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Animal-rights group employees charged in dumping of dead dogs, cats

Kristin Collins, Staff Writer
WINTON - All around this struggling farm town, chicken houses stand in the fields as a testament to the way many here earn their living -- raising, slaughtering and processing chickens.

It is an unlikely locale for an unlikely criminal case. Today, two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, a radical animal-rights group that opposes meat-eating, are on trial for the strangest of charges: killing animals.

PETA is based in Norfolk, Va., but its work has international scope. The group, which raises more than $25 million a year from 1.6 million supporters, opposes any human use of animals, whether for food, fashion or research. In the more than two decades since its founding, it has become a major threat to medical researchers, meatpackers, fur sellers and others.

Now, two of its employees stand accused of tossing garbage bags full of euthanized cats and dogs into a Dumpster behind a Piggly Wiggly in Hertford County, 130 miles northeast of Raleigh.

Adria J. Hinkle and Andrew B. Cook, both of whom work in PETA's Norfolk office, are charged with 21 counts each of animal cruelty, a felony that can carry prison time, along with littering and obtaining property by false pretenses.

It is a strange turn of events for PETA. The group's supporters have often been prosecuted for their radical efforts to protect animals -- breaking into fashion shows to throw blood on fur-wearing models, liberating lab animals, showing gory videos outside the circus -- but PETA has never been accused of hurting animals.

Those who oppose PETA are seizing on the trial. The spectacle also has drawn a gaggle of lawyers, PETA staffers, reporters and curious onlookers to this rural county seat, where the small brick courthouse resembles an aging elementary school.

They sat through two days of jury selection -- longer than for many murder trials -- during which lawyers struggled to find jurors who weren't close friends or business associates of any of the more than 60 witnesses.

Several potential jurors were thrown out after saying they had read about the case, gossiped about it at work or formed strong opinions about PETA. Defense attorneys threw out a handful of farmers and avid hunters but left three people on the jury who work for a Perdue slaughterhouse a few miles from Winton.

Now, jurors will decide whether Hinkle and Cook were, as PETA argues, providing humane deaths to animals that would otherwise have been painfully killed in gas chambers -- or whether, as several local officials say, they were taking animals on the promise of finding them homes and secretly killing them.

A PETA spokeswoman, Kathy Guillermo, said PETA never wanted to get into the business of euthanizing animals. But she said the group couldn't ignore the horrible conditions in animal shelters around Norfolk and in northeastern North Carolina. The group now euthanizes thousands of animals a year.

"Euthanasia is a better alternative to sitting in a stinking pound," Guillermo said.

PETA opponents are drawing attention to this little-known facet of the group's work.

On Monday morning, the Washington D.C.-based Center for Consumer Freedom, an anti-PETA group funded by restaurants and meat producers, drove a mobile billboard truck reading "PETA: As Warm and Cuddly as You Thought?" past the courthouse.

David Martosko, research director for the group, described the case as a gift in his fight to discredit PETA. He plans to monitor the entire trial.

"Most people would not believe, if you told them two years ago, that PETA kills animals. They'd say, 'What? They're the bunny huggers,' " Martosko said.

Martosko and Stephanie Maltz, a lawyer with the Foundation for Bio-Medical Research, a Washington, D.C., group that lobbies for animal testing, paid a visit Monday night to the trash bin where the animals were dumped.

It was dark, and a man with a flashlight was rooting through the garbage, but Maltz was undeterred. She jumped out of the car and took a picture of the grime-stained container for her group's Web site.

Yeah. Better to kill them than to have them suffer for a bit in a pound where they might get adopted. GG guys!

 

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
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Animal-rights group employees charged in dumping of dead dogs, cats

Kristin Collins, Staff Writer
WINTON - All around this struggling farm town, chicken houses stand in the fields as a testament to the way many here earn their living -- raising, slaughtering and processing chickens.

It is an unlikely locale for an unlikely criminal case. Today, two employees of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, a radical animal-rights group that opposes meat-eating, are on trial for the strangest of charges: killing animals.

PETA is based in Norfolk, Va., but its work has international scope. The group, which raises more than $25 million a year from 1.6 million supporters, opposes any human use of animals, whether for food, fashion or research. In the more than two decades since its founding, it has become a major threat to medical researchers, meatpackers, fur sellers and others.

Now, two of its employees stand accused of tossing garbage bags full of euthanized cats and dogs into a Dumpster behind a Piggly Wiggly in Hertford County, 130 miles northeast of Raleigh.

