Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Originally posted by: taltamir
I am not even sure I would pay 150$ for them, what kind of moron would buy these is beyond me...
Aren't you the one who bought an Athlon 64 6400+?
Which just goes to show I am not an intel fanboy. The X2 6400 is a better CPU then this phenom (even at the same cost), and it costs half as much. Anyways I returned it. (it was defective... not stable stock speeds, and hotter then hell)
Buying the X2 6400 allowed me to do a drop in replacement without swapping the mobo. If going on a dual core processor the intel might be a better purchase. But if you already own an AM2 mobo then it costs less to buy a high end X2... HOWEVER, the problem with this CPU is that its at 2.3ghz for four cores at 150$ vs the X2 @ 3.2ghz for 2 cores at 150$ (with only a few percent per mhz improvement in the new design... NOT including the bug and its fix).... so that means MUCH poorer single threaded (or two threaded) performance than an X2 at a higher clock speed.
So if you already own an AM2 mobo with a slower CPU than your only SENSIBLE upgrade path is a 6400 for 150$. Buying this for 150$ will net you faster video encoding, but poorer performance in everything else. In games, in windows, in everything. Thats why it is not even worth 150$. Because at 150$ the X2 6400 beats it by a LOT in everything else.
If you have an AM2 board and 300$ to buy the processor upgrade you are better off buying an replacement intel mobo for 65$ and an intel cpu for 235$ instead of buying this piece for 300$.
If you don't own a modern mobo or own an intel one then hands down there is no argument that you should get a core2. For example, if you owned an intel mobo and were offered this processor for 50$... you would still need to buy a decent AM2 mobo, decent AM2 mobos run ~100$ (ASUS M2N-E is the best price and feature combo IMAO). So thats 150$... at which price you could buy a C2D for your existing mobo that will annihilate it in everything but single threaded performance.
PS. All those things weren't taking into account the bug... either you run a defective system, or you install a fix that makes the phenom significantly slower clock to clock compared to the X2.
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