PETA to do something productive?

[Bateluer]

http://www.wkbw.com/news/local/82610317.html

I still don't like PETA, and most of their claims in the below letter are dubious at best, but the bridge is apparently a matter of public safety. I saw let them repair the bridge and have it renamed. I seriously doubt anyone is going to change their diet based on a plaque riveted to a bridge.

BUFFALO, NY (WKBW) -- PETA officials have made a 'meaty' offer to the NYSDOT.

PETA has offered to help pay for the repairs needed to improve the safety of the span if the name of the bridge is changed to "Peace on Your Plate Bridge".

This offer follows reports saying that the Peace Bridge has such a low safety rating that it could be forced to close.

In the letter, PETA makes the claim that world peace could be more readily attained if everyone adopted a non-violent vegan diet.

"Changing the bridge's name to the 'Peace on Your Plate Bridge' is a win-win situation," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "The name change would help keep this vital link in Western New York's economy up and running, and people crossing the bridge would be reminded that we really can have world peace -- starting with one meal at a time."

You can read PETA's full letter to NYSDOT acting commissioner Stanley Gee below, and find out more information on PETA by visiting their website here.

Dear Mr. Gee,

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) is the world's largest animal rights organization, with more than 2 million members and supporters, including tens of thousands across New York. In light of the state comptroller's worrying new report that the Buffalo Peace Bridge's safety rating is dangerously low, I'm writing to offer to contribute funds for repairs in exchange for the right to rename the bridge "Peace on Your Plate Bridge." We would also like to offer to host a celebration on the bridge when the repairs are complete, at which we would serve delicious vegan hors d'oeuvres such as Buffalo wing–style "chicken" nuggets and distribute free copies of PETA's "Vegetarian Starter Kit."

The bridge's new name would remind Buffalo residents that every time we sit down to eat, we make a choice: We can add to the level of violence and suffering in the world by consuming meat, eggs, and dairy products, or we can show compassion by enjoying a vegan meal. In today's meat industry, chickens and turkeys have their throats cut while still conscious, piglets have their tails and testicles cut off without painkillers, and fish are suffocated or cut open while still alive on the decks of fishing boats.

In addition to stopping animals' suffering, encouraging Buffalo residents to go vegan could also help to lighten the bridge's load. Vegans weigh, on average, 10 to 20 pounds less than their meat-, egg-, and dairy-eating counterparts. Vegans are also far more likely to be in better overall health, and according to the American Dietetic Association, they are less likely to develop cancer, heart disease, and diabetes than meat-eaters are.

Taking us up on our offer would not only keep traffic flowing across the bridge but also help residents to bridge the mental gap between what we choose to put on our plates and the consequences of those choices for animals. By crossing over to a vegan diet, Buffalo residents can protect both animals and their health. Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,

Tracy Reiman
Executive Vice President

 

[Moonbeam]

There is no doubt that people and the planet would be better off if we gave up eating meat.

For those of us who like meat, however, that won't be so easy. People like eating what they have become accustomed to eating and they don't like change. But more and more young people will doubtless see the wisdom and morality of this and change in the future.

Naturally, those who make a living on meat as food will do whatever they can to prevent a change for the better.

Stupid people whose imbecilic egos get tied up with eating meat will doubtless react to the PETA thingi as the imbeciles they are. There is no end to the stupidity of folk who hate themselves for what they are and have no idea of that fact.

"NOBODY TELLS ME I CAN'T EAT MEAT"

Nobody can tell an imbecile anything.

 

[Robor]

The PETA people really need to relax. I'm all for their fight against fur and animal abuse but their methods are just terrible. Why would I donate to PETA when I can choose the ASPCA or Humane Society?

 

[StageLeft]

There is no doubt that people and the planet would be better off if we gave up eating meat.

For those of us who like meat, however, that won't be so easy. People like eating what they have become accustomed to eating and they don't like change. But more and more young people will doubtless see the wisdom and morality of this and change in the future.

Naturally, those who make a living on meat as food will do whatever they can to prevent a change for the better.

Stupid people whose imbecilic egos get tied up with eating meat will doubtless react to the PETA thingi as the imbeciles they are. There is no end to the stupidity of folk who hate themselves for what they are and have no idea of that fact.

"NOBODY TELLS ME I CAN'T EAT MEAT"

Nobody can tell an imbecile anything.

