Phenom II 4.4GHz OC score validated

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Phenom II 4.4GHz OC score validated

CPU-Z

CPUz and Franck D to blame

It finally happened, Phenom II, Deneb CPU has been overclocked and validated by CPUz 1.48 all the way to 4.4GHz.

We?ve seen some better scores with LN2, but 4.4GHz from 3.0 quite impressive nonetheless. The guys from canardpc used a Biostar TA790GX motherboard, multiplier 20x220 to reach this nice score but we don?t know what was the voltage for this achievement.


Without further delays, we give you the screenshot here and AMD was specific to tell us a few weeks ago that all Deneb CPUs will overclock well and that the one we?ve seen in Austin were not cherry picked.

Hopefully !

 

[dguy6789]

Is this a real overclock or a completely fake, meaningless, waste of time suicide run? It's impressive if it's the former.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Whatever it is .... it's on a $110 Biostar motherboard

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
Is this a real overclock or a completely fake, meaningless, waste of time suicide run? It's impressive if it's the former.

Reportedly it was under single-stage phase (so around -40C to -50C).

To me its meaningless until it is 24/7 prine stable. Phase doesn't bother me, I use it myself, but air cooling is the standard so I think people will be dissapointed.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

If it was stable at high 3 GHz on air it would be more interesting than at 4.4 GHz on phase...

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
If it was stable at high 3 GHz on air it would be more interesting than at 4.4 GHz on phase...

No kidding.

There are going to be like 6 people who will go out and buy Phenom IIs to put under phase cooling.

Actually I've seen enough of the benchmarks to know that all we need now is a model that's price competitive with the Q6600, It seems like it will OC as well or better, all they need is something in that price range.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Faud

Looks like Faud has been smoking something...

Almost always stable

LMAO... oxymoron...

Intel has never managed to get to over 6GHz and we are sure that Intel is doing some catching up.

It seems to be affecting his memory...

while with a good air cooler you should reach clocks around 4GHz.

Sounds good, but are we supposed to believe that after what you just posted??!?

Edit: I fail at linking

 

[OCGuy]

Give me the news on a 24/7 stable overclock using air cooling with voltage inside AMD spec. Thanks.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Give me the news on a 24/7 stable overclock using air cooling with voltage inside AMD spec. Thanks.

I don't think you hit 4.3GHz at intel spec unless you are taking it to mean <1.45 Vcore...

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Give me the news on a 24/7 stable overclock using air cooling with voltage inside AMD spec. Thanks.

I don't think you hit 4.3GHz at intel spec unless you are taking it to mean <1.45 Vcore...

~1.34V, which is within the 1.3625V intel spec.




These E8600s are amazing.

 

[taltamir]

the people who own a phase cooling system most likely can afford an i7... so how does it compare to an OCed i7 under phase cooling?

a quick searched showed me its 800$ for such a phase changer, unless that one is unusually expensive as far as phase change cooling goes then this does not bode well...
http://www.frozencpu.com/produ...tml?tl=g41&id=mfA2xuwV

EDIT: Ok, found a few other phase change cooling... 800$ is the right price.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Give me the news on a 24/7 stable overclock using air cooling with voltage inside AMD spec. Thanks.

I don't think you hit 4.3GHz at intel spec unless you are taking it to mean <1.45 Vcore...

~1.34V, which is within the 1.3625V intel spec.




These E8600s are amazing.

Nice, looking at xtremesystems those things go like stink!

Someone has an E8600 @4GHz on 1.20 V :Q

E0 FTW I guess...

 

[OCGuy]

Anyone know when the official NDA is up on these things?

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: taltamir
the people who own a phase cooling system most likely can afford an i7... so how does it compare to an OCed i7 under phase cooling?

a quick searched showed me its 800$ for such a phase changer, unless that one is unusually expensive as far as phase change cooling goes then this does not bode well...
http://www.frozencpu.com/produ...tml?tl=g41&id=mfA2xuwV

EDIT: Ok, found a few other phase change cooling... 800$ is the right price.

The vapochill lightspeed is pretty much the best retail phase cooler you are going to find.

All other's will have lower heat discharge capability (phase change stops working if the CPU emits more heat than the cooling capacity of the phase changer).

That said, the heat discharge capability of the vapochill you listed is such that it handles my B3 kenstfield at 4GHz an Vcc of 1.55V. So I think you'd have to push an i7 or a PII north of 5GHz before you'd challenge a vapochill's heat removal capacity.

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Anyone know when the official NDA is up on these things?

January 8th.

Deneb launch dates.

 

[aigomorla]

YaY for AMD....

However, i'll stick with my Neha-EP. :T

I want to see some real scores, not on phase, but on air, using a true, or even water. And i want to see it OCCT or Prime stable.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Give me the news on a 24/7 stable overclock using air cooling with voltage inside AMD spec. Thanks.

I don't think you hit 4.3GHz at intel spec unless you are taking it to mean <1.45 Vcore...

