PETA to Al Gore - meat eaters cannot be environmentalists

imported_Shivetya

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· The effect that our meat addiction is having on the climate is truly staggering. In fact, in its recent report ?Livestock?s Long Shadow?Environmental Issues and Options,? the United Nations determined that raising animals for food generates more greenhouse gases than all the cars and trucks in the world combined.


currently linked here http://drudgereport.com/flash2.htm


They probably are right. It all comes down to , is man kind the real cause or not. If so, what actions are acceptable and which are not?











cut/paste of whole article as Drudge flashes don't last long

PETA TO AL GORE: YOU CAN?T BE A MEAT-EATING ENVIRONMENTALIST
Tue Mar 06 2007 17:08:05 ET

The Most ?Inconvenient Truth?: According to U.N., Animals Raised for Food Generate More Greenhouse Gases Than All Cars and Trucks Combined

Norfolk, Va. ? This morning, PETA sent a letter to former vice president Al Gore explaining to him that the best way to fight global warming is to go vegetarian and offering to cook him faux ?fried chicken? as an introduction to meat-free meals. In its letter, PETA points out that Gore?s film, An Inconvenient Truth?which starkly outlines the potentially catastrophic effects of global warming and just won the Academy Award for ?Best Documentary??has failed to address the fact that the meat industry is the largest contributor to greenhouse-gas emissions.

In the letter, PETA points out the following:

· The effect that our meat addiction is having on the climate is truly staggering. In fact, in its recent report ?Livestock?s Long Shadow?Environmental Issues and Options,? the United Nations determined that raising animals for food generates more greenhouse gases than all the cars and trucks in the world combined.

· Researchers at the University of Chicago have determined that switching to a vegan diet is more effective in countering global warming than switching from a standard American car to a Toyota Prius.

PETA also reminds Gore that his critics love to question whether he practices what he preaches and suggests that by going vegetarian, he could cut down on his contribution to global warming and silence his critics at the same time.

?The single best thing that any of us can do to for our health, for animals, and for the environment is to go vegetarian,? says PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk. ?The best and easiest way for Mr. Gore to show his critics that he?s truly committed to fighting global warming is to kick his meat habit immediately.?

 

DerekP

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I hope PETA gets the message some day. Humans are omnivores for a reason. It may seem excessively cruel, and I definitely don't agree with the factory-farming way it's done today, but we eat animals. And all of the rewording of our relationship with animals into an addiction and habit and whatnot isn't going to change that. Their constant extreme bleating is doing more to drive away the moderate center of society than draw anyone to them, and just giving everyone else loony treehuggers to point to and ridicule.
 

theeedude

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Animals are carbon neutral. All of their CO2 comes from grass which then recaptures that CO2 as it grows. Next strawman arguement, please.
 

piasabird

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Hmm . . .
McDonalds is testing a new larger Hamburger.

Maybe ADM can modify the genetic structure of Corn to grow barbecued pork steaks.
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Animals are carbon neutral. All of their CO2 comes from grass which then recaptures that CO2 as it grows. Next strawman arguement, please.

and is released upon consumption.

Grass captures CO2, but its released back into the system at consumption. Plus you have to add in all the CO2 produced during processing and delivery of animal products. It all adds up.
 

sdifox

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Will cook up a big ass steak, document my enjoyment of the steak on MiniDV, dump it on youtube then email PETA the link to the video.
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: senseamp
Animals are carbon neutral. All of their CO2 comes from grass which then recaptures that CO2 as it grows. Next strawman arguement, please.

and is released upon consumption.

Grass captures CO2, but its released back into the system at consumption. Plus you have to add in all the CO2 produced during processing and delivery of animal products. It all adds up.

Huh? It's a full circle. All the CO2 released comes from the grass, and the same amount of grass grows at the pasture the next year. It's a full cycle. Even if CO2 passes from grass to cow to human, ultimately it completely recaptured. Processing and delivery do use fossil fuels, but by no means would that portion be the largest contributer to green house gas emissions in the world, and by no means unique to meat. Farming, processing and delivery of vegetables also uses fossil fuels.
 