Please give up your meat, then, and leave more for me.

This sounds ok. But it also sounds like bullsh*t. Do we really want the US turned into a perma-ad as corporations decide that fixing a road here or there lets them name the road to whatever? What if a Chinese company comes in and suddenly all the streets, that it fixed up, are named "CHOP-SU CHICKEN GOOD YOU Ave." and "FISH FOR ALL MEAL, EAT CHOP-SU!!! Rd"?

 

[Bateluer]

Please give up your meat, then, and leave more for me.

This sounds ok. But it also sounds like bullsh*t. Do we really want the US turned into a perma-ad as corporations decide that fixing a road here or there lets them name the road to whatever? What if a Chinese company comes in and suddenly all the streets, that it fixed up, are named "CHOP-SU CHICKEN GOOD YOU Ave." and "FISH FOR ALL MEAL, EAT CHOP-SU!!! Rd"?

We already do, to an extent. Many major building projects have corporate sponsors attached to them, often with high profile names. Here in Phoenix, University of Phoenix Stadium, US Airways Convention Center, Chase Field, etc. Thus far, they've all been in good taste though, the city of Glendale shot down Pink Taco's bid to name the UoP Stadium.

I don't agree with Moonbeam, and I'll leave it at that.

 

[StageLeft]

We already do, to an extent. Many major building projects have corporate sponsors attached to them, often with high profile names. Here in Phoenix, University of Phoenix Stadium, US Airways Convention Center, Chase Field, etc. Thus far, they've all been in good taste though, the city of Glendale shot down Pink Taco's bid to name the UoP Stadium.

I don't agree with Moonbeam, and I'll leave it at that.

True. I envision a future in which advertisements and marketing inundate our lives to a degree that makes our current predicament seem extremely tame.

 

[BigDH01]

Please give up your meat, then, and leave more for me.

This sounds ok. But it also sounds like bullsh*t. Do we really want the US turned into a perma-ad as corporations decide that fixing a road here or there lets them name the road to whatever? What if a Chinese company comes in and suddenly all the streets, that it fixed up, are named "CHOP-SU CHICKEN GOOD YOU Ave." and "FISH FOR ALL MEAL, EAT CHOP-SU!!! Rd"?

So I'm assuming you didn't watch the Papajohns.com bowl or the The Meineke Car Care Bowl .

I do hate the advertisements though. Even browsing Dailytech, I can't mouse over the text without having another ad pop up (without 3rd party software, that is). Extremely annoying.

 

[JTsyo]

In the letter, PETA makes the claim that world peace could be more readily attained if everyone adopted a non-violent vegan diet.

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[CPA]

There is no doubt that people and the planet would be better off if we gave up eating meat.

For those of us who like meat, however, that won't be so easy. People like eating what they have become accustomed to eating and they don't like change. But more and more young people will doubtless see the wisdom and morality of this and change in the future.

Naturally, those who make a living on meat as food will do whatever they can to prevent a change for the better.

Stupid people whose imbecilic egos get tied up with eating meat will doubtless react to the PETA thingi as the imbeciles they are. There is no end to the stupidity of folk who hate themselves for what they are and have no idea of that fact.

"NOBODY TELLS ME I CAN'T EAT MEAT"

Nobody can tell an imbecile anything.

And when all of the cows, chickens, pigs, deer, etc. grow to ungodly numbers, what then?

 

[PokerGuy]

Just another instance of PETA showing their stupidity. Tell them to FOAD. Nothing wrong with protecting animals from abuse, but pushing this idiotic vegan/vegetarian/whatever stuff on everyone is annoying.

Guess what: humans are omnivores. In the west, we eat too much of it, but meat is supposed to be a part of our diets. That's how humans evolved.

 

[Slick5150]

Just another instance of PETA showing their stupidity. Tell them to FOAD. Nothing wrong with protecting animals from abuse, but pushing this idiotic vegan/vegetarian/whatever stuff on everyone is annoying.

Guess what: humans are omnivores. In the west, we eat too much of it, but meat is supposed to be a part of our diets. That's how humans evolved.

Well, the idea is that there's a difference between hunting and killing your own food, and factory farms that treat animals inhumanely from birth to death. I actually agree with that, and purchase beef & chicken from a local farmers market.

Don't get me wrong, I don't give money to PETA and think they shoot themselves in the foot far too often with some of the silly stunts they pull, but the message itself isn't necessarily wrong. I choose to give to the ASPCA instead and certainly support their efforts.

