Phenom II 920 a good match for a 295GTX?

garritynet

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I just initiated the BFG trade up program to move from a 9800GTX to a 295. I currently have a AMD 6000+. Should I spring for the 940 or will the 920 suffice?
 

garritynet

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No overclocking here, my MB is a dog for OCing. I can barely get my 6000+ @ 3.1 gigs to 3.25. Thats with a 1.5 vcore, so I just leave it stock. I have a M3N78-VM. I like the board and I chose it for reasons other than overclocking.
 

Extelleron

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Phenom II 920 at stock with a GTX 295 is going to be a CPU bottleneck IMO. A Phenom II 920 equals maybe a Q9300 in gaming (2.5GHz), meanwhile there is a considerable performance improvement going from even a QX9770 -> Core i7 965 when running GT200 SLI configurations.

If you're going for the fastest graphics card on the market, you should really make sure the rest of your system components match it - Phenom II 940 overclocked / 790FX along with a GTX 295 would be a good setup, but I'm not sure that Phenom II 920 @ stock / GF 8200 board is going to be a great match for a 295.

Since you say your board is a bad overclocker, you may be better off with a Phenom II 940 - with an unlocked multiplier the board isn't as much of a factor, as long as it can deliver the power needs (which shouldn't be too big of a problem considering these Denebs consume much less than the 9850/9950). You can get a 940 for $260 @ newegg if you enter AMD1815 as a promo code.

Phenom II 940 @ 3.6-3.8GHz + GTX 295 is looking like a much better setup IMO. :thumbsup:


 

heyheybooboo

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Without knowing your monitor resolution it's hard to say ... I'm guessin' it's pretty high.

And it won't do yah any good because of your trade-up but there's a good looking combo with a Phenom 920 and a SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 4870 X2 for $600 AR
 

garritynet

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Since you say your board is a bad overclocker, you may be better off with a Phenom II 940 - with an unlocked multiplier the board isn't as much of a factor, as long as it can deliver the power needs (which shouldn't be too big of a problem considering these Denebs consume much less than the 9850/9950). You can get a 940 for $260 @ newegg if you enter AMD1815 as a promo code. Phenom II 940 @ 3.6-3.8GHz + GTX 295 is looking like a much better setup IMO

Yeah, thats what I was thinking too. Didn't know you could get the 940 for $260. I know it seems weird to be penny-pinching when upgrading to a 295 but its penny-pinching that makes it possible in the first place. :thumbsup:

I really dig Hybrid Power because I have a SilverStone Sugo SG02-F case that I like to keep right on top of my desk next to my monitor and nothing in the case makes more racket than the video card fans. After two years of my last computer being a giant box that drove me up the wall with noise I decided that small and silent were my biggest priority. So the 8200 chipset, AMD processors and Nvidia video cards were my strange requirements when I built, and now upgrading, my computer.
 

garritynet

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Without knowing your monitor resolution it's hard to say ... I'm guessin' it's pretty high.


1680*1050 and before you tell me its overkill let me tell you that in the six years that I have been building and upgrading computers that I have never purchased a video card and not wished that I had got something faster instead of the card with the best price/performance ratio.

 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: garritynet
No overclocking here, my MB is a dog for OCing. I can barely get my 6000+ @ 3.1 gigs to 3.25. Thats with a 1.5 vcore, so I just leave it stock. I have a M3N78-VM. I like the board and I chose it for reasons other than overclocking.

Actually, your mobo might not be a dog for OCing. The 6000+ is pretty close to the ceiling for what the X2's can hit, so it's natural that there's not much overhead.

I have a GF8200-based motherboard and overclocked a X2 4000+ by nearly 50%.
 

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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: garritynet
No overclocking here, my MB is a dog for OCing. I can barely get my 6000+ @ 3.1 gigs to 3.25. Thats with a 1.5 vcore, so I just leave it stock. I have a M3N78-VM. I like the board and I chose it for reasons other than overclocking.

Actually, your mobo might not be a dog for OCing. The 6000+ is pretty close to the ceiling for what the X2's can hit, so it's natural that there's not much overhead.