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Will cook up a big ass steak, document my enjoyment of the steak on MiniDV, dump it on youtube then email PETA the link to the video.

Big ass steak, dump and youtube in the same sentence.


**shudders**
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: senseamp
Animals are carbon neutral. All of their CO2 comes from grass which then recaptures that CO2 as it grows. Next strawman arguement, please.

and is released upon consumption.

Grass captures CO2, but its released back into the system at consumption. Plus you have to add in all the CO2 produced during processing and delivery of animal products. It all adds up.

Huh? It's a full circle. All the CO2 released comes from the grass, and the same amount of grass grows at the pasture the next year. It's a full cycle. Even if CO2 passes from grass to cow to human, ultimately it completely recaptured. Processing and delivery do use fossil fuels, but by no means would that portion be the largest contributer to green house gas emissions in the world, and by no means unique to meat. Farming, processing and delivery of vegetables also uses fossil fuels.


I seem to remember reading an article about cattle producing an ungodly amount of ammonia. Ammonia contributes to acid rain and global warming doesn't it?

This is an honest question, not flame bait. Any ideas?
 

Genx87

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Heh the UN finds raising animals contributes more GH gas than all the cars we drive?
So why arent we going after the farms of the world?
 

Jeff7

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Hey PETA! What are you using to grow vegetables? That's right, fossil-fuel-burning farm equipment! Sure it takes fewer resources to grow a purely plant-based diet, but you're still contributing! In fact, PETA shouldn't even have a website. Those computer components are produced using processes that employ a variety of hazardous chemicals.

PETA: A fine example of why extremism is a bad thing.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: nutxo
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: senseamp
Animals are carbon neutral. All of their CO2 comes from grass which then recaptures that CO2 as it grows. Next strawman arguement, please.

and is released upon consumption.

Grass captures CO2, but its released back into the system at consumption. Plus you have to add in all the CO2 produced during processing and delivery of animal products. It all adds up.

Huh? It's a full circle. All the CO2 released comes from the grass, and the same amount of grass grows at the pasture the next year. It's a full cycle. Even if CO2 passes from grass to cow to human, ultimately it completely recaptured. Processing and delivery do use fossil fuels, but by no means would that portion be the largest contributer to green house gas emissions in the world, and by no means unique to meat. Farming, processing and delivery of vegetables also uses fossil fuels.


I seem to remember reading an article about cattle producing an ungodly amount of ammonia. Ammonia contributes to acid rain and global warming doesn't it?

This is an honest question, not flame bait. Any ideas?


Dont forget methane.

 

DaveSimmons

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The Penn & Teller episode on PETA showed quite well that they are hypocrites who support domestic terrorism (literally: firebombing and murder threats), euthanize stray animals, and use animal-produced and -tested drugs like insulin.
 

spittledip

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Lol, Peta just wants a piece of the action. I think they have a point though. If cattle are the biggest emitters of greenhouse gases, then that makes them the biggest GW culprits. If people are really concerned about GW, then they need to lay off the meat. However, is it really true that cattle are the biggest emitters of greenhouse gases?
 

Fern

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Will I get a "carbon reduction credit" for eating my vegitables?

Fern
 

Kwaipie

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If we stop eating cows, what happens to the cows? Should we let them go? That would be udder chaos. We should eat them to protect humanity.
 

DerekP

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Udder chaos :laugh:

No PETA generally kills animals off they think are in bad situations. So I imagine they'd gas all of the cows or something... bovine concentration camps and all that. But don't eat them.
 

Fern

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Since plants use up CO2, wouldn't being vegitarian actually be worse? I mean typically you're killing the plants for vegitables? Not to mention the fuel, fertilizers etc.

IMHO, PITA, oops I mean PETA has zero creditablity.

FErn