 

[Throckmorton]

You know what's unbelievable? How many people are too stupid to understand that eating meat uses many more resources than eating plants. Something must be wrong with our school system.

Everyone does seem to realize that factory farming is cruel though. By the way, why all the hate for Michael Vick when most of us cause much more cruelty to animals by eating meat? The turkey bacon I had for breakfast was probably made of thousands of turkeys, all of which lived terrible lives, so I have no right to criticize Michael Vick.

 

[Hacp]

Sure, let them pay for our bridge. As for Peta's message, its like Sheryl Crow telling me to use one square. NO, GTFO.

 

[Hacp]

You know what's unbelievable? How many people are too stupid to understand that eating meat uses many more resources than eating plants. Something must be wrong with our school system.

Everyone does seem to realize that factory farming is cruel though. By the way, why all the hate for Michael Vick when most of us cause much more cruelty to animals by eating meat?

And organic farming uses more resources than regular farming. LOL. Seroiusly, I like meat and I want to eat meat. If you don't like your meat, don't buy it. Makes it cheaper for me.

 

[Throckmorton]

And organic farming uses more resources than regular farming. LOL. Seroiusly, I like meat and I want to eat meat. If you don't like your meat, don't buy it. Makes it cheaper for me.

I like meat too but I try not to eat too much, and go with poultry over beef.

Eventually we'll all have to be vegetarians, as world population continues to increase.

 

[Moonbeam]

I mentioned, did I not, that there would be folk defending the eating of meat on idiotic egotistical grounds, because they hate themselves and can't take any criticism.

You would be healthier and live longer if you didn't eat meat.

When folk hear this, they immediately feel threatened and judged, grab it and shove it up their ass. Then they attack me with the intention to try to turn the tables they turned on themselves, by making me feel wrong.

That won't work because I don't feel guilty about the fact that I am right.

Let's take a look at one of these silly claims:

"............meat is supposed to be a part of our diets. That's how humans evolved."

How humans evolved has nothing, in this case, to do with what we should or should not eat. What we evolved with are certain nutritional needs, vitamins minerals, amino acids. etc. It makes not the slightest difference to the digestive system how these are supplied. Any food that supplies the full compliment of human nutritional demands is adequate for survival. It also makes not the slightest difference to evolution if you live to be 60 or 100 because we were, evolutionary speaking, dead long before that age.

So, only an egotistical butt head, defending his guilty feelings on eating meat and destroying the planet in the process, comes up with a defense like evolution, no?

Hehehe, Maybe eating meat makes people incapable of thinking.
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And, oh my, what are we going to do with all the pigs and cows? What a killer question that is.

Some vegetarian with a brain wanna try that one? Ahahahahaha


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[Moonbeam]

We already do, to an extent. Many major building projects have corporate sponsors attached to them, often with high profile names. Here in Phoenix, University of Phoenix Stadium, US Airways Convention Center, Chase Field, etc. Thus far, they've all been in good taste though, the city of Glendale shot down Pink Taco's bid to name the UoP Stadium.

I don't agree with Moonbeam, and I'll leave it at that.

What the hell are you talking about. Everything I said was true. Where exactly did you go off the rails?

 

[cubeless]

if they weren't factory bred there'd be a whole lot less critters, probably not too many to start some natural predator cycle with... we need to have one big 'going away' bar-b-que and then shut down the factory farms...

but would it be ok to eat euthanized critters who had had happy lives of grazing?

 

[CrackRabbit]

Sure, let them pay for our bridge. As for Peta's message, its like Sheryl Crow telling me to use one square. NO, GTFO.

I actually agree with you. Let them pay for the repairs and put up a sign on the bridge that people will promptly ignore.
The idea is certainly a lot less hair brained than most of their schemes.

 

[Moonbeam]

Please give up your meat, then, and leave more for me.

This sounds ok. But it also sounds like bullsh*t. Do we really want the US turned into a perma-ad as corporations decide that fixing a road here or there lets them name the road to whatever? What if a Chinese company comes in and suddenly all the streets, that it fixed up, are named "CHOP-SU CHICKEN GOOD YOU Ave." and "FISH FOR ALL MEAL, EAT CHOP-SU!!! Rd"?