Adria J. Hinkle and Andrew B. Cook, both of whom work in PETA's Norfolk office, are charged with 21 counts each of animal cruelty, a felony that can carry prison time, along with littering and obtaining property by false pretenses.

It is a strange turn of events for PETA. The group's supporters have often been prosecuted for their radical efforts to protect animals -- breaking into fashion shows to throw blood on fur-wearing models, liberating lab animals, showing gory videos outside the circus -- but PETA has never been accused of hurting animals.

Those who oppose PETA are seizing on the trial. The spectacle also has drawn a gaggle of lawyers, PETA staffers, reporters and curious onlookers to this rural county seat, where the small brick courthouse resembles an aging elementary school.

They sat through two days of jury selection -- longer than for many murder trials -- during which lawyers struggled to find jurors who weren't close friends or business associates of any of the more than 60 witnesses.

Several potential jurors were thrown out after saying they had read about the case, gossiped about it at work or formed strong opinions about PETA. Defense attorneys threw out a handful of farmers and avid hunters but left three people on the jury who work for a Perdue slaughterhouse a few miles from Winton.

Now, jurors will decide whether Hinkle and Cook were, as PETA argues, providing humane deaths to animals that would otherwise have been painfully killed in gas chambers -- or whether, as several local officials say, they were taking animals on the promise of finding them homes and secretly killing them.

A PETA spokeswoman, Kathy Guillermo, said PETA never wanted to get into the business of euthanizing animals. But she said the group couldn't ignore the horrible conditions in animal shelters around Norfolk and in northeastern North Carolina. The group now euthanizes thousands of animals a year.

"Euthanasia is a better alternative to sitting in a stinking pound," Guillermo said.

PETA opponents are drawing attention to this little-known facet of the group's work.

On Monday morning, the Washington D.C.-based Center for Consumer Freedom, an anti-PETA group funded by restaurants and meat producers, drove a mobile billboard truck reading "PETA: As Warm and Cuddly as You Thought?" past the courthouse.

David Martosko, research director for the group, described the case as a gift in his fight to discredit PETA. He plans to monitor the entire trial.

"Most people would not believe, if you told them two years ago, that PETA kills animals. They'd say, 'What? They're the bunny huggers,' " Martosko said.

Martosko and Stephanie Maltz, a lawyer with the Foundation for Bio-Medical Research, a Washington, D.C., group that lobbies for animal testing, paid a visit Monday night to the trash bin where the animals were dumped.

It was dark, and a man with a flashlight was rooting through the garbage, but Maltz was undeterred. She jumped out of the car and took a picture of the grime-stained container for her group's Web site.

Yeah. Better to kill them than to have them suffer for a bit in a pound where they might get adopted. GG guys!

Not long til we will be seeing the same kind of story about orphanage homes.

 

[ayabe]

WTF, dogs and cats at the pound aren't killed in 'gas chambers', they are euthanized in the same way that these people supposedly did.

WTF is wrong with these people?

 

[Gibsons]

I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals, but I strongly dislike PETA.

 

[aidanjm]

I think the actions of these two individuals are easily justifiable. PETA is about the ethical treatment of animals. in these circumstances euthanasia can be seen as the most ethical alternative. humanely killing domesticated cats and dogs is fine. there are too many out there, abandoned and feral, anyway. PETA's critics such as the OP have an innaccurate idea of what PETA actually stands for. When PETA's behavior doesn't match their own silly ideas of how PETA "should" be behaving, they think that this is significant. It isn't.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Gibsons
I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals, but I strongly dislike PETA.

I agree exactly. Needless inhumane treatment of animals is, well, inhumane. But the PETA members also contain a number of the extreme animal rights people. Sort of like the Democrats have people who are rabidly anti-any-war and Republicans have the let the poor die crowd. PETA could serve a more useful function if the extremists had less sway over them.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
I think the actions of these two individuals are easily justifiable. PETA is about the ethical treatment of animals. in these circumstances euthanasia can be seen as the most ethical alternative. humanely killing domesticated cats and dogs is fine. there are too many out there, abandoned and feral, anyway. PETA's critics such as the OP have an innaccurate idea of what PETA actually stand. When PETA's behavior doesn't match their own silly ideas of how PETA "should" be behaving, they think that this is significant. It isn't.

You don't take the law into your own hands. Thats what PETA did.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Gibsons
I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals, but I strongly dislike PETA.