~1.34V, which is within the 1.3625V intel spec.




These E8600s are amazing.

Nice, looking at xtremesystems those things go like stink!

Someone has an E8600 @4GHz on 1.20 V :Q

E0 FTW I guess...

2 hours prime 4.0Ghz @ 1.09v
http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=339g99.jpg

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Idontcare
That said, the heat discharge capability of the vapochill you listed is such that it handles my B3 kenstfield at 4GHz an Vcc of 1.55V. So I think you'd have to push an i7 or a PII north of 5GHz before you'd challenge a vapochill's heat removal capacity.

Or a QX9770 on 1.9V. :roll:

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: taltamir
the people who own a phase cooling system most likely can afford an i7... so how does it compare to an OCed i7 under phase cooling?

a quick searched showed me its 800$ for such a phase changer, unless that one is unusually expensive as far as phase change cooling goes then this does not bode well...
http://www.frozencpu.com/produ...tml?tl=g41&id=mfA2xuwV

EDIT: Ok, found a few other phase change cooling... 800$ is the right price.

The vapochill lightspeed is pretty much the best retail phase cooler you are going to find.

All other's will have lower heat discharge capability (phase change stops working if the CPU emits more heat than the cooling capacity of the phase changer).

That said, the heat discharge capability of the vapochill you listed is such that it handles my B3 kenstfield at 4GHz an Vcc of 1.55V. So I think you'd have to push an i7 or a PII north of 5GHz before you'd challenge a vapochill's heat removal capacity.

how's the noise on your vapochill? I'm thinking of going h20 for noise purposes next time, but if phase is quiet enough I might just go that route instead.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: Idontcare
That said, the heat discharge capability of the vapochill you listed is such that it handles my B3 kenstfield at 4GHz an Vcc of 1.55V. So I think you'd have to push an i7 or a PII north of 5GHz before you'd challenge a vapochill's heat removal capacity.

Or a QX9770 on 1.9V. :roll:

That thread made baby jesus cry. But it rocked to know anyone can make simple mistakes when they get excited about teh uber hardware in dahouze.

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
how's the noise on your vapochill? I'm thinking of going h20 for noise purposes next time, but if phase is quiet enough I might just go that route instead.

I didn't think my phase rig was overly noisy. I could definitely still hear the hard-drive seeks on my raptors over the background dull noise of the compressor and fans.

You can control the noise just as you do on a HSF by dialing down the fanspeed on the radiator and compressor, at the expense of reducing cooling capacity as you expect.

That said, when I mothballed my phase rig this past spring and migrated my QX6700 to an air-cooled Tuniq120 (lapped and all that goodness) I was astounded at how quiet a modern day air-cooled PC could be.

So if your rig is quiet then I suspect you won't be pleased with the background noise of a phase rig. It never bothered me, I never noticed it when it was running. But on the few occasions I turned it off it was kind freaky how quiet my house became.

Phase is FUN. I mothballed my phase unit because I didn't need a 4GHz quad anymore at that time (had five others to do my lifting by then) and I wanted to save my compressor and phase operating lifetime between recharging for some 45nm/32nm fun with i7/Westmere and/or PII/PIII.

 

[rogue1979]

It's still too early to tell just what the Deneb will do under good air-cooling and reasonable voltage. I'll go out on a limb and predict they will do very well, 3.5 to 4.0GHz.

Seems like everyone else is just bashing any preliminary results and hoping AMD doesn't compete with Intel??????

If the Phenom 2 really ends up being mediocre or crappy we can all expect to pay more for Intel, so I think we better start thinking positively and cheering AMD on!

 

[Gikaseixas]

i think it will get good results on air, say 3.4 to 3.8 and 4.0 for a few lucky users. If clock for clock performance is on par or close to Core 2 Quads AMD might have a real chance of competing. I7 users will still have the fastest quads around IMO.

 

[Tempered81]

Yah, i7 will be fastest quad. deneb should fall somewhere between kentsfield and yorkfield performance clock for clock. It looks like agena + 5-10%. the advantage is the low power, low volts, high mhz deneb offers.

i say a 4ghz deneb should compete well against a 3.8ghz yorkfield on an average of most benchies

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Idontcare
Or a QX9770 on 1.9V. :roll:

That thread made baby jesus cry.[/quote]

:laugh:

I've tried going for suicide overclocks before, but usually with old worthless hardware or really low end stuff. I had the WR (based on XS records) for a socket AM2 Sempron 2800+, but didn't get the required proof and then the motherboard died. Chip survived a 2x overclock with around 1.75v or so on AIR. Chip cost under $50 at the time.

 

[Nemesis 1]

This whole P2 940 being a O/Cers dream . Just doesn't fit. The price AMD is charging or Debut speed. If its so cool and runs so high why the low Ghz.This just doesn't make sense. But I hope its true. Intel will have to slash pricies. Still doesn't add up Unlocked 6+ghz capable. = $275. I don't believe the price is right.