Phenom 9550 Combo 210$

[Rhoxed]

got the combo for 210$ to replace my wifes aging 3800x2 system.

Some ECS mobo (780GM-A) with very little to no OC features easily pushed this chip to 2.75

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=374094

running 12hrs prime stable now, lookin to up it anymore that i can.

for the price, this processor at 2.75 is very cost effective.

 

[bryanW1995]

especially when you consider that her old system is skt 939, you probably won't be out too much after selling off the old pieces!

 

[Martimus]

I'm impressed. 250HT Link on a Phenom sounds pretty darn good to me. My X2 couldn't do that without putting more vcore than I cared to push into it. (Of course it is a Toledo stepping, but yours is still pretty darn impressive.)

 

[heyheybooboo]

Good job :thumbsup: Thanks for posting the validation
(wish more people did that)

The Egg has a combo ECS 780 / Phenom 9550 shipped for $232 - $222 AR. You just made up my mind for me (unless I get the 9750 for another $15)

 

[SlowSpyder]

I have yet to overclock my Phenom's HTT/Northbridge, I've just used the multiplier so far. But, in the HD benchmark thread I ran my Phenom at the stock HTT and the CPU at 2.9GHz, another person ran theirs with a 240HTT and at about 2.9GHz, they were about 15% faster then my Phenom. There is a lot of performance to be had by pushing the HTT to 250, that should be a very decent performing chip for you, especially for the cost.

 

[aigomorla]

bah i hit the phenom wall everyone has.

3.01ghz @ 1.36v

Cant seem to get past that for stability. :T


So just letting you know your not that far from the roof. Hopefully the new SB will fix things.

i would be really happy if i could get this phenom to 3.4ghz stable.

i have a 9850BE.

 

[Rhoxed]

My 9850BE also sticks around 3 (3080 being the highest)

This really bugs me seeing my 9550 recently purchased is almost at 2.8 and seems very stable at low volts (1.3V going on 6hrs prime right now)

This 9550 reaches 250 x 11

My 9850BE will not go past a FSB of 240

I am contemplating taking the 9550 out of the cheap ECS to see how high i can get on the MSI K9A2 Plat and see about getting a new MOBO for the 9850BE when the SB750 comes out....

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Rhoxed
My 9850BE also sticks around 3 (3080 being the highest)

This really bugs me seeing my 9550 recently purchased is almost at 2.8 and seems very stable at low volts (1.3V going on 6hrs prime right now)

This 9550 reaches 250 x 11

My 9850BE will not go past a FSB of 240

I am contemplating taking the 9550 out of the cheap ECS to see how high i can get on the MSI K9A2 Plat and see about getting a new MOBO for the 9850BE when the SB750 comes out....

RAWR!

you feel my pain huh? LOL

Yes i would really be happy with 3.4ghz on this phenom rig. Thats all im hoping and wishing for.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Phenom at 3.7GHz... water though. 1.48 volts. I would think really good air cooling may be able to handle that voltage, no? I'm at 1.4 volts with a not-too-special Arctic Cooler 64 Pro.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: SlowSpyder
Phenom at 3.7GHz... water though. 1.48 volts. I would think really good air cooling may be able to handle that voltage, no? I'm at 1.4 volts with a not-too-special Arctic Cooler 64 Pro.

no stress test, not valid.

Sorry. :T

In my eyes, windows boot safe doesnt mean squat.

 

[Markfw]

Well, I don't want to put a damper on this, but a Q6600 and any motherboard can hit 3.0 easy on stock cooling, and I have seen those for $200, in fact I got one (but it was black friday deal), they are more prevalent now.

And a Q6600@3.0 is like a Phnom@3.5

 

[SlowSpyder]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Well, I don't want to put a damper on this, but a Q6600 and any motherboard can hit 3.0 easy on stock cooling, and I have seen those for $200, in fact I got one (but it was black friday deal), they are more prevalent now.

And a Q6600@3.0 is like a Phnom@3.5

Yes, we know. The Q6600 routinely overclocks higher, got it.

