24K
-
Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread- Started by TheF34RChannel
- Replies: 23K
-
-
Facebook
Twitter