Phd or Dr. ????

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No Lifer
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Originally posted by: NoReMoRsE
M.D. is a medical doctor; it's considered an undergrad degree.

Ph.D. is a doctor of philosophy; it's consered a graduate degree.
Did I really just read that? At least in north america (wasn't the case in Britain, for instance, and maybe still isn't), you need an undergrad for medicine, and it's a graduate degree.

That link from UoT is that for a prequel to medicine or the actual degree? If the latter, I have a nutsack that UoT can lick on.

 

Martin

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Lifer
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best thread today =D

i never knew what a JD was until this semester. One of my professors is a JD and i had no idea wtf that is.
 

mdbound

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Originally posted by: NoReMoRsE
Medicine is considered an undergraduate degree at the University of Toronto http://www.library.utoronto.ca/medicine/educational_programs/undergrad.html

Actually, in the typical sense of the term, medicine is NOT an "undergraduate" degree. It is a professional degree as mentioned a number of times above. However, there is a term, "Graduate Medical Education" which refers to Residency and Fellowships (where people with MD's become specialists and subspecialists). Therefore, based on this term, you could consider, "Undergraduate Medical Education" as medical school (the time where you get your MD). People don't usually use the latter term, but hey, they do things a bit differently in Canada.

Also, as a corrallary, in the British system, you could get an MBBS, which is "Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery", and have gotten your "MBBS" right after highschool (making it undergraduate), and still be called, "doctor."

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Whisper

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Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
you can get a doctorate (i.e. Pharmacy) without getting a PhD. IIRC PhD basically means you've done and submitted research and then recieved your PhD from a board of other PhD after they give you a review/oral exam.

Very true. For those people that want to practice clinical psychology but have no love of research, you can now pursue a PsyD. It's the same amount of schooling, just with less research and more emphasis on therapy. It's still considered a "Ph.D. Lite" for the time being by many people in academia, though.