 

[Rhoxed]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Well, I don't want to put a damper on this, but a Q6600 and any motherboard can hit 3.0 easy on stock cooling, and I have seen those for $200, in fact I got one (but it was black friday deal), they are more prevalent now.

And a Q6600@3.0 is like a Phnom@3.5

yes the chip is 200$ how much would you pay for ram / mobo?


finding a chip WITH a mobo and 2GB ram for 210$ being a quad and OC's to 2.8-3Ghz is pretty damn good deal, reguardless if there is an intel proc out there that beats it.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
Well, I don't want to put a damper on this, but a Q6600 and any motherboard can hit 3.0 easy on stock cooling, and I have seen those for $200, in fact I got one (but it was black friday deal), they are more prevalent now.

And a Q6600@3.0 is like a Phnom@3.5

mark shoo!

I think of it like this. Intel is set set pop voltage, done.

But AMD is set set WTF!! OMG!! DAYAM!! ARGH!!! RAWR!! UHH??? wow how the hell did i get it to work. *scratch head and ponder*

LOL

Right now im kinda bored of intel.

Originally posted by: Rhoxed

yes the chip is 200$ how much would you pay for ram / mobo?


finding a chip WITH a mobo and 2GB ram for 210$ being a quad and OC's to 2.8-3Ghz is pretty damn good deal, reguardless if there is an intel proc out there that beats it.

Well last time i checked phenom's required AM2+ boards which required DDR2. So you'd only need board + cpu. In a sense your correct, its a bit more expensive, however if you compare dollar / performance, the Q6600 would pull ahead, and factor overclocking, rape my poor Erinyes. I paid almost 250 for my 9850BE chip shipped. :T

Also the 135W phenoms require an uber voltage regulator, something that pissed off a lot of gigabyte 780g owners, so board upgrade is almost required there too. Its the fun in it i think as i told mark above. :T

For 30-50 dollars more on the board, you could grab a Q6600 G0. :T


But no lets keep intel's out of this. We all know intel's are faster, and better. Persephone prances around Erinyes with her eyes closed, however im more interested in the oc potential of his 9550

Rhoxed, are you limited on the ram side? Whats holding you back. Any chance you can go higher?

 

[Rhoxed]

Well on the 9550 i believe i am limited on the cheap MOBO (cannot change NB or HT voltage, nor change multi)

I will switch boards and see how high i can get (the chip seems to have quite a bit left in it, need the settings to be able to push it)

What else is odd, i had this SAME ram (g.skill ddr2-800 (cheaper version) on the 9850 the ram topped at 480mhz, while the SAME ram in the 9550 tops out at 500mhz+

 

[Rhoxed]

btw i just ran 13hr prime test at 2.7 1.32V (vdroop to 1.295) core never reached above 45C (on the other hand the poor ECS mobo got up to a blazing 50C)
will post SS in the morn, as im on the 9850 ATM (wife is on the 9550 loving it over the 3800x2)

Putting the 9550 into the MSI Plat mobo and flashing bios to 1.3b or whatever to get the NB multi unlocked and i will let you know how that goes (will be a day or two, working every day/night till the 21st)

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: Rhoxed
What else is odd, i had this SAME ram (g.skill ddr2-800 (cheaper version) on the 9850 the ram topped at 480mhz, while the SAME ram in the 9550 tops out at 500mhz+

That means it isn't the RAM, it's either the motherboard, or the IMC that's holding the RAM back.

 

[jgigz]

@ OP, what cooling are you using? (sorry if it was said before, I skimmed through and didn't catch it)

 

[mooseracing]

Originally posted by: aigomorla


But AMD is set set WTF!! OMG!! DAYAM!! ARGH!!! RAWR!! UHH??? wow how the hell did i get it to work. *scratch head and ponder*

You mean like the old days where under 100mhz overclock was the norm?

