Pharmacists refuse to fill birth control prescriptions

[Slap]

Interesting

 

[loup garou]

Disgusting.

 

[43st]

Wow just wow.. The Republicans are really bursting out of the gate with this faux mandate.

 

[Bumrush99]

This country is sinking faster than the Titanic. On one hand these stupid motherf*ckers think abortion doctors should be killed, on the other hand they refuse to believe in contraception. What a bunch of blind stupid sheep!!!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Thera
Wow just wow.. The Republicans are really bursting out of the gate with this faux mandate.

Cool, let those Nut Jobs expose themselves for the Whackos they really are! Once Mainstream America see they whom allied themselves with they may have a change of heart in 2006 or 2008

 

[conjur]

Mississippi enacted a sweeping statute that went into effect in July that allows health care providers, including pharmacists, to not participate in procedures that go against their conscience. South Dakota and Arkansas already had laws that protect a pharmacist's right to refuse to dispense medicines. Ten other states considered similar bills this year.

WTF?

Legislating against peoples' health???

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
On one hand these stupid motherf*ckers think abortion doctors should be killed...

Capital punishment also encourages the culture of life. You just have to worship the government to have your culture of life.

 

[b0mbrman]

I agree that contraceptives are not morally wrong and that pharmacists should sell them.

However, as private businessmen (and women), they have the right to sell and not sell what they want. If the locals decide they no longer want to shop there, then that's their right...

 

[Train]

umm, this is a bad thing? no one is being FORCED to do anything. This only lets pharmacists who dont believe in something to not participate, sounds like freedom to me.

Nice job everybody in spinning this into another "OMFG Fundie Nut jobs are taking over the world" thread

 

[Tarpon6]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: Train
umm, this is a bad thing? no one is being FORCED to do anything. This only lets pharmacists who dont believe in something to not participate, sounds like freedom to me.

Nice job everybody in spinning this into another "OMFG Fundie Nut jobs are taking over the world" thread

 

[earthman]

Heh Heh, It's cheaper to legislate against health rather than for it. Unless you count the $10 billion for tobacco farmers.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: Train
umm, this is a bad thing? no one is being FORCED to do anything. This only lets pharmacists who dont believe in something to not participate, sounds like freedom to me.

Nice job everybody in spinning this into another "OMFG Fundie Nut jobs are taking over the world" thread

Did you read the article?? Would you condone the so called "pharmacist" that REFUSED to transfer the prescription over to a different pharmacy? Do you see anything wrong with that???

 

[loup garou]

The American Pharmacists Association, with 50,000 members, has a policy that says druggists can refuse to fill prescriptions if they object on moral grounds, but they must make arrangements so a patient can still get the pills. Yet some pharmacists have refused to hand the prescription to another druggist to fill.

To clarify, this is what pisses me off.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I'm on the fence with this, Pharmacists are very intelligent people, IIRC, they have 7 years of schooling to just be a pharmacist, and many of the Pharmacists I know have earned advanced degrees.

As long as they are not obstructionist in allowing the patient to obtain the prescription that a physician has written, I think they should be allowed to refuse on moral grounds.

For instance, every hospital I know has a policy in place to prevent forcing a nurse or health care worker from being the one to pull the plug on a brain dead patient's machine if they object to the practice.

Also, there's more than a bit of a power struggle between Physicians & Pharmacists, and trust me, you want an assertive Pharmacist to deal with your physician.

The examples cited where the Pharmacist prohibited a patient from getting a prescription is criminal & actionable by the Board of Pharmacy that regulates that particular state, and it opens up the Pharmacist & employer to civil suits.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: Train
umm, this is a bad thing? no one is being FORCED to do anything. This only lets pharmacists who dont believe in something to not participate, sounds like freedom to me.

Nice job everybody in spinning this into another "OMFG Fundie Nut jobs are taking over the world" thread

Yeah, freedom to not provide health care when you don't believe in it. Kinda like those nuts who believe Jesus can heal their sick child so they refuse to go to a doctor. That's some good freedom you got fundie freak.

