PETA has video showing chicken abuse at KFC supplier

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jman19

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Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Homerboy
"treat animals more humanely"

whats the root word of "humanely"?
Can we apply that to animals?

Ever heard of the "Humane Society"? :roll:

Exactly.

From dictionary.com:

hu·mane     P   Pronunciation Key  (hy-mn)
adj.
1. Characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion: a humane judge.

2. Marked by an emphasis on humanistic values and concerns: a humane education.

Homerboy = asshat
 

MonkeyK

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Originally posted by: MadCowDisease
Originally posted by: purbeast0
that is just horrible, and i hope that those people are dealt with accordingly ... as in them being slammed into walls, ripping their mouth and noses off, then twisting their heads off. that is just ridiculous. we already raise these animals for food purposes only, so when their time is up they should be dealt with humanely and nothing less.

i hope those people burn in hell.

Chickens aren't shocked before slaughtering unlike cattle or pigs, as far as I recall...they're usually dealt with pretty conscious.

My family used to raise our own poultry. We would hang the chickens by their feet untill they went unconcious and then cut the neck to kill them. This also had the advantange of being far less messy (a beheaded chicken flapping around = lots of blood everywhere)

I didn't see the video, but does it actually show somone ripping the beak off? Cause that would be really hard to do.
 

Kenazo

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Originally posted by: Leetman
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Leetman
Fvcking bastards. Stuff like this goes on on EVERY animal typed farm. If you think this is anywhere near the first or only case of this, you are ignorant.

You sir, are an ass who doesn't know what he's talking about.

Are you saying this doesn't happen all the time? And I'm the one who doesn't know what he's talking about? Give me a break.

Yes, I'm saying it does not happen all the time. I lived on a turkey farm for about 15 years, until I was 20. As I stated earlier in this thread, the turkeys were not always carried around on silk pillows however they were never purposely treated with any more force than was ever necessary, and for sure never treated in a purposefully inhumane way.

That being said, I am glad there all groups like PETA out there that do prevent animal abuses from occuring, or at least attempt to decrease the occurences. They just have to get over their specializing in gross over-generalizations. It's as obscene as declaring that every Arab is a terrorist!
 

0roo0roo

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probably isolated incident at worst. u can find a psycho hick if you search hard enough. those animal rights organizations are sleazy. they might make 1000 videos where theres no abuse at all, find an exception to the rule, then scream bloody murder that all farmers are sadists:p just think about it. wasting time and resources torturing birds..possibly lowering their growth rate or simply kiling em isn't good for your bottom line:p

now i'm buying kfc today outa spite. screw u peta. supporters of eco terrorists.
 

DigDug

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Just a few comments:

1. Why does the fact that it "goes on everywhere" have ANY relevance on whether this behavior is bad?

2. Why does the fact that they will end up as food, have any bearing on whether they not be tortured?

3. Why do you people lack even one iota of humanity in you? Even if you may feel that it is inevitable, how can you shrug your shoulder with indifference?
 

poopaskoopa

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Originally posted by: Ranger X
Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: FoBoT
not sure how "chicken" and "abuse" can be used together

its a chicken
LOL, I have to agree. It's like saying someone is torturing a worm.
How about those countries that eat dogs and cats? Can they beat them, snap their necks, and rip their tails off? Why shouldn't it be okay .. I mean, it's food right? :disgust:

Yes they can. Or would suggest that we go bomb the place to free the cats & dogs? :D Oh yeah bring it on flamers!
 

Originally posted by: DigDug
Just a few comments:

1. Why does the fact that it "goes on everywhere" have ANY relevance on whether this behavior is bad?

2. Why does the fact that they will end up as food, have any bearing on whether they not be tortured?

3. Why do you people lack even one iota of humanity in you? Even if you may feel that it is inevitable, how can you shrug your shoulder with indifference?
What am I supposed to do, stop eating chicken?
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: DigDug
Just a few comments:

1. Why does the fact that it "goes on everywhere" have ANY relevance on whether this behavior is bad?

2. Why does the fact that they will end up as food, have any bearing on whether they not be tortured?

3. Why do you people lack even one iota of humanity in you? Even if you may feel that it is inevitable, how can you shrug your shoulder with indifference?
The answer to all 3 is simple. Perhaps your own radicalism blinds you. What happens is that PETA takes an isolated incident and overblows it with propagandist twist for their own political purposes, even so far as purposefully blaming the wrong corporation so as to generate more publicity. I applaud them for taking some action, but their blatant overreaction swings the other way and generates apathy. Because, you see, people need to eat, and they want to eat chicken, and people know that the reason for PETA's overreaction is that they want people to stop eating chicken. As people care more about eating chicken than they do about PETA's cause, they blow PETA off.

If the care of chickens was in the hands of a more reputable (and less radical) organization, people would take the cause of chickens more seriously. But it isn't, so they don't. Obviously some compromise is needed, but IMO that's never going to happen while the PETA radicals are around poisoning their own cause.
Now was that an "iota of humanity" enough for you? :roll:
 

virtuamike

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We kill fish by smacking them in the head with bats / throwing them against the wall. So what's the difference with chickens?

My grandma tried to kill a chicken by beheading and it made a huge mess in the kitchen running around. Paralyzing and then beheading is the cleanest way to kill.
 

Narse

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While what I saw on the video is wrong in every way. I do not think this is any way what happens in the norm. Most would never do this. I will go eat some KFC tomorrow anyway.
 

boyRacer

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i dont support the abuse of animals...

...but i just find it ironic that people are getting their panties in a twist about the chickens being abused but have nothing to say about the chickens being killed for KFC... :confused:

this isnt a flamebait or anything i know this is a sensitive topic for some of you... but its just weird how there's a proper way of killing animals... thats rather contradictory... might as well fight to have them not killed at all.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DigDug
Just a few comments:

1. Why does the fact that it "goes on everywhere" have ANY relevance on whether this behavior is bad?

2. Why does the fact that they will end up as food, have any bearing on whether they not be tortured?

3. Why do you people lack even one iota of humanity in you? Even if you may feel that it is inevitable, how can you shrug your shoulder with indifference?
The answer to all 3 is simple. Perhaps your own radicalism blinds you. What happens is that PETA takes an isolated incident and overblows it with propagandist twist for their own political purposes, even so far as purposefully blaming the wrong corporation so as to generate more publicity. I applaud them for taking some action, but their blatant overreaction swings the other way and generates apathy. Because, you see, people need to eat, and they want to eat chicken, and people know that the reason for PETA's overreaction is that they want people to stop eating chicken. As people care more about eating chicken than they do about PETA's cause, they blow PETA off.

If the care of chickens was in the hands of a more reputable (and less radical) organization, people would take the cause of chickens more seriously. But it isn't, so they don't. Obviously some compromise is needed, but IMO that's never going to happen while the PETA radicals are around poisoning their own cause.
Now was that an "iota of humanity" enough for you? :roll:

PETA is garbage for the most part. I'll give you that.
However, you are making the mistake of classifying their role incorrectly. The reason is because you give the average citizen too much credit. Unfortunately, the loudest and most incendiary is what gets people's attention. We, as mostly educated or presently enrolled to become products of a decent education, can appreciate a good argument whomever shall be the one to say it, but alas, the world is a message board..or atleast another version that runs on COBOL and sparatic machine code.


PETA serves to keep the issue alive.
Does that make them good?No.
Does that make them bad?No.
Are the less of an organization for appealing to the lowest common denominator? Hell Yes.
 

clamum

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How hard is it to kill the birds humanely? Must have some real redneck fvcks working at that plant.