Petition To Make Metal Detectors Mandatory in our Schools.

justin4pack

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Figured I should Make a thread dedicated to this. I am not going to go all out, its a simple request. I just started a petition on the White House petitions site, We the
People. Will you sign it? http://wh.gov/lvvof

It could be your kids next. I am not asking for a donation, Just a simple signature.
 
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Figured I should Make a thread dedicated to this. I am not going to go all out, its a simple request. I just started a petition on the White House petitions site, We the
People. Will you sign it? http://wh.gov/lvvof

It could be your kids next. I am not asking for a donation, Just a simple signature.

And you think that metal detectors are the answer to something?

"Modzeleski noted that the high school in Red Lake, Minn., where seven were killed by a student last year, had a metal detector and a security guard. The gunman, Jeffrey Weise, shot and killed the guard, then walked down the hall shooting students and a teacher.

In Pearl, Miss., shooter Luke Woodham was asked by Secret Service investigators what he would have done in 1997 if he’d encountered a metal detector. “He would have walked right through it,” Modzeleski recalled."


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/15111439/...urts/t/does-every-school-need-metal-detector/


"A middle school where a 14-year-old boy was shot and wounded in the neck by a fellow student had metal detectors, and school officials were investigating how the shooter made it past them."

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2013/02/01/metal-detectors-at-georgia-school-where-student-shot/
 

justin4pack

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You think this is 100% fool proof? No but it will help more then all the arguments in the world.
 

PottedMeat

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you can get ceramic blades pretty much anywhere.

plus i don't want to pay for it. soon they'll want some of those TSA backscatter things in every school.


better off paying for a school psychologist... we had one in high school and jr high
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Just skip the inevitable and go right for Hall Monitors with full auto SMGs and Bars on doors/windows.

If Metal Detectors at Schools seems like a necessity, it's seriously time to do some real soul searching.
 

Jhhnn

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Cavity searches & urinalysis, too. Can't be too careful when we're thinking of the children, can we?
 

master_shake_

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the last news articles i have seen about "weapons" in schools

it was a pop tart
a knife locked in a car in a parking lot
a kid with a pen cap bent
and a kid holding his finger like a gun...

tell me again about how this metal detector crap is going to stop that?
 

Greenman

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I'd rather sign a petition requiring parents to actually be parents, and I'm talking old school parents, the kind that taught their kids proper manners, respect for others and their property, honesty, and a work ethic. Do that, and almost all of the problems in public schools would vanish. We would still have the unbelievable stupidity of the school administration to deal with, but thats a different discussion.
 

Fenixgoon

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you can get ceramic blades pretty much anywhere.

plus i don't want to pay for it. soon they'll want some of those TSA backscatter things in every school.


better off paying for a school psychologist... we had one in high school and jr high

ceramic knives have a piece of metal in the hilt so that they don't pass through metal detectors.

I'd rather sign a petition requiring parents to actually be parents, and I'm talking old school parents, the kind that taught their kids proper manners, respect for others and their property, honesty, and a work ethic. Do that, and almost all of the problems in public schools would vanish. We would still have the unbelievable stupidity of the school administration to deal with, but thats a different discussion.

this x1000.

you can't legislate away issues. but of course, legislators feel they "must pass a law so this doesn't happen again"

which is utter horseshit, because no amount of laws can stop someone. if you really want to commit a crime, it's incredibly easy.
 

PokerGuy

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No way am I going to sign any petition for something stupid. It doesn't solve anything and makes the schools even more like prisons than they already are.

Absolutely not.
 

Newell Steamer

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It simple, train the underpaid teachers to shoot guns. I am sure they will be perfectly OK with gunning down the very children they set out in life to teach.
 

fleshconsumed

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No. I do not have children, but even if I did my answer would still be no.

The obvious reasons have already been stated - waste of tax money and it would hardly stop anybody determined enough. My biggest reason for saying no however, is because I believe it sends wrong message to the kids. For one, it is creating feelings of distrust to fellow schoolmates, it is creating an atmosphere of unreasonable fear (face it, mass murders, as tragic as they are, are very very uncommon, more people die falling from the roof I bet), and it is also teaching kids that it is acceptable to give up privacy for some false sense of security. No. Just no.
 

Exterous

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It could be your kids next. I am not asking for a donation, Just a simple signature.

Despite your attempted emotional argument - nope. Not a chance. Some of us understand statistics.

If you care so much about the safety of kids where is your campaign against pools or stairs? A child is much more likely to die from those than from an incident at school.

So where is your petition against two+ story buildings? Huh?
 

justin4pack

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Its easy to argue and say "you know" how to fix it. That you know what should be done. And I bet none of you are acting to actually help anyone.
 

nageov3t

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Its easy to argue and say "you know" how to fix it. That you know what should be done. And I bet none of you are acting to actually help anyone.

what's to fix or help?

youth violence rates are decreasing and have been for decades, clearly whatever we're doing already is working.
 

piasabird

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Kids die on skateboards and bicycles and motorcycles all the time. Have we outlawed them? The big problem with guns at school is that school administrators and judges are not tough enough. The first crime with a gun should get the death sentence automatically. Society would have a fit if judges and laws were tougher.

Maybe if a person takes a gun to school we should wipe out his entire family to the 3rd generation.