 

[Czar]

if the pharmacy was so against the pills, then did it have them on stock or not?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: Train
umm, this is a bad thing? no one is being FORCED to do anything. This only lets pharmacists who dont believe in something to not participate, sounds like freedom to me.

Nice job everybody in spinning this into another "OMFG Fundie Nut jobs are taking over the world" thread

Yeah, freedom to not provide health care when you don't believe in it. Kinda like those nuts who believe Jesus can heal their sick child so they refuse to go to a doctor. That's some good freedom you got fundie freak.

ah, the party of inclusion and understanding

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: werk

The American Pharmacists Association, with 50,000 members, has a policy that says druggists can refuse to fill prescriptions if they object on moral grounds, but they must make arrangements so a patient can still get the pills. Yet some pharmacists have refused to hand the prescription to another druggist to fill.

To clarify, this is what pisses me off.

Exactly. And not everyone taking the pill is taking it for birth control but, rather, for physical necessity to alleviate severe pain from cramps and other symptoms.

 

[Amused]

Not that I agree with the pro-lifers, but...

In a supposedly "free country" a private business should not be forced to sell anything it doesn't want to sell.

I mean, what if one of you had a "progressive" book store, and the state stepped in forcing you to sell rightwing political and religious books?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Amused
Not that I agree with the pro-lifers, but...

In a supposedly "free country" a private business should not be forced to sell anything it doesn't want to sell.

I mean, what if one of you had a "progressive" book store, and the state stepped in forcing you to sell rightwing political and religious books?

Did you read the article? Doesn't seem like it.

 

[nageov3t]

Mississippi enacted a sweeping statute that went into effect in July that allows health care providers, including pharmacists, to not participate in procedures that go against their conscience.

doctors should not be able to refuse treatment in any circumstances.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Amused
Not that I agree with the pro-lifers, but...

In a supposedly "free country" a private business should not be forced to sell anything it doesn't want to sell.

I mean, what if one of you had a "progressive" book store, and the state stepped in forcing you to sell rightwing political and religious books?

How about this?

The American Pharmacists Association, with 50,000 members, has a policy that says druggists can refuse to fill prescriptions if they object on moral grounds, but they must make arrangements so a patient can still get the pills. Yet some pharmacists have refused to hand the prescription to another druggist to fill.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'm on the fence with this, Pharmacists are very intelligent people, IIRC, they have 7 years of schooling to just be a pharmacist, and many of the Pharmacists I know have earned advanced degrees.

As long as they are not obstructionist in allowing the patient to obtain the prescription that a physician has written, I think they should be allowed to refuse on moral grounds.

For instance, every hospital I know has a policy in place to prevent forcing a nurse or health care worker from being the one to pull the plug on a brain dead patient's machine if they object to the practice.

Also, there's more than a bit of a power struggle between Physicians & Pharmacists, and trust me, you want an assertive Pharmacist to deal with your physician.

The examples cited where the Pharmacist prohibited a patient from getting a prescription is criminal & actionable by the Board of Pharmacy that regulates that particular state, and it opens up the Pharmacist & employer to civil suits.

I agree with Pliable on this one as well. They should put more focus on slamming the pharmacists who do not transfer the script and let those who do not wish to fill have their way out....if someone truly believes that the pill or whatever is taking life then they should not be forced to go against that belief.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Amused
Not that I agree with the pro-lifers, but...

In a supposedly "free country" a private business should not be forced to sell anything it doesn't want to sell.

I mean, what if one of you had a "progressive" book store, and the state stepped in forcing you to sell rightwing political and religious books?

Did you read the article? Doesn't seem like it.

What am I missing?

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Amused
Not that I agree with the pro-lifers, but...

In a supposedly "free country" a private business should not be forced to sell anything it doesn't want to sell.

I mean, what if one of you had a "progressive" book store, and the state stepped in forcing you to sell rightwing political and religious books?

How about this?

The American Pharmacists Association, with 50,000 members, has a policy that says druggists can refuse to fill prescriptions if they object on moral grounds, but they must make arrangements so a patient can still get the pills. Yet some pharmacists have refused to hand the prescription to another druggist to fill.

Why not just go to another store? Take your prescrption back from the ignorant fscker and go somewhere else.