How about "YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE IF YOU EAT MEAT BRIDGE"

 

[bfdd]

You know what's unbelievable? How many people are too stupid to understand that eating meat uses many more resources than eating plants. Something must be wrong with our school system.

Everyone does seem to realize that factory farming is cruel though. By the way, why all the hate for Michael Vick when most of us cause much more cruelty to animals by eating meat? The turkey bacon I had for breakfast was probably made of thousands of turkeys, all of which lived terrible lives, so I have no right to criticize Michael Vick.

Did you know that farm raised turkeys have to have a roof over their head? Do you know why? Because turkeys are so stupid that when it rains they will look up to see what the hell it is and when turkeys look up they can't close their mouths, so they drown.

You guys can make the argument all you want that we don't HAVE to eat meat, that's cool I'll still do it. I enjoy it and I don't really care to be honest if an animal is put down for it. The reason I'm against factory farming isn't because the animals are treated poorly, it's because it doesn't produce a high quality healthy meat. It produces junk.

Moon, it's not 100% true that you'd live a healthier longer life without meat. Also, meat really isn't that bad it's the over consumption and the poor quality meats people eat that are bad. Vegetarianism and Veganism are mostly life styles of the first world. Look around the world the only place it's really practiced outside the first world is India and that has to do with religion, not because it's ihealthy or inhumane to kill animals.

 

[Moonbeam]

Did you know that farm raised turkeys have to have a roof over their head? Do you know why? Because turkeys are so stupid that when it rains they will look up to see what the hell it is and when turkeys look up they can't close their mouths, so they drown.

You guys can make the argument all you want that we don't HAVE to eat meat, that's cool I'll still do it. I enjoy it and I don't really care to be honest if an animal is put down for it. The reason I'm against factory farming isn't because the animals are treated poorly, it's because it doesn't produce a high quality healthy meat. It produces junk.

How is farm raised meat junk? Is it the hormones, the pesticides, the antibiotics the cloning? What about the meat do you object to. Besides such potential negatives, as long as it supplies the nutrition needed for human beings, it isn't otherwise different from an organic bean.

 

[PokerGuy]

You would be healthier and live longer if you didn't eat meat.

Bullsh*t. You are healthier and live longer if you eat a balanced diet that includes all the food groups, including meat. OVEReating meat is unhealthy, just like not eating meat probably causes you not to get certain nutrients.

When folk hear this, they immediately feel threatened and judged

Of course people feel threatened and judged, PETA and their ilk want to take your right to determine your own diet away from you, to force you into their idiotic veganism or whatever other form of mental deficiency they subscribe to.

grab it and shove it up their ass. Then they attack me with the intention to try to turn the tables they turned on themselves, by making me feel wrong.

How humans evolved has nothing, in this case, to do with what we should or should not eat. What we evolved with are certain nutritional needs, vitamins minerals, amino acids. etc. It makes not the slightest difference to the digestive system how these are supplied.

Wrong again. It does make a difference how it is supplied because different delivery mechanisms have pros and cons, and the body is designed to use / process certain things more efficiently than others. Thinking that all sources are the same just because the end result is stupid.

Any food that supplies the full compliment of human nutritional demands is adequate for survival.

Adequate is not necessarily optimal.... and that's not even factoring in personal taste preferences.

Typical liberal idiots, PETA: "we don't want to eat meat, so you should be forced to agree with our idiocy!"

 

[StageLeft]

How about "YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE IF YOU EAT MEAT BRIDGE"

Sure. But you probably eat meat; I think you're just posting in this thread for fun more than anything.

Did you know that farm raised turkeys have to have a roof over their head? Do you know why? Because turkeys are so stupid that when it rains they will look up to see what the hell it is and when turkeys look up they can't close their mouths, so they drown.

When I read something on the net that sounds like bullsh*t I google it and google tells me "You're right, Skoorb, it was." http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/turkey.asp

Regarding health of meat I have no idea if the "ideal" diet includes it or not. My guess is that the average vegetarian has an overall healthier diet than omnivores, though. I don't eat meat for the health but because it makes me feel alive to eat another animal's flesh. Even if I am too weak a person to hunt/kill it myself, I pay someone else to.

 

[Slick5150]

And organic farming uses more resources than regular farming. LOL. Seroiusly, I like meat and I want to eat meat. If you don't like your meat, don't buy it. Makes it cheaper for me.

you fail at basic economics.