 

[Rhoxed]

Originally posted by: jgigz
@ OP, what cooling are you using? (sorry if it was said before, I skimmed through and didn't catch it)

for the 9850BE i am using a Zalman 9700NT in a ThermalTake armour

for the 9550 i am using a Xigmatek HDT 92MM in an older Antec case

 

[jgigz]

I just recently bought a 9550 and GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H which when I dug through the BIOS, has some decent overclocking options. Only thing is I'm running my system in a thermaltake lanbox, so I am limited in height because the PSU is right over the CPU, I bought a zalman CNPS 8000 but I didn't care to look at the specs as it isn't supported by AM2, nor can I find a renention bracket for it. When I get an appropriate cooler other than stock I'm going to see if I can get to around the 2.75 area, if not more if thermals don't hold me back (assuming it probably will though).

 

[Rhoxed]

Originally posted by: jgigz
I just recently bought a 9550 and GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H which when I dug through the BIOS, has some decent overclocking options. Only thing is I'm running my system in a thermaltake lanbox, so I am limited in height because the PSU is right over the CPU, I bought a zalman CNPS 8000 but I didn't care to look at the specs as it isn't supported by AM2, nor can I find a renention bracket for it. When I get an appropriate cooler other than stock I'm going to see if I can get to around the 2.75 area, if not more if thermals don't hold me back (assuming it probably will though).

That Gigabyte should be a ton better then my ECS for OC'ing, so if i can do it im sure you can with proper cooling ect.


As i said in previous post here is SS of prime running 12Hrs temps not above 45 for CPU and 50 for MOBO

http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ocprimekd3.jpg

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Rhoxed

Originally posted by: jgigz
I just recently bought a 9550 and GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H which when I dug through the BIOS, has some decent overclocking options. Only thing is I'm running my system in a thermaltake lanbox, so I am limited in height because the PSU is right over the CPU, I bought a zalman CNPS 8000 but I didn't care to look at the specs as it isn't supported by AM2, nor can I find a renention bracket for it. When I get an appropriate cooler other than stock I'm going to see if I can get to around the 2.75 area, if not more if thermals don't hold me back (assuming it probably will though).

That Gigabyte should be a ton better then my ECS for OC'ing, so if i can do it im sure you can with proper cooling ect.


As i said in previous post here is SS of prime running 12Hrs temps not above 45 for CPU and 50 for MOBO

http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ocprimekd3.jpg

problem with that board is that it wont support the higher TDP phenoms. So watch out. Your pretty much limited to the 9550 on that board.

Step up to the 135W phenoms and you'll soon see why everyone was boycotting gigabyte.

 

[jgigz]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Rhoxed

Originally posted by: jgigz
I just recently bought a 9550 and GIGABYTE GA-MA78GM-S2H which when I dug through the BIOS, has some decent overclocking options. Only thing is I'm running my system in a thermaltake lanbox, so I am limited in height because the PSU is right over the CPU, I bought a zalman CNPS 8000 but I didn't care to look at the specs as it isn't supported by AM2, nor can I find a renention bracket for it. When I get an appropriate cooler other than stock I'm going to see if I can get to around the 2.75 area, if not more if thermals don't hold me back (assuming it probably will though).

That Gigabyte should be a ton better then my ECS for OC'ing, so if i can do it im sure you can with proper cooling ect.


As i said in previous post here is SS of prime running 12Hrs temps not above 45 for CPU and 50 for MOBO

http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ocprimekd3.jpg

problem with that board is that it wont support the higher TDP phenoms. So watch out. Your pretty much limited to the 9550 on that board.

Step up to the 135W phenoms and you'll soon see why everyone was boycotting gigabyte.

Isn't that a problem across all the 780 boards though? Thought it had to do something with the southbridge, which is going to be fixed either with a board revision or new chipset or somethething, though I could be wrong.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: jgigz

Isn't that a problem across all the 780 boards though? Thought it had to do something with the southbridge, which is going to be fixed either with a board revision or new chipset or somethething, though I could be wrong.

well, im not going to be one of the first to grab the new south bridge revision until i see hardcore evidence.

I love AMD, i just dont love Hector. I think i have a better chance of getting a straight answer from pinochio then Hector.

At least i can tell when pinochio lies.