I agree exactly. Needless inhumane treatment of animals is, well, inhumane. But the PETA members also contain a number of the extreme animal rights people. Sort of like the Democrats have people who are rabidly anti-any-war and Republicans have the let the poor die crowd. PETA could serve a more useful function if the extremists had less sway over them.

Now, you're just getting silly.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
I think the actions of these two individuals are easily justifiable. PETA is about the ethical treatment of animals. in these circumstances euthanasia can be seen as the most ethical alternative. humanely killing domesticated cats and dogs is fine. there are too many out there, abandoned and feral, anyway. PETA's critics such as the OP have an innaccurate idea of what PETA actually stand. When PETA's behavior doesn't match their own silly ideas of how PETA "should" be behaving, they think that this is significant. It isn't.

PETA is nothing about the ethical treatment of animals. PETA is about forcing the rest of us to accept their own views. That's why they attack people who wear fur, or demonstrate outside KFC's when KFC doesn't actually raise chickens, or tell children that their sport fishing daddies are murderers, etc. This a difference, however, that I do not expect you to understand.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
I think the actions of these two individuals are easily justifiable. PETA is about the ethical treatment of animals. in these circumstances euthanasia can be seen as the most ethical alternative. humanely killing domesticated cats and dogs is fine. there are too many out there, abandoned and feral, anyway. PETA's critics such as the OP have an innaccurate idea of what PETA actually stand. When PETA's behavior doesn't match their own silly ideas of how PETA "should" be behaving, they think that this is significant. It isn't.

I think you are missing the point, I do not believe that animals that have to be put down in shelters are killed via gas chambers. They have vets come in an give them a lethal injection, same as what these PETA people supposedly did. This is what they are basing their defense on, puppy gas chambers.

My girlfriend is a vet and I will talk to her about this tonight when I get home, I am 99.9% sure there are no puppy gas chambers.

 

[Aimster]

any information on this from a reliable source?

 

[tw1164]

Originally posted by: Aimster
any information on this from a reliable source?

??? Its the local paper

 

[Aimster]

oh I thought it was an online news site.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Gibsons
I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals, but I strongly dislike PETA.

I agree exactly. Needless inhumane treatment of animals is, well, inhumane. But the PETA members also contain a number of the extreme animal rights people. Sort of like the Democrats have people who are rabidly anti-any-war and Republicans have the let the poor die crowd. PETA could serve a more useful function if the extremists had less sway over them.

Now, you're just getting silly.

Have you READ the posts in this forum?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Gibsons
I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals, but I strongly dislike PETA.

I agree exactly. Needless inhumane treatment of animals is, well, inhumane. But the PETA members also contain a number of the extreme animal rights people. Sort of like the Democrats have people who are rabidly anti-any-war and Republicans have the let the poor die crowd. PETA could serve a more useful function if the extremists had less sway over them.

Now, you're just getting silly.

Have you READ the posts in this forum?

I have, and they're usually silly. Most of them revolve around the "my way or the highway" fallacy, i.e. if you're not with me, you're with the terrorists, if you disagree with me, it's because you're evil, or if you don't support precisely my plan of wealth redistribution, it's because you want the poor to starve to death, etc. ad naseum delusional bullsh!t.

What are others? Hmm... like, if you don't like Chavez, it's because you're a fascist capitalist imperialist pig. Or if you don't support PETA, it's because you hate hate animals. Or if you don't support welfare, it's because you're a privileged rich asshole. Or if you don't support affirmative action or reparations, it's because you're a racist. Or if you're not an atheist, you must a fundamentalist. Or if you're not a religion hater, then you must hate science. Or if you're not a Democrat, then you must be a Republican. Or if you're not Republican, then you must be an evil commie liberal. Or if you don't support the war on drugs, it's because you're a druggie. Or if you don't approve of nanny state laws and feel that adults should accept some level of personal responsibility for their lives, then it's because you hate children.

I could go on and on and on here. These ARE the posts on this forum. Obviously you haven't noticed.

 

[LegendKiller]

How is this a surprise? PETA and ELF do this crap all of the time.

A few years ago people associated with PETA/ELF raided a University of Minnesota (Twin Cities) campus lab for alzheimers and other degenerative diseases. Many of the animals taken had been raised with these diseases, UofMN were making great strides in treatments and things were progressing well, until these fools struck and stole all of the animals. Weeks later they were found dead on a onramp to the freeway, all of them.