I have a GF8200-based motherboard and overclocked a X2 4000+ by nearly 50%.

Agreed! the 6000+ is the dog to overclock its probably not a board issue. I would spring for the 920 you will probably be able to get it to around the same OC as a 940.
 
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Originally posted by: AsusGuy
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: garritynet
No overclocking here, my MB is a dog for OCing. I can barely get my 6000+ @ 3.1 gigs to 3.25. Thats with a 1.5 vcore, so I just leave it stock. I have a M3N78-VM. I like the board and I chose it for reasons other than overclocking.

Actually, your mobo might not be a dog for OCing. The 6000+ is pretty close to the ceiling for what the X2's can hit, so it's natural that there's not much overhead.

I have a GF8200-based motherboard and overclocked a X2 4000+ by nearly 50%.

Agreed! the 6000+ is the dog to overclock its probably not a board issue. I would spring for the 920 you will probably be able to get it to around the same OC as a 940.

Hm. Can anyone else report on the ocability of that mobo? I'd hate for him to get the 920 and not be able to do anything with it. The 940 would be easier to OC anyways-- just up the multi till you cant-- no concerns that you might be FSB limited.

Now we just need some benchies to tell us if the branch prediction is any good (like the Core 2's, higher fsb doesn't gain you more than about 1-2% performance improvement).
 

cusideabelincoln

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There's no way his motherboard is "FSB" limited when he's overclocking his 6000+. The 6000+ just can't go that much higher. 3.2 GHz is pretty much as far as you can take Brisbanes. But I do agree the Phenom 940 would be a better match, and would be worth the extra $30-$40.
 

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Originally posted by: AsusGuy
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: garritynet
No overclocking here, my MB is a dog for OCing. I can barely get my 6000+ @ 3.1 gigs to 3.25. Thats with a 1.5 vcore, so I just leave it stock. I have a M3N78-VM. I like the board and I chose it for reasons other than overclocking.

Actually, your mobo might not be a dog for OCing. The 6000+ is pretty close to the ceiling for what the X2's can hit, so it's natural that there's not much overhead.

I have a GF8200-based motherboard and overclocked a X2 4000+ by nearly 50%.

Agreed! the 6000+ is the dog to overclock its probably not a board issue. I would spring for the 920 you will probably be able to get it to around the same OC as a 940.

I agree that its probably his 6000+ hitting its limit rather than the motherboard being a dog as he calls it. I've got an X2 5000 BE that won't run stable at 3.2, and I've got an X2 7750 BE that can't remain stable at 3.2.

Personally I would still spring for the 940 BE, but I just enjoy having that unlocked multiplier.
 

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Definitely the 940, the unlocked multiplier is worth the extra bucks. :)
 

garritynet

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Yeah, I think I'll spring the extra $25 for the 940. With the coupon its a price of $235 + shipping or $260 and free shipping. I guess I'll know for sure when I order. :p

Took my 9800GTX out of the case and boxed it up for BFG. While I was in there I noticed that I only have an Antec Neo Power 550. Not gonna cut it if some of these benchmarks are to be believed.

Anyone know a good modular PSU that won't break the bank. Modular is a must as there is no place in my tiny case to put the un-used cables. I could just stick them between the CPU and the ram.....or I could just get a modular PSU.
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: garritynet
Took my 9800GTX out of the case and boxed it up for BFG. While I was in there I noticed that I only have an Antec Neo Power 550. Not gonna cut it if some of these benchmarks are to be believed.

Anyone know a good modular PSU that won't break the bank. Modular is a must as there is no place in my tiny case to put the un-used cables. I could just stick them between the CPU and the ram.....or I could just get a modular PSU.

It says it needs a 680W PCI Express-compliant system power supply with a combined 12V current rating of 46A or more.

The minimun I would go with, since you want modular with the possibility of overclocking your cpu is this:
SILVERSTONE 750W Modular $119.99AR

There are cheaper options and it's probably more than what you need but if you ever overclock your processor you'll want something rock solid.