These morons also broke into a UofMN soybean genetics lab which was undertaking a multi-decade study on cross-breeding beans to be more disease and drought resistant. HDD's were crushed, computers destroyed, files taken, all because ELF didn't agree with genetecists modifying nature.

The fools only care about themselves. All should be found, stripped and made to run wild in the middle of the Amazon ala Tom Clancy style.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
How is this a surprise? PETA and ELF do this crap all of the time.

A few years ago people associated with PETA/ELF raided a University of Minnesota (Twin Cities) campus lab for alzheimers and other degenerative diseases. Many of the animals taken had been raised with these diseases, UofMN were making great strides in treatments and things were progressing well, until these fools struck and stole all of the animals. Weeks later they were found dead on a onramp to the freeway, all of them.

These morons also broke into a UofMN soybean genetics lab which was undertaking a multi-decade study on cross-breeding beans to be more disease and drought resistant. HDD's were crushed, computers destroyed, files taken, all because ELF didn't agree with genetecists modifying nature.

The fools only care about themselves. All should be found, stripped and made to run wild in the middle of the Amazon ala Tom Clancy style.

About a decade ago these idiots broke down the fences farms in Wisc to let the cows run free. The majority of the cows didnt even move. The ones who went outside the fence walked back into the fence on their own.

The few who didnt come back on their own were either hit by cars or killed by coyotes. What a humane thing these people did to those milk cows.

Oh btw I think this is in order PETA

 

[ntdz]

I hate PETA. I love animals as much as anyone, but these people are nutjobs. Why is it not OK that we eat meat, but lions and tigers can literally eat animals alive?

 

[BrownTown]

I got my cat from the animal shelter, apparently PETA would rather it be dead than living with me?

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: BrownTown
I got my cat from the animal shelter, apparently PETA would rather it be dead than living with me?

I guess so. Our first one we found outside as a kitten and brought it in. Our second we adopted as a hurricane orphan.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Gibsons
I'm all for the ethical treatment of animals, but I strongly dislike PETA.

I agree exactly. Needless inhumane treatment of animals is, well, inhumane. But the PETA members also contain a number of the extreme animal rights people. Sort of like the Democrats have people who are rabidly anti-any-war and Republicans have the let the poor die crowd. PETA could serve a more useful function if the extremists had less sway over them.

Now, you're just getting silly.

Have you READ the posts in this forum?

I have, and they're usually silly. Most of them revolve around the "my way or the highway" fallacy, i.e. if you're not with me, you're with the terrorists, if you disagree with me, it's because you're evil, or if you don't support precisely my plan of wealth redistribution, it's because you want the poor to starve to death, etc. ad naseum delusional bullsh!t.

What are others? Hmm... like, if you don't like Chavez, it's because you're a fascist capitalist imperialist pig. Or if you don't support PETA, it's because you hate hate animals. Or if you don't support welfare, it's because you're a privileged rich asshole. Or if you don't support affirmative action or reparations, it's because you're a racist. Or if you're not an atheist, you must a fundamentalist. Or if you're not a religion hater, then you must hate science. Or if you're not a Democrat, then you must be a Republican. Or if you're not Republican, then you must be an evil commie liberal. Or if you don't support the war on drugs, it's because you're a druggie. Or if you don't approve of nanny state laws and feel that adults should accept some level of personal responsibility for their lives, then it's because you hate children.

I could go on and on and on here. These ARE the posts on this forum. Obviously you haven't noticed.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: aidanjm
I think the actions of these two individuals are easily justifiable. PETA is about the ethical treatment of animals. in these circumstances euthanasia can be seen as the most ethical alternative. humanely killing domesticated cats and dogs is fine. there are too many out there, abandoned and feral, anyway. PETA's critics such as the OP have an innaccurate idea of what PETA actually stand. When PETA's behavior doesn't match their own silly ideas of how PETA "should" be behaving, they think that this is significant. It isn't.

I think you are missing the point, I do not believe that animals that have to be put down in shelters are killed via gas chambers. They have vets come in an give them a lethal injection, same as what these PETA people supposedly did. This is what they are basing their defense on, puppy gas chambers.

My girlfriend is a vet and I will talk to her about this tonight when I get home, I am 99.9% sure there are no puppy gas chambers.

As suspected, there are no puppy gas chambers.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Now then, where's my People for the Eating of Tasty